My Trip to The Supermarket just an observation.

deary

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Late on friday evening i went to the supermarket for my weekly shop .
As said It was late so maybe only 15-20 people in the store at most.
Majority were wearing masks & socially distancing 👍 but 5 people decided to flout the guidelines.
The 5 were in 2 groups male & females & were all between the ages of 15 & 25.

I have also observed that we now have 'young people' bleating on TV about feeling victimised that the current Covid spike is being attributed to them.

Do we live in a society that is more concerned with hurting peoples feelings than dealing with issues & saving lives?
 
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Where I work, apart from those who have medical reasons for not wearing masks, or social distancing, the main group not doing either, are young people between 20 and 40, and mainly men. We’re heading for trouble.
 
On another note i see that the BAME community currently has twice as many infections as non bames.
Is this because of a younger bame population?

Mex many of us 'oldies' are wholly disgruntled at that tool cummings taking a drive.
However it must be said that you could be accused of politically motivated deflecting.
Its highly doubtful most of the younger demographic are even aware of him 😛
 
This week I have been shopping a few times... herE is what I have observed.

Tesco

Asian Male & Female (Age 20 - 25) Not Wearing Masks

White British Male, Female & Boy (Age 35-40) (Boy aged 15-17) - Not Wearing Masks

Morrisons

White British Male (Age 72-75) Not Wearing Mask

White British Male & Female (Age 20 - 25) Not Wearing Mask

White British Female (Aged 55-60) Not Wearing Mask

Coop

White British Male (Aged 40-45) Not Wearing Mask

White British Female (Aged 65-70) Wearing Mask - Nose Uncovered

I should add that I didn’t make notes on everyone in Tesco or Morrison’s and there were a number of poorly worn masks (mainly older people) and a few face shields (these are favoured by obese 50 somethings) , which are pointless imho.
 
Back to the op, I think a lot of kids would say that they are complying as much as anyone else, and were being made scapegoats.
Mex perhaps but i would politely suggest this is not true & you are simply too 'PC' to be able to admit it.
 
This week I have been shopping a few times... herE is what I have observed.

Tesco

Asian Male & Female (Age 20 - 25) Not Wearing Masks

White British Male, Female & Boy (Age 35-40) (Boy aged 15-17) - Not Wearing Masks

Morrisons

White British Male (Age 72-75) Not Wearing Mask

White British Male & Female (Age 20 - 25) Not Wearing Mask

White British Female (Aged 55-60) Not Wearing Mask

Coop

White British Male (Aged 40-45) Not Wearing Mask

White British Female (Aged 65-70) Wearing Mask - Nose Uncovered

I should add that I didn’t make notes on everyone in Tesco or Morrison’s and there were a number of poorly worn masks (mainly older people) and a few face shields (these are favoured by obese 50 somethings) , which are pointless imho.
😂 I’m not sure your behaviour is compliant with the Data Protection Act.

Have you got your hi viz Covid Marshall jacket yet? And your Gloch? Mine arrived yesterday. 👍
 
This week I have been shopping a few times... herE is what I have observed.

Tesco

Asian Male & Female (Age 20 - 25) Not Wearing Masks

White British Male, Female & Boy (Age 35-40) (Boy aged 15-17) - Not Wearing Masks

Morrisons

White British Male (Age 72-75) Not Wearing Mask

White British Male & Female (Age 20 - 25) Not Wearing Mask

White British Female (Aged 55-60) Not Wearing Mask

Coop

White British Male (Aged 40-45) Not Wearing Mask

White British Female (Aged 65-70) Wearing Mask - Nose Uncovered

I should add that I didn’t make notes on everyone in Tesco or Morrison’s and there were a number of poorly worn masks (mainly older people) and a few face shields (these are favoured by obese 50 somethings) , which are pointless imho.
Bifster i agree ofcourse yes to an extent you get people from all sections of society not complying.

Just in my experience & from what i have observed it is mainly youger folk.

If i see say a young lad in tracksuit with a mask on i have to say i am really pleased & say fair play son for complying.
Because imho opinion on the whole it is not the norm.
 
Bifster i agree ofcourse yes to an extent you get people from all sections of society not complying.

Just in my experience & from what i have observed it is mainly youger folk.

If i see say a young lad in tracksuit with a mask on i have to say i am really pleased & say fair play son for complying.
Because imho opinion on the whole it is not the norm.
In my experience most young people wear masks. I’ve seen your archetypal chav lads wearing masks, school kids wearing masks and young parents wearing masks. I’ve seen very few without.

It’s mainly middle aged blokes and older people who don’t seem to wear them from my experience... and I’m in shops more or less every day.

The young aren’t to blame for this and tbh, the rise in cases among the young was not as extreme as the press made out. 65% of cases for 50% of population for a short window and let’s face it, they are the ones propping up the economy, working and getting an education...

This week we have seen massive increases in the over 50’s, so I’m not sure you can draw to many serious conclusions off very limited data.
 
In my experience most young people wear masks. I’ve seen your archetypal chav lads wearing masks, school kids wearing masks and young parents wearing masks. I’ve seen very few without.

It’s mainly middle aged blokes and older people who don’t seem to wear them from my experience... and I’m in shops more or less every day.

The young aren’t to blame for this and tbh, the rise in cases among the young was not as extreme as the press made out. 65% of cases for 50% of population for a short window and let’s face it, they are the ones propping up the economy, working and getting an education...

This week we have seen massive increases in the over 50’s, so I’m not sure you can draw to many serious conclusions off very limited data.
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Fair enough bifster we obviously have differing experiences, many 'chavvy' lads i see do not wear masks. Some do fair play .

Yes middle aged know it all types also do not seem to be the most compliant.

Do you wear a mask btw? 🤣😜
 
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Fair enough bifster we obviously have differing experiences, many 'chavvy' lads i see do not wear masks. Some do fair play .

Yes middle aged know it all types also do not seem to be the most compliant.

Do you wear a mask btw? 🤣😜

Yes...I even wear one in Wales where they haven’t been compulsory. I don’t see it as a big deal in shops tbh.
 
The under 30’s have near enough lost a year of their lives, messed around with exams, losing jobs and going to have to pay for this pandemic give them a break FFS.

It now has become the norm to turn them into scapegoats from society and all they are doing is what is us old crusties where like at their age.
EVERYONE has lost nearly a year of their lives, and it has become the norm for one group to blame the other and vica versa.
We live with a blame culture rather than all pulling together to try and resolve this shite.

This won't finish until a vaccine is found, then the arguments will start as to who should have it.

I'm cured of the whole situation and am basically looking after myself and family when at all possible
 
EVERYONE has lost nearly a year of their lives, and it has become the norm for one group to blame the other and vica versa.
We live with a blame culture rather than all pulling together to try and resolve this shite.

This won't finish until a vaccine is found, then the arguments will start as to who should have it.

I'm cured of the whole situation and am basically looking after myself and family when at all possible
Big difference between losing a year in your life as a twenty something than when your middle aged and above every year is the same with the odd holiday/event thrown in.
 
Big difference between losing a year in your life as a twenty something than when your middle aged and above every year is the same with the odd holiday/event thrown in.

So you're saying that only young people have plans to progress whilst elder folk just sit on their harris' vegitating!!

My lads have had a great pandemic (if you wish to phrase it that way)
Youngest (25) was taken on by BAe last month.
Eldest (29) given a job by BFC community trust.
They both realise how important the next few months/years will be but have also tried to carry on as normal as they can.
I plan on retiring soon so will have to take lessons on vegitating 😁

It's very easy to blame covid for everything when ordinarily the vast majority of that generation are looking for an excuse for everything when not presented with it on a silver salver.

I feel very sorry for the students who have been royally fucked over through the ineptitude of the people in charge of that area but even then you had students saying "I was never going to do well in my mocks as I'd put all my efforts into the main exams when they come"

Excuse for everything and blame everyone when not going your way.
 
I blame the Government for the weak and woolly rules.

If you don’t have a mask / refuse to wear a free one, you don’t get in the store. Takes away all the nonsense. Territorial Army or Marshall’s on the door.
Shop online or do the click & collect service most offer, if you’ve got a genuine medical problem. Anything else just gives people the opportunity to flout the rules.
 
The OP makes the assumption that this mythical second wave will be down to half a dozen people not wearing a cloth mask inside a supermarket.
 
I blame the Government for the weak and woolly rules.

If you don’t have a mask / refuse to wear a free one, you don’t get in the store. Takes away all the nonsense. Territorial Army or Marshall’s on the door.
Shop online or do the click & collect service most offer, if you’ve got a genuine medical problem. Anything else just gives people the opportunity to flout the rules.
breaches Human Rights laws. Not all disabilities are visible and it is not a legal requirement to start discussing your personal medical details to complete strangers on supermarkets doors. That is on the governments website aswell if you want proof.
 
breaches Human Rights laws. Not all disabilities are visible and it is not a legal requirement to start discussing your personal medical details to complete strangers on supermarkets doors. That is on the governments website aswell if you want proof.
Not like it’s a permanent thing or they don’t have an alternative. Different rules should apply during a pandemic, otherwise you end up with the shît show we have now. A medical exemption card would have helped.
 
In more positive news, the Oxford vaccine trial has restarted after a pause caused by 1 adverse reaction. Now hurry up...
Just received a text from my medical centre inviting me to test a Covid-19 vaccine in October/November anybody done it before and what's the agenda?
Couldn't take time off work or do they do it around you.?
 
In my experience most young people wear masks. I’ve seen your archetypal chav lads wearing masks, school kids wearing masks and young parents wearing masks. I’ve seen very few without.

It’s mainly middle aged blokes and older people who don’t seem to wear them from my experience... and I’m in shops more or less every day.

The young aren’t to blame for this and tbh, the rise in cases among the young was not as extreme as the press made out. 65% of cases for 50% of population for a short window and let’s face it, they are the ones propping up the economy, working and getting an education...

This week we have seen massive increases in the over 50’s, so I’m not sure you can draw to many serious conclusions off very limited data.

That's the key point to me. It's more dramatic to claim "young hedonists cause Covid by shagging and general drug fuelled bacchanalia" but it's also true that young people are far more likely to be in front line of retail and in other sectors, far more likely to be covering for shielded staff and people who've decided to jack it in and so on.

I've some sympathy for the blame being attached to them because a lot of their exposure is actually generally positive reasons to be out and about.

Similarly, I think it's probably the young who have had some of the most miserable conditions, isolating in shared rented accommodation, cut off from socialising, partners, family where as many older people have had a comfy little mini holiday and gardening. It is thus not surprising that young people want to socialise because ultimately, life is more social when you are young.
 
Just received a text from my medical centre inviting me to test a Covid-19 vaccine in October/November anybody done it before and what's the agenda?
Couldn't take time off work or do they do it around you.?
That’s interesting. Phase 3 of the trial - the last phase before it’s released nationally. Phase 4 is learning during and after the live national rollout.
I know it’s a month late due to issues with the initial dosage being too small. Assume they will fit around your availability and a nurse will give you the vaccine at the medical centre.
 
Gps should issue a letter/pass to those exempt for any reason. No pass no entry to the shop/station/bus without the mask. On the train yesterday I counted 4 in my carriage, a white couple (late 20s- early 30s with no masks, a black man (~60) with mask but not covering nose and a young white man with a mask but under his chin. It is irritating but not worth getting closer to the said individuals to raise the issue- better to keep your distance as best as possible.
 
Gps should issue a letter/pass to those exempt for any reason. No pass no entry to the shop/station/bus without the mask. On the train yesterday I counted 4 in my carriage, a white couple (late 20s- early 30s with no masks, a black man (~60) with mask but not covering nose and a young white man with a mask but under his chin. It is irritating but not worth getting closer to the said individuals to raise the issue- better to keep your distance as best as possible.

I actually agree with Cat on this, no face covering no service. The problem with the exemption cards is you can buy them for £3.99 on eBay complete with lanyard!
 
So we still have zero evidence that masks prevent transmission of virus and you want to make it illegal to access food and transport to your workplace without relevant papers to produce.
 
Back to the op, I think a lot of kids would say that they are complying as much as anyone else, and were being made scapegoats.
We went on the train down to South Yorkshire to watch the game. Train was fairly full of young people going to Sheffield for the last chance big night out before the Rule of 6. They all had face masks on. Either under the chin or hanging from one ear. Not one with it covering the mouth and nose. No semblance of social distancing either.
 
But shop staff don’t have to wear a mask. It’s down to personal choice. Clear and concise?
I get the point on Clarity TBF OL but understand that working an 8-10 hour shift with one on permanently is likely far from pleasant.
As long as they are conscientious & have protective screens at tills imho OK.

Its members of 'Joe Public' refusing to wear one for their limited time in the store that i really take issue with.
 
That wasn’t my point. My son is an Assistant Manager at Lidl and they had not worn masks unless Area Managers have been visiting. No staff have had symptoms so how are people catching it? We need to know there are so many “experts “ and scientists and medical directors at PHE. Surely they must know 🤥
 
So we still have zero evidence that masks prevent transmission of virus and you want to make it illegal to access food and transport to your workplace without relevant papers to produce.
The evidence is here.
 
The evidence is here.
That's not actually evidence that the use of face masks / coverings by the public reduces transmission.
 
None as blind as those who won't see.

I'm just acting as the guardian of fact and fiction... The issue with masks has never really been about their ability to act as a barrier to a lesser or greater degree. It has always been about the problem of unqualified members of the public using them incorrectly and whether the masks themselves pose a contamination risk.

I'll hazard a guess that only a tiny minority (if anyone at all) on this forum have actually complied fully with all the requirements, when using their masks.
 
I'm just acting as the guardian of fact and fiction... The issue with masks has never really been about their ability to act as a barrier to a lesser or greater degree. It has always been about the problem of unqualified members of the public using them incorrectly and whether the masks themselves pose a contamination risk.

I'll hazard a guess that only a tiny minority (if anyone at all) on this forum have actually complied fully with all the requirements, when using their masks.
I’ve always worn one where I am expected to....not difficult is it...unless a)you have a valid reason not to ,which is fine and justifiable, or b) you are just a selfish c....
 
Or maybe they were just a bunch of......fill in whatever you think appropriate.
“Youngsters out for a brief respite from the continual moaning of their elders? The same elders who have snaffled all the wealth in the country and left the kids to pick up the debt? And now want to blame the kids for the shitshower they’ve inherited?”

I have to say, if I was a youngster that’s probably the view I’d have.
 
I’ve always worn one where I am expected to....not difficult is it...unless a)you have a valid reason not to ,which is fine and justifiable, or b) you are just a selfish c....
It's not particularly difficult, no..., though I'm not really sure what that has to do with it.
 
Why not read some of your and others posts and maybe You might understand but then again with you I doubt it.
No, I'd rather you explain how something being fairly easy to use means that the article I was commenting on is evidence that masks are scientifically proven to be effective for preventing the transmission of a virus?
 
“Youngsters out for a brief respite from the continual moaning of their elders? The same elders who have snaffled all the wealth in the country and left the kids to pick up the debt? And now want to blame the kids for the shitshower they’ve inherited?”

I have to say, if I was a youngster that’s probably the view I’d have.
What exactly have they inherited that others haven’t.Every generation grows up with issues ( there were plenty I had to deal with) and will continue to do so.It’s whether we like it or not the world we live in.
 
The evidence is here.
That is NOT evidence. Where are the randomized clinical trials? That article mentions behaviour and public compliance more than it discusses the scientific basis behind masks.

The author tries to downplay the importance of evidence based random clinical trials instead talks about the observational and behavioural research.

But I did pick up on this quote which is probably the only truth in that entire article.

"There have been no clinical trials of coughing into your elbow, social distancing and quarantine, yet these measures are seen as effective and have been widely adopted.’
 
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