PMQs, 09.07.25

1966_and_all_that

1966_and_all_that

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I thought Keir Starmer did well today. In fact, all of the non-Tories who were called (bar Farage), spoke well. David Davis made an important point albeit Starmer thought his style was inappropriate.
 
Farage could barely get his question out over all the jeering. Was funny listening to Sarah Pochlin try and defend him.

I think Starmer could have been much firmer in response to his question though.

Interesting though that Farage voted against the Borders bill. I wonder why 🤔 perhaps @JJpool could explain that one….
 
EdgeleyTangerine said:
Farage could barely get his question out over all the jeering. Was funny listening to Sarah Pochlin try and defend him.

I think Starmer could have been much firmer in response to his question though.

Interesting though that Farage voted against the Borders bill. I wonder why perhaps @JJpool could explain that one….
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I dunno. Disdain is all that Farage deserves as a response to his questions.
 
EdgeleyTangerine said:
Farage could barely get his question out over all the jeering. Was funny listening to Sarah Pochlin try and defend him.

I think Starmer could have been much firmer in response to his question though.

Interesting though that Farage voted against the Borders bill. I wonder why perhaps @JJpool could explain that one….
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Before I waste my time searching for you, why not use the Internet and look yourself.

It's not hard and they'll be a reason. Probably because it contained some nonsense or something that won't work, but find out.
 
JJpool said:
Before I waste my time searching for you, why not use the Internet and look yourself.

It's not hard and they'll be a reason. Probably because it contained some nonsense or something that won't work, but find out.
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So what you’re really saying is, you don’t know 😬. Somewhat surprising given you think the sun shines out of Farage’s arse.
 
EdgeleyTangerine said:
So what you’re really saying is, you don’t know . Somewhat surprising given you think the sun shines out of Farage’s arse.
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"Nigel Farage voted against Labour's Border, Security, Asylum and Immigration Bill because he deemed it "useless" and insufficiently robust, arguing it failed to address critical issues like deporting illegal migrants, withdrawing from the European Convention on Human Rights, or effectively stopping small boat crossings, which he views as a national security emergency."


Took me 1 minute to search. 🙄
 
JJpool said:
"Nigel Farage voted against Labour's Border, Security, Asylum and Immigration Bill because he deemed it "useless" and insufficiently robust, arguing it failed to address critical issues like deporting illegal migrants, withdrawing from the European Convention on Human Rights, or effectively stopping small boat crossings, which he views as a national security emergency."


Took me 1 minute to search.
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The reality is he doesn’t want to stop illegal immigration because it’s his best tool for fooling his deluded voters.
 
EdgeleyTangerine said:
The reality is he doesn’t want to stop illegal immigration because it’s his best tool for fooling his deluded voters.
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You wanted the answer so I got it for you.

He's right though in that it unless you do what NF suggested nothing will change.

So you wanted to get me to the thread to have a go at reform via me. Nice.
 
JJpool said:
You wanted the answer so I got it for you.

He's right though in that it unless you do what NF suggested nothing will change.

So you wanted to get me to the thread to have a go at reform via me. Nice.
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It's easy enough to have a go at Farage without needing to go via you JJ. As you say, you're just a voter and a mouthpiece on this Board. If you give it out, you got to take it.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
It's easy enough to have a go at Farage without needing to go via you JJ. As you say, you're just a voter and a mouthpiece on this Board. If you give it out, you got to take it.
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My views represent many normal people's, as this board was massively skewed towards and unrealistic LW bias that doesn't represent the country.

The fact is anyone could have found out the info I spent 1 minute to get. But they're probably just wanting to manufacture a row.
 
JJpool said:
My views represent many normal people's, as this board was massively skewed towards and unrealistic LW bias that doesn't represent the country.

The fact is anyone could have found out the info I spent 1 minute to get. But they're probably just wanting to manufacture a row.
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Strange isn't it. I see a huge right wing bias on here, countered by posters who are able to see the truth.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
It's easy enough to have a go at Farage without needing to go via you JJ. As you say, you're just a voter and a mouthpiece on this Board. If you give it out, you got to take it.
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You need to be clear here, does NF mean National Front or Nigel Farage? There is no need to leave the ECHR and also no point. Make it about national security and hey presto! ECHR cannot be applied. As to 'remigration' call it what it is a pogrom and that by any definition is a far right policy. As to jackboots and bounty hunters kicking down doors and swarming the streets where does that end? Once they run out of foreign targets they'll seek new ones so no thanks.

There are perfectly sensible policies we could enact with political will. Ban the burka/nihab, halal meat, first cousin marriage and prohibit the building of any more mosques. Ban faith schools, all of them, if necessary ban all private schools. I hate banning things but we must look to the future and fix things before they become existential, if that happens all bets are off as to what happens next.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
Strange isn't it. I see a huge right wing bias on here, countered by posters who are able to see the truth.
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what an absolute load of tosh.

The regular posters on here, You, Mex, Wizaard, Edgeley, Mac, Moss, EBSN, Costero, Bill and then add in Kurious, Shandypants, EPM46, Foolweary, Voyeur, Toastrack and there's plenty plenty more. Massively outnumber the right.

Fact you watch PMQ's makes me laugh. Political obsessives.
 
JJpool said:
My views represent many normal people's, as this board was massively skewed towards and unrealistic LW bias that doesn't represent the country.

The fact is anyone could have found out the info I spent 1 minute to get. But they're probably just wanting to manufacture a row.
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Massively skewed or representative of the overall population?
 
Robot Starmer can’t possibly believe he has had a good first year esp with the flood of young men in boats now living it up in hotels. Massive increase since he came to power.
 
JJpool said:
My views represent many normal people's, as this board was massively skewed towards and unrealistic LW bias that doesn't represent the country.

The fact is anyone could have found out the info I spent 1 minute to get. But they're probably just wanting to manufacture a row.
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No one was manufacturing a row. Was just asking a genuine question about Farage and thought the resident Farage expert/worshipper would be best placed to answer 😂
 
It's actually quite funny hearing the booing and bullying of Farage every time he tries to speak

All these Labour MPs thinking they are big time, using their numbers to shout over a fellow MP

How thick are they, do they not realise they are just turning the public against them (you know the same public who voted them in)

Then we have the Labour supportimg posters on here lapping it up like a pack of cowardly wolves

Thick as mince
 
Phil_bfc neuf said:
It's actually quite funny hearing the booing and bullying of Farage every time he tries to speak

All these Labour MPs thinking they are big time, using their numbers to shout over a fellow MP

How thick are they, do they not realise they are just turning the public against them (you know the same public who voted them in)

Then we have the Labour supportimg posters on here lapping it up like a pack of cowardly wolves

Thick as mince
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It was Tories heckling.

Thick as mince
 
no9 said:
The sooner Labour are gone the better.

Treacherous mob.
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Just you wait. If the idiots who voted for Brexit manage to get Reform in at the next GE we will really be fucked.

NHS gone.
Workers rights gone.
Tax breaks for the wealthy paid for by everyone else.
Russian influence on national security
Public money siphoned off into private pockets
A political “party” that’s actually a company owned by two individuals - good bye democracy!

But hey, at least illegal immigration will stop. Oh hang on…Farage doesn’t actually have a plan to stop that….

All of the issues we now face have been engineered by the likes of Farage and other individuals who benefited financially from the catastrophe that was Brexit. Farage doesn’t not care about this country (he doesn’t even pay tax here). Reform is just a vehicle to fool people so he can line his pockets.
 
bill40 said:
You need to be clear here, does NF mean National Front or Nigel Farage? There is no need to leave the ECHR and also no point. Make it about national security and hey presto! ECHR cannot be applied. As to 'remigration' call it what it is a pogrom and that by any definition is a far right policy. As to jackboots and bounty hunters kicking down doors and swarming the streets where does that end? Once they run out of foreign targets they'll seek new ones so no thanks.

There are perfectly sensible policies we could enact with political will. Ban the burka/nihab, halal meat, first cousin marriage and prohibit the building of any more mosques. Ban faith schools, all of them, if necessary ban all private schools. I hate banning things but we must look to the future and fix things before they become existential, if that happens all bets are off as to what happens next.
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Just a small wrap on the knuckles. I didn't use NF.
 
I consider myself "normal" and don't think many on here represent my views. I would never vote for Farage in a million years but he should have been allowed to have been heard instead of being heckled by gobshites from all sides of the House.
 
Threepeaksphil said:
Robot Starmer can’t possibly believe he has had a good first year esp with the flood of young men in boats now living it up in hotels. Massive increase since he came to power.
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Asylum seekers in hotels September 2023 under the Tories. 56,000

Asylum seekers in hotels September 2024 under Labour. 35,000, and a plan in place to clear the backlog that caused the issue.

Did you fail maths O level?
 
Old_Laytonian said:
I consider myself "normal" and don't think many on here represent my views. I would never vote for Farage in a million years but he should have been allowed to have been heard instead of being heckled by gobshites from all sides of the House.
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As I said in my post at #10, the heckling we could here on the telly would only have been from the MPs sat around Farage. The microphones are technically managed so as to here the member who has stood to speak. The Labour members were on the other side of the House.
 
EdgeleyTangerine said:
Just you wait. If the idiots who voted for Brexit manage to get Reform in at the next GE we will really be fucked.

NHS gone.
Workers rights gone.
Tax breaks for the wealthy paid for by everyone else.
Russian influence on national security
Public money siphoned off into private pockets
A political “party” that’s actually a company owned by two individuals - good bye democracy!

But hey, at least illegal immigration will stop. Oh hang on…Farage doesn’t actually have a plan to stop that….

All of the issues we now face have been engineered by the likes of Farage and other individuals who benefited financially from the catastrophe that was Brexit. Farage doesn’t not care about this country (he doesn’t even pay tax here). Reform is just a vehicle to fool people so he can line his pockets.
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Errr don't forget it was the millions of Labour voters, voting Brexit that got the vote through

Blood on hands ✋️
 
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Old_Laytonian said:
I consider myself "normal" and don't think many on here represent my views. I would never vote for Farage in a million years but he should have been allowed to have been heard instead of being heckled by gobshites from all sides of the House.
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Yep good balanced post easy to boo someone when he only had a handful of Reform MPs by his side

Shamefull behaviour from the Commons

Cowardly behaviour

Never liked bullying and that's what it was, bunch of cnuts
 
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Phil_bfc neuf said:
Yep good balanced post easy to boo someone when he only had a handful of Reform MPs by his side

Shamefull behaviour from the Commons

Cowardly behaviour

Never liked bullying and that's what it was, bunch of cnuts
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First time seeing PMQ's?

It's a ** zoo in there always has been.
 
Phil_bfc neuf said:
Errr don't forget it was the millions of Labour voters, voting Brexit that got the vote through

Blood on hands ️
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They don't get it do they?

Blackpool a Labour town(boundary change messes it up some times) but the majority of my lifetime a Lab council voted to leave.

Marsden lost his seat because he constantly voted against Brexit and didn't stand for what his consistency wanted.

Here's the catch these new Reform voters aren't raving right wing loons but those who normally vote Labour.
 
poolseasider said:
They don't get it do they?

Blackpool a Labour town(boundary change messes it up some times) but the majority of my lifetime a Lab council voted to leave.

Marsden lost his seat because he constantly voted against Brexit and didn't stand for what his consistency wanted.

Here's the catch these new Reform voters aren't raving right wing loons but those who normally vote Labour.
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Labour voting people in the north and midlands have been fairly consistent, it is the Labour party that changed to be too representative of the M25 area of the south east of England.
Farage will take advantage of this but he couldn't give a shit about the working class people of Wales, Scotland and the north of England just needs their votes to win the next election, unfortunately he will probably get them.
Sad truth is there isn't a Political Party in the country worth voting for right now which makes it even easier for Farage.
 
Phil_bfc neuf said:
It's actually quite funny hearing the booing and bullying of Farage every time he tries to speak

All these Labour MPs thinking they are big time, using their numbers to shout over a fellow MP

How thick are they, do they not realise they are just turning the public against them (you know the same public who voted them in)

Then we have the Labour supportimg posters on here lapping it up like a pack of cowardly wolves

Thick as mince
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1942967577208098993
 
poolseasider said:
They don't get it do they?

Blackpool a Labour town(boundary change messes it up some times) but the majority of my lifetime a Lab council voted to leave.

Marsden lost his seat because he constantly voted against Brexit and didn't stand for what his consistency wanted.

Here's the catch these new Reform voters aren't raving right wing loons but those who normally vote Labour.
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There are those, also ex tories, people who haven't voted before or for ages and a younger group the tories could never capture, the bro vote it's called.

Their MPs do tons of YouTubers videos and podcasts and that's where you win that vote.
 
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