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Have you noticed in that article that Andrew's representatives have gone from outright denial to 'where's the prrof'. It could be really interesting if other photos or a video tutned up
Its going to be monumental if and when all the facts come to light.
It will cripple the royal family in my opinion if he is found guilty on any level.
Not sure their reputation could ever survive such scandal in this day and age.
 
And his advisors thought the Maitlis interview went well! Despicable if true and if it is I would speculate those three thought they were as Teflon as it came and would be safe as there was way too much at stake and everyone got paid enough to buy and keep their silence I reckon.

chickens always come home to roost as long as they are living
 
There's also stuff in there about Clintons being on Epstein island with young girls. Get it to court and get it broadcast on TV. Be fantastic watching the elite scumbags squirming and being destroyed👍🏻
 
Hanks 😱 Seriously??? 😢
No, not seriously at all, that's what makes it all so utterly ridiculous!
It is literally nonsense that has been created based on absolutely nothing, and then cretins on the web have shared it and shared it to the extent it has now become true.
The power of social media 🙄
 
The thing is they weren't 'young girls'. They were prostitutes who knew what they were doing and would have been highly paid for their 'services' and, as far as I know, prostitution isn't illegal.



Throws dynamite in room, closes door and waits.
 
The thing is they weren't 'young girls'. They were prostitutes who knew what they were doing and would have been highly paid for their 'services' and, as far as I know, prostitution isn't illegal.



Throws dynamite in room, closes door and waits.
Wow
 
The thing is they weren't 'young girls'. They were prostitutes who knew what they were doing and would have been highly paid for their 'services' and, as far as I know, prostitution isn't illegal.

Throws dynamite in room, closes door and waits.

Gosh. Were you there? How do you know this?

You probably need to tell the police ASAP. This kind of information is vital when someone points the finger at a potential pedophile.

Seriously dude report what you know.

Really weird that someone from AVFTT knows all about this.
 
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I'm entitled to my opinion just as you are.
I certainly haven't heard anything about 'under age girls' held against their will kicking and screaming. Have you?


Besides, were you there?
 
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I just don’t get it, I’m sure Andrew did have sex with this girl, but was she forced? How? How did Epstein force her to have sex with multiple men?
 
I'm entitled to my opinion just as you are.
I certainly haven't heard anything about 'under age girls' held against their will kicking and screaming. Have you?


Besides, were you there?
I just don’t get it, I’m sure Andrew did have sex with this girl, but was she forced? How? How did Epstein force her to have sex with multiple men?
In this country, the laws on Child Sexual Exploitation apply to any youngster 18 years old or younger. I’m sure there are similar laws in America.
Girls (and boys) don’t have to be pinned down and forcibly raped, or kept prisoner in chains to be regarded as victims. They are, over a period of time, convinced by expert manipulators, that the rewards (money/drugs/alcohol/affection etc.) they are receiving are worth giving their bodies away for.
We call it ‘grooming’ over here. It’s not a word that only refers to Asian men.
Whilst the age of consent laws in the USA are more complex than ours, I’m pretty sure the FBI have done their homework on the subject.
 
Hanks 😱 Seriously??? 😢
Lala, believe it or not, conspiracy theorists have been naming Hanks for a long time. They claim he is one of many,many Hollywood stars to be involved in not only a world-wide network of paedophilia, but also the trade in children’s blood, which apparently keeps them young by drinking it.
They claim he has been assassinated and his wife is being kept imprisoned at a secret location. Film and photos of them recently in Greece actually are of clones/lookalikes/ CGI (depending on which nut job you subscribe to on YouTube).
There are some very crazy people out there.
 
The thing is they weren't 'young girls'. They were prostitutes who knew what they were doing and would have been highly paid for their 'services' and, as far as I know, prostitution isn't illegal.



Throws dynamite in room, closes door and waits.

Siding with a nonce: not a great look.
 
From the very start of all this I think there were 3 things that were quite relevant to Andrew's 'guilt or innocence'.
Firstly, he said he had never met the teenager, and then a photo emerged of him looking relaxed with her and Maxwell in one of Maxwell's properties. Allegedly, the FBI have assessed that photo as genuine. He also said he had never had any other sexual relationships with young females.
Secondly, it is known Andrew made multiple visits to Epstein in his various properties including New York, the Virgin Islands and London. A subsequent photo emerged of him walking and talking with Epstein just days after the latter had been released from prison on earlier charges, and whose sentence was shorter due to a plea bargain. Do you really believe that he visited Epstein in his New York property for a few days just to 'break off their relstionship'? Another photo emerged from the same vist showing Andrew letting young females out of Epstein's property. Perhaps he had to break off his relationship with them as well?!!!
Thirdly, knowing that his Royal junket life was under threat and he was under pressure from both the Family and the media on the reputational issues, he did the BBC interview with Emily Maitlis. More holes in that than in a string vest. Not only were his answers incredulous the manner of them indicated a lack of truth, a desperate attempt to defend himself and complete disregard for, and empathy with or even mention of the victims. If I had been on a jury, I wouldn't have believed him.
Sadly, whilst more information is likely to emerge I dont believe Andrew will ever give evidence in a court. It is, and will remain, a massive stain on both Andrew and the Royal Family.
 
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He’s an embarrassment to the Crown and should be forced to go to the US to answer their questions

If he doesn’t they are goosed - Queen included
Disagree, they'll do what they want. That is what the royals do, I think they are similar to oyston in many respects. Devoid from reality and think they are above the law and can tell the little people what to do. The difference being the oystons were dillussional, the royal family and establishment does have real power.

It will blow over and there will still be 10s of thousands at the next event waving their little union jack and bowing in deference to them like they are a higher being.
 
Disagree, they'll do what they want. That is what the royals do, I think they are similar to oyston in many respects. Devoid from reality and think they are above the law and can tell the little people what to do. The difference being the oystons were dillussional, the royal family and establishment does have real power.

It will blow over and there will still be 10s of thousands at the next event waving their little union jack and bowing in deference to them like they are a higher being.
Absolute bollux. Absolutely nothing wrong with celebrating a Royal occasion and nobody is bowing in deference to anybody.
Some people are royalists and are proud to be British.
 
Did I say it did? Clearly you are incapable of reading properly what I said. Suggest you give it another go.

“Some people are royalists and are proud to be British.”

I haven’t the time nor inclination to spend the day rowing with you.
Enjoy the rest of the weekend.🤘✌️
 
Absolute bollux. Absolutely nothing wrong with celebrating a Royal occasion and nobody is bowing in deference to anybody.
Some people are royalists and are proud to be British.

You are getting worse.
 
Why does a thread on here always end up being about 20's instead of the actual topic once he has posted? It just spoils a decent thread.

as for prince Andrew, he will be protected as much as he can be, but hopefully the truth will out. Some of the excuses on here for him are unbelievable!
 
Why does a thread on here always end up being about 20's instead of the actual topic once he has posted? It just spoils a decent thread.

as for prince Andrew, he will be protected as much as he can be, but hopefully the truth will out. Some of the excuses on here for him are unbelievable!
Hertford. Knowing your previous career I’m sure you have insights that most of us don’t.

From my perspective I’m betwixt and between.

I really don’t like PA and think he’s a privileged and entitled tosser. And I don’t doubt he’s taken full advantage of the opportunities presented to him. But that isn’t the same as saying he’s committed any criminal offences and, as far as I’m aware, he hasn’t been charged with anything. That said, it seems pretty clear that US Prosecutors are trying to build a case against him. And that he’s doing his best not to help them. But so far, it’s all allegations and no charges.

As for the complainants, this is where I’ve got to acknowledge prejudices I may not even be aware I have, and declare I may not be the best judge.

In my mind grooming and sex trafficking conjure up sordid images of grubby terraced houses and trailers attached to the backs of lorries. They don’t conjure up pictures of flights in 1st class and champagne. And I suppose that’s why some people are sceptical when victims pop up 20 years after the event and claim they were exploited. Especially when the suspicion is they may be looking for a big pay day. From a criminal law angle it depend on the age of the victim. The lady associated with PA was 17 and therefore above the age of consent in the UK. Not an attractive picture I agree, but not a criminal offence?

That said I know (as does every BFC supporter) sexual predators come in all shapes and sizes.

In short, I’m befuddled (and not for the first time!).

So insights much appreciated.
 
I'm a Royalist and proud to be so but that's a general thing.

Think most of them do a good job but undoubtedly Andrew has abused his privileges for a great number of things over the years.
Never hear much of Edward these days but Charles despite his eccentricities, and Anne do a good job with the minimum of fuss. And William more than seems aware of Royalty in the 21ST century and takes a more modern attitude of life and associating with the masses.
 
Why does a thread on here always end up being about 20's instead of the actual topic once he has posted? It just spoils a decent thread.

Because he’s an argumentative gobshite.😉
Pulled me up on this thread for not reading his post properly.When I clearly had, DH.
 
I'm entitled to my opinion just as you are.
I certainly haven't heard anything about 'under age girls' held against their will kicking and screaming. Have you?


Besides, were you there?
Consensual under age girls are still under age girls. Very strange viewpoint, IMO

18 is the federal age of consent in the States.
 
Care to elaborate on what is getting worse and why I shouldn't re-act to a post that is doing no more than mocking people?

If you are going to take exception to that particular remark, you are going to be permanently angry. Oh....

I was actually referring to your regular habit of coming in and starting a fight about something that was not actually under discussion. It's a good job you weren't around for the Cuban missile crisis, you'd have started Armageddon over the queue in the post office.
 
Absolute bollux.Some people are proud to be British, that doesn’t make me a royalist.
“Some people are royalists and are proud to be British.”

I haven’t the time nor inclination to spend the day rowing with you.
Enjoy the rest of the weekend.🤘
All I said was that some people are royalists and proud to be British. That's not bollux because I am one of those people.

I perfectly well accept that you can be proud to be British but not a royalist. Don't misinterpret what I said for what you think I said.
 
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