Rosenior appointed interim Derby Manager

Hardly surprising considering current shenanigans at the Derby, i don't suppose Derby have the option of Plan B until the ownership saga is resolved
 
So the theory is he would have rather taken over an interim job in League One in a very precarious situation open to the whims of any new owner/administrators than a Championship club with stable supportive owners and huge plans afoot?

Aye, ok.

I don't think he was ever offered the job here, clueless shills like Nixon went full steam and then backtracked with rumours to cover their own faulty crystal ball bollocks, got to keep those Patreon subscribers coming in.
 
Can we put this Rosenior obsession to bed!! He was not offered the job here as he was deemed not to be what we wanted/was not good enough - despite so called in the know posters and journalists stating he got the job. Are we going to have a thread every time Rosenior picks his nose, wipes his arse or ties up his laces? We have moved on so let’s leave him to it for gods sake!
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
So the theory is he would have rather taken over an interim job in League One in a very precarious situation open to the whims of any new owner/administrators than a Championship club with stable supportive owners and huge plans afoot?

Aye, ok.

I don't think he was ever offered the job here, clueless shills like Nixon went full steam and then backtracked with rumours to cover their own faulty crystal ball bollocks, got to keep those Patreon subscribers coming in.
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Agree 100%
 
Rooney said ‘this club needs a manager to take it forward that hasn’t been affected by the last 12/18 months’ wouldn’t appear to be thinking Rosenior
 
He’s going to have a tricky task. What have they got left, about 5 senior players? Will be using the youth team & loans I expect. Tough gig. New owner will likely go for someone with experience.
 
PNENIL said:
An owner of any club is never going to admit offering the job to someone else if it's turned down so you will never know. It's the way it works.
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We know that the claims that LR was offered the job were ridiculously premature, we know that MA had a third interview on Wednesday before the appointment, as far as we know he was the only one who made it to that stage, if LR was offered the job he would've had to turn it down on the day of the second interview, which seems implausible, the timeline of known facts strongly suggests that MA was first choice and LR was never offerd the job.

Everything else is fake ITKers trying to convince you they're not really making it up.
 
Well I was certainly convinced by the various ITK tweeters that he was on his way to Blackpool. Maybe a bit of wishful thinking was involved on my part, but in truth I should have known the moment that BISONS confirmed he was coming that it was a 100% cert not to happen.

Unlike others I can definitely see the attraction of the Derby job when compared with Blackpool for him.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Well I was certainly convinced by the various ITK tweeters that he was on his way to Blackpool. Maybe a bit of wishful thinking was involved on my part, but in truth I should have known the moment that BISONS confirmed he was coming that it was a 100% cert not to happen.

Unlike others I can definitely see the attraction of the Derby job when compared with Blackpool for him.
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This is a pretty good line to follow. Important for all Blackpool fans.
 
Lost Seasider said:
We know that the claims that LR was offered the job were ridiculously premature, we know that MA had a third interview on Wednesday before the appointment, as far as we know he was the only one who made it to that stage, if LR was offered the job he would've had to turn it down on the day of the second interview, which seems implausible, the timeline of known facts strongly suggests that MA was first choice and LR was never offerd the job.

Everything else is fake ITKers trying to convince you they're not really making it up.
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All I know is that the Friday afternoon before, Liam Rosenoirs appointment seemed imminent , there was a lull over the weekend before an expected announcement on Monday. The start of that week was when things changed, hence a third interview for Appleton. Whatever the timeframe, I can't believe that they would choose Appleton over Rosenoir even before you factor in the swell of fans opinion. It just doesn't wash with me. I also agree with BFCx3 that the attraction of the Derby job is real and understandable.
in saying all that Michael Appleton might well turn out to be the better choice and better value . Sometimes things work out that way. Liam Rosenoir is no dud though and I'm not going to change my opinion on him just because he's not here like some have. Same with Critchley.
 
PNENIL said:
All I know is that the Friday afternoon before, Liam Rosenoirs appointment seemed imminent , there was a lull over the weekend before an expected announcement on Monday. The start of that week was when things changed, hence a third interview for Appleton. Whatever the timeframe, I can't believe that they would choose Appleton over Rosenoir even before you factor in the swell of fans opinion. It just doesn't wash with me. I also agree with BFCx3 that the attraction of the Derby job is real and understandable.
in saying all that Michael Appleton might well turn out to be the better choice and better value . Sometimes things work out that way. Liam Rosenoir is no dud though and I'm not going to change my opinion on him just because he's not here like some have. Same with Critchley.
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Unless you were in the interviews we will never know .

I on the other hand can see why they would choose Appleton over Rosenior

1. Experience
2. Premier league contacts for decent loans

What are you basing your opinion of Rosenior on ?

Like most including myself you tube clips of commentary and press reports ? .

I was excited at the prospect of Rosenior but I was basing it on how well he spoke on you tube videos .

He’s got no track record as a manager .

If I owned the club I wouldn’t have risked it either if Appleton interviewed well especially in light of the significant investment to be made in the next two years
 
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AngelBFC said:
Unless you were in the interviews we will never know .

I on the other hand can see why they would choose Appleton over Rosenior

1. Experience
2. Premier league contacts for decent loans

What are you basing your opinion of Rosenior on ?

Like most including myself you tube clips of commentary and press reports . I was excited at the prospect of Rosenior but I was basing it on how well he spoke on you tube videos .

He’s got no track record as a manager .

If I owned the club I wouldn’t have risked it either if Appleton interviewed well especially in light of the other significant investment to be made in the next two years
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I’ve obviously been pretty critical of Appledog, but I agree with this.

We’re going off limited information as fans and perceptions can often be skewed.

I’m sure the board (especially those with Blackpool connections) will have gone into the process with some of the same reservations about Appleton that many of us share and he’s clearly done / said and demonstrated enough to convince them.

By contrast Rosenior might have not entirely convinced that he was the right man for Blackpool and as fully bought into the job as was needed…. He’s possibly been a little bit sheltered / spoilt in his coaching career so far for example.
 
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All I know is that the Friday afternoon before, Liam Rosenoirs appointment seemed imminent , there was a lull over the weekend before an expected announcement on Monday.
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So the question you have to ask is why did his appointment seem imminent?

Was it down to genuine ITK information, or was it just a bandwagon that got started because of the collapse of the Derby takeover that fake ITKers then clambered onto?

For me, the latter explanation seems far more likely, the club always planned to do two interviews, they happened Monday/Tuesday (and apparently included Rosenior), the third one for Appleton was once they'd decided to offer him the job and was to discuss terms, there is no way the club was going to be in a position to offer the job to LR on the previous Friday, they're not going to go through 3 interviews with Appleton but offer the job to LR after 1.
 
This entirely explains the whole thing for me and fits the narrative. Rosenior was probably top candidate after the first round of interviews but before the second round found out about Rooney’s intentions

Either before his second interview or just after it he advised us that he no longer wished to be considered for the role. Hence we had the club stating that Appleton was first choice (which may have been true) and Rosenior was never offered the job.
 
AngelBFC said:
Unless you were in the interviews we will never know .

I on the other hand can see why they would choose Appleton over Rosenior

1. Experience
2. Premier league contacts for decent loans

What are you basing your opinion of Rosenior on ?

Like most including myself you tube clips of commentary and press reports ? .

I was excited at the prospect of Rosenior but I was basing it on how well he spoke on you tube videos .

He’s got no track record as a manager .

If I owned the club I wouldn’t have risked it either if Appleton interviewed well especially in light of the significant investment to be made in the next two years
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I've known about Rosenoir for a long while because I have a little secondary interest in Brighton and I watched him countless times on sky when he was a pundit for a year. I know that's not the same as a solid management record but he's just got that feel about him of quality and integrity and you won't find anyone anywhere saying anything bad about him. Who knows , he might not match the promise of all that and time will tell. To me Appleton was a pretty poor appointment and I wasn't on my own in thinking that on here and about Rosenoir. It's just that most have shifted the other way now it's actually happened. I did listen to Appleton when he came and he was
Likeable if you ignore the crap of him leaving only because of the Oystons. I'm more than willing to give him a chance.
 
Wilburrabbit said:
This entirely explains the whole thing for me and fits the narrative. Rosenior was probably top candidate after the first round of interviews but before the second round found out about Rooney’s intentions

Either before his second interview or just after it he advised us that he no longer wished to be considered for the role. Hence we had the club stating that Appleton was first choice (which may have been true) and Rosenior was never offered the job.
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There's no such thing as a top candidate after the first round, and if there was only one or two people within BFC would know and they weren't talking.

If he didn't want the job, why go to the second interview.

The simplest answer is he was never offered the job, and everything else is fake ITKers trying to make a name for themselves.
 
Lost Seasider said:
There's no such thing as a top candidate after the first round, and if there was only one or two people within BFC would know and they weren't talking.

If he didn't want the job, why go to the second interview.

The simplest answer is he was never offered the job, and everything else is fake ITKers trying to make a name for themselves.
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We will never know. I have just done enough recruitment in my time to know that you have a shortlist after first interview and a preference. Often it does have to change due to circumstances.

People sometimes do have a second interview to keep their options open even if they think they are unlikely to take the job if offered.

Pure speculation though I admit.
 
You’ve got 2 guys in the frame

Candidate 1- Experienced manager incl at premier league level with a track record of developing players and contacts with prem clubs who have personally trusted him in the past with their quality young players. Used to working within a strict budget and being relatively successful. Relatively long stints at previous two clubs

Candidate 2- Clever articulate potentially a very good manager but with no experience as a no 1 and hence no track record of a - managing a football club on a strict budget and all that entails b- personally attracting loan players from top quality clubs - completely untested

Both interview well enough

You know you are already making a huge 30-40 million investment in the clubs infrastructure from your personal funds and although you have set a reasonable playing budget to enable the club to compete it’s still has to be at the lower end of the championship

What do you do ?

I know what I’d do - candidate 1
 
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Wilburrabbit said:
This entirely explains the whole thing for me and fits the narrative. Rosenior was probably top candidate after the first round of interviews but before the second round found out about Rooney’s intentions

Either before his second interview or just after it he advised us that he no longer wished to be considered for the role. Hence we had the club stating that Appleton was first choice (which may have been true) and Rosenior was never offered the job.
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If that were correct there would have been no need to give Appleton a 3rd interview
 
'La Vie en Rose' said " told us that was his desire when stood on that there terrace at Barnet because the 23,000 [sic] Pool fans
 
AngelBFC said:
If that were correct there would have been no need to give Appleton a 3rd interview
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There would if you had two competing candidates and each offered different merits then one pulled out. You may need to convince yourself that the positives which the other had were not a problem in appointing him.

In fact if Appleton was always the leading candidate over two interviews why was there a third at all?
 
Well after everyone fawning over him when they thought he was coming here it will be interesting to see how he fairs.
 
Still wonder if we missed out on the right manager!

Rosenior also confirmed they ARE in the loan market for players in Premier League first teams. He wants to wait for that opportunity rather than rush into anything. #DCFC
 
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