New left wing party

Tangerinemoss said:
Dan Hodges is not exactly a reliable commentator on the left

I think the formation of a left of centre party is inevitable, given the rightward lurch of "Labour". I'm sure the right wing media (ie the vast majority of it) will give them a fair hearing!
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He's just commentating on the shambles situation.
 
gjr said:
Overall those figures show that the country is pretty much split 50/50 between right and left. Yet we persist with first past the post elections meaning that half of the country always feel unrepresented.
The time has come to change the voting system and how we govern the country.
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So you'll have to vote Reform then as the two main parties have no intention of bringing PR in.
 
JJpool said:
It was from a credible Times journalist

https://twitter.com/x/status/1940865333570801752

https://twitter.com/x/status/1941049506298007758
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It may well have been but it was still only one tweet. There is nothing in it to understand or explain why Corbyn was hesitant about joining the new party; nothing to explain what his intentions are around consolidating left wing Parliamentary opposition to Labour. Yet, these matters have been aired in other parts of the political media. No, your intention, as always among the right-wing apologists on this board, was simply to enjoy another snearing laugh at the left - regardless of context or validity.
 
poolseasider said:
Not a chance if they promise it in their manifesto.
Will it pass in Parliament not sure.
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Time will tell, but if they are significantly the biggest party using first past the post i imagine there will be a lot of bluff and bluster and it won't be a priority.
We'll find out soon enough because barring a disaster for them they will be the next government.
 
gjr said:
Time will tell, but if they are significantly the biggest party using first past the post i imagine there will be a lot of bluff and bluster and it won't be a priority.
We'll find out soon enough because barring a disaster for them they will be the next government.
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Let's see the colour of your money.
 
While back in the land of facts and actual evidence......This happened
www.thenorthernecho.co.uk

Lib Dems win County Durham by-election after Reform councillor resigned nine days in

The Liberal Democrats have won a seat from Reform UK on Durham County Council.
www.thenorthernecho.co.uk www.thenorthernecho.co.uk
After winning a council seat on the 1st May for Reform, and then finding out you cant be on the Council because you already work at the Council
They had ANOTHER vote on the July 3rd

1st....Lib Dems......824
2nd...Labour......800
3rd....Reform....747

So after just 8 weeks........With real votes, no polls.....actual people voting.......Reform came 3rd
But I'm sure there's a X post that will say it was 'Fake News'
 
B_Side_The_C_Side said:
While back in the land of facts and actual evidence......This happened
www.thenorthernecho.co.uk

Lib Dems win County Durham by-election after Reform councillor resigned nine days in

The Liberal Democrats have won a seat from Reform UK on Durham County Council.
www.thenorthernecho.co.uk www.thenorthernecho.co.uk
After winning a council seat on the 1st May for Reform, and then finding out you cant be on the Council because you already work at the Council
They had ANOTHER vote on the July 3rd

1st....Lib Dems......824
2nd...Labour......800
3rd....Reform....747

So after just 8 weeks........With real votes, no polls.....actual people voting.......Reform came 3rd
But I'm sure there's a X post that will say it was 'Fake News'
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How can you be a council employee and not realise that means you can't stand for election? Great vetting procedure by Reform Central Office as well.
 
Phil_bfc neuf said:
So I reckon it's like this

Far left - Corbyn etc
Left - Greens, Lib
Centre - Conservatives, Labour and Reform
Far right - No such thing
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"Far right - no such thing"

Tell that to The BNP, The National Front, The British Hand, Homeland, The EDL, Patriotic Alternative, British Democrats, Britain First, National Action, For Britain Movement and many other far-right splinter groups down the years. Actually one of the main reasons - if not the main one - for the far right's inability to gain Parliamentary representation has been Britain's FPTP voting system, which works against the influence of small parties.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
"Far right - no such thing"

Tell that to The BNP, The National Front, The British Hand, Homeland, The EDL, Patriotic Alternative, British Democrats, Britain First, National Action, For Britain Movement and many other far-right splinter groups down the years. Actually one of the main reasons - if not the main one - for the far right's inability to gain Parliamentary representation has been Britain's FPTP voting system, which works against the influence of small parties.
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You forgot Reform 😉
 
1966_and_all_that said:
"Far right - no such thing"

Tell that to The BNP, The National Front, The British Hand, Homeland, The EDL, Patriotic Alternative, British Democrats, Britain First, National Action, For Britain Movement and many other far-right splinter groups down the years. Actually one of the main reasons - if not the main one - for the far right's inability to gain Parliamentary representation has been Britain's FPTP voting system, which works against the influence of small parties.
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How many of those parties can we vote for at the next General election or ever been able to vote for not many?

It's a bit like throwing Antfia back at you utter bobbins.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
"Far right - no such thing"

Tell that to The BNP, The National Front, The British Hand, Homeland, The EDL, Patriotic Alternative, British Democrats, Britain First, National Action, For Britain Movement and many other far-right splinter groups down the years. Actually one of the main reasons - if not the main one - for the far right's inability to gain Parliamentary representation has been Britain's FPTP voting system, which works against the influence of small parties.
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We are talking about political parties not historic splinter groups

You have probably just wasted about 30 mins of you life doing a Google search for that

Do keep up
 
Well it's only just, the right have 57 varieties of loons so it's only fair the left get some too. One day everyone will have led a political party for 15 minutes.
 
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