Sadler could buy PNE

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LA1 Seasider

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Bored one night whilst working at sea I used the editor function in Football Manager to financially cripple PNE. Huge debts, unwilling backers, overinflated contracts etc (basically their current reality) and within a season or two they were in the depths of League 2 and on their way to non-league obscurity (Blackpool were a European powerhouse within 3 seasons I must add).

Now I’ve been thinking… PNE are basically a basket case. No one will buy them for any sort of real money given their loss making ways. Hemmings would likely sell Deepdale and the club for £10/15 million just to get rid of the financial drain and recoup some of their families losses.

Sadler could shelve the Garstang Road plan, buy our neighbours, leave them to ruin and do all that for less than he plans to spend on the training ground and we’d love him even more.

But in all seriousness Sadler has plans to pump more money into our infrastructure than that club down the road is even worth… and that must be a little concerning for them
 
LA1 Seasider, How much do you think 'pool are worth as it currently stands?

BTW, planning to and actually doing are two different things.

As to your post, I'd take the advice of Off Duty Trip if I were you, otherwise you'll become more addled.
 
Norfolk White said:
LA1 Seasider, How much do you think 'pool are worth as it currently stands?

BTW, planning to and actually doing are two different things.

As to your post, I'd take the advice of Off Duty Trip if I were you, otherwise you'll become more addled.
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Our worth currently isn’t exactly relevant given we’ve got a new owner committed to pumping money in to the club with a long term business plan in place. It can’t really be judged for a few years yet.

I’d suggest we’re likely worth more than PNE though given we’re not losing anywhere near as much money, are in the same league with a similar fan base and Bloomfield Road is a much more efficient source of revenue (more office space, hotel, restaurants etc and scope for future developments to only further increase revenue generation). Deepdale, whilst largely completed (not sure if the upper level of the invincibles is still just a shell or not) doesn’t really have a great deal of office space or other facilities aside from the Invincibles (which is only about as big as the Armfield stand at BR) and a relatively small and dated corporate space attached to the Finney. There’s also the old museum which seems to be a bit of a white elephant.

BR as an asset is worth considerably more than DD and that gulf will only increase with the new East stand.

Sadler bought BFC for approx £8 million in League 1 and that came with a squad of little value, dilapidated facilities etc and zero good will.

The club now must be worth triple that now if not more.
 
LA1 Seasider said:
It’s true though. PNE is a financial basket case and could be picked up for peanuts… (in terms of football clubs) yet there’s no buyers. Is that not concerning? The Hemmings money pipe will run dry eventually.
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No idea but glad we’re in the Hemmings family hands and not that chancer who impersonated a buyer for both pne/Derby

It’s not always greener on the other side 🙂
 
What is the Nobber clubs debt currently stand at to Hemmings?
I’m assuming the son won’t be writing that off, and any new owner will need to negotiate that first before then paying the price of a lower Championship club (whatever the going rate is today?)
 
So effectively they’d want at least £100m for a club with a bored fan base and little success since the Boer War?
 
Chunkylad said:
So effectively they’d want at least £100m for a club with a bored fan base and little success since the Boer War?
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I think they know there’s absolutely zero prospect of that. Hemmings kids would likely sell the club to pretty much anyone coming along willing to take it off their hands. It’s a black hole financially speaking.

If they can get a couple of million back they’d be delighted, ideally they just want to keep the land at Ingol Golf Club (bought for the purposes of building a training ground alongside a massive housing development - until they bought their 3rd hand facility (was Boltons, then Wigans) they currently use).

If they can sell the club and lease out Deepdale they’d be happy, if they got £15 million lock stock and barrel they’d be laughing.
 
LA1 Seasider said:
Bored one night whilst working at sea I used the editor function in Football Manager to financially cripple PNE. Huge debts, unwilling backers, overinflated contracts etc (basically their current reality) and within a season or two they were in the depths of League 2 and on their way to non-league obscurity (Blackpool were a European powerhouse within 3 seasons I must add).

Now I’ve been thinking… PNE are basically a basket case. No one will buy them for any sort of real money given their loss making ways. Hemmings would likely sell Deepdale and the club for £10/15 million just to get rid of the financial drain and recoup some of their families losses.

Sadler could shelve the Garstang Road plan, buy our neighbours, leave them to ruin and do all that for less than he plans to spend on the training ground and we’d love him even more.

But in all seriousness Sadler has plans to pump more money into our infrastructure than that club down the road is even worth… and that must be a little concerning for them
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Maybe Oyston could buy them
 
BIG_BERTHA said:
So what's the script with you lot are you up for sale or is Jr going for glory.
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I presume they are happy to keep going while at the same time would be open to selling to the right person if a reasonable offer was made

If they were as desperate as some say to get rid they would have accepted Kirchners offer

Steady on with the going for glory talk we’re still short of about 5 players , hopefully a few more in by the end of July


Don’t you guys have to pay Sadler back for the training ground over time? Thought I read that somewhere but could be wrong.
 
Kirchner 100% got his offer accepted by Hemmings Jr to buy PNE football team
Ridsdale said "He (Kirchner) was obviously not serious because he didn't even bother to contact the EFL to start the owners/directors test."
Why would Kirchner do this; unless he had an offer accepted?

For the last 3 years 2018 - 2021 Mr Hemmings bought shares (around 1m a month)
In 2020/2021 PNE accounts show £55m in shares already owed to T Hemmings and it also said that another £12m - £15m in share purchases would be needed for next season.....so unless the club gets promoted/wins a cup etc, it's going to need a similar amount this season

These 'shares' are set out as debt owed by the 'club' to the 'owner'
If PNE are sold, the new owners would purchase these shares......and that money would go to the Hemmings family....not PNE

Your 11,000 season ticket holder (2,000 more than last season) brought a further £500k of income into the club
you lost 16 players (so conservatively) your saving £2m in wages.....so lets say you only need £10m from Hemmings this year

New players?.....you say you need 5....so any money to buy these players, will have to come from Hemmings Jr.....How much can you spend??

By the end of 22/23 season the amount "owed" to the Hemmings family will be £55m (on the books) + £10m for 22/23 + what's spent on players

So PNE cannot survive on current income and would need 40,000 new season ticket holders, just to cover running costs
Mr Hemmings will need to spend £1m +/- every month.....Maybe that's why he wants to sell?
And...WHO wants to buy a loss making football team, with no stadium, losing £10m every year and their only asset is a £500k training ground.

The ONLY thing keeping the door open at PNE is Hemmings.....
And he will take the first offer that saves him that £12m every year and gives him some return of the £55m - £70m his dad put in...
 
Kirchner then reduced his offer , probably because he didn’t actually have the funds?

He was quickly sent packing


Most championship clubs run at a loss and on paper don’t look sustainable, no one in their right mind would buy one , yet here we all are still spending cash we don’t have

Blackpool no different, the training ground will leave a huge amount to be paid back
 
LA1 Seasider said:
It’s true though. PNE is a financial basket case and could be picked up for peanuts… (in terms of football clubs) yet there’s no buyers. Is that not concerning? The Hemmings money pipe will run dry eventually.
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Why is North End a basket case? And why is BR worth more than Deepdale? We have no debts, we owe no money to anyone (the Hemmings family have stated on a number of occasions that they do not expect the money back given they have been buying shares into the club and the club owe them nothing), how many other Championship clubs are debt free? Even SS has said he would want the money back he is by putting into ‘pool so your club are going into debt anytime now.

If Deepdale could be picked up for peanuts you’d have to pay someone to take over your club as it stands. And given the Hemmings family are worth over £1 billion I would suggest that SS’ money pipe would run dry a long time before there’s does, isn’t that worrying for you?
 
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B_Side_The_C_Side said:
The ONLY thing keeping the door open at PNE is Hemmings.....
And he will take the first offer that saves him that £12m every year and gives him some return of the £55m - £70m his dad put in...
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If the Hemmings family would take the first offer that saved them £12million every year then the club would already have been sold to Kirchner but they kicked him out the door after carrying out their own due diligence on him.

Like any club owner, including SS, if the right offer came in and it was in the best interest of their club they would likely sell. How no many times has Man Utd been sold and seen new owners take over in the last 30-40 years. Chelsea the same and even your club was sold only a couple of years ago. So what is wrong if the Hemmings family did decide to sell North End?
 
Norfolk White said:
Why is North End a basket case? And why is BR worth more than Deepdale? We have no debts, we owe no money to anyone (the Hemmings family have stated on a number of occasions that they do not expect the money back given they have been buying shares into the club and the club owe them nothing), how many other Championship clubs are debt free? Even SS has said he would want the money back he is by putting into ‘pool so your club are going into debt anytime now.

If Deepdale could be picked up for peanuts you’d have to pay someone to take over your club as it stands. And given the Hemmings family are worth over £1 billion I would suggest that SS’ money pipe would run dry a long time before there’s does, isn’t that worrying for you?
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Literally explained why to those things. Based on pretty sound reasons too. Basic stuff like available income streams etc.

And buying shares in the business, however you want to look at it, is essentially a loan.

P.S. any business losing £10 million a year just to maintain the status quo regardless of how wealthy their owner happens to be is a basket case.
 
NoFuck, are you going senile...as well as boring....?

Everyone knows Kirchner went back to Derby.......Hemmings/Ridsdale didn't 'kick him out'
You all waited with baited breath for him to come back.........But he didn't come back.......he just preferred Derby.....it's common knowledge

And how many times do you have to embarrass yourself........PNE 'DEBT' is paid for by Hemmings buying shares
It's the only way any owner can fund a football club without falling foul of financial fair play.....all owners of football clubs do this......
Pne OWE the hemmings £50M +.....It's on your clubs balance sheet

So you are not debt free.....For 8 of the last 9 seasons, PNE (The club) has made a financial loss....and this is covered by Hemmings
Exactly the same happens to football clubs across the UK.....The Coats family at Stoke, Abramovich at Chelsea, Moshiri at Everton & Pozzo at Watford, they do exactly what Trev did at PNE
Why are PNE different to any of these clubs....Are they all debt free as well?.......you owe the money.....but you could never repay it

When Hemmings does sell.....and he will have to sell you.....whatever Hemmings can get for you...... goes to the Hemmings family....Not to the club
It could be £20m....It's more likely to be for a nominal £1 to someone who agrees to keep funding PNE £10m every season

And Simon Sadler is exactly the same.....whatever he spends, when he comes to sell up, he will want all his money back
Were not debt free.......Fortunately Blackpool FC don't lose £10m - £12m every season.....
 
B_Side_The_C_Side said:
NoFuck, are you going senile...as well as boring....?

Everyone knows Kirchner went back to Derby.......Hemmings/Ridsdale didn't 'kick him out'
You all waited with baited breath for him to come back.........But he didn't come back.......he just preferred Derby.....it's common knowledge

And how many times do you have to embarrass yourself........PNE 'DEBT' is paid for by Hemmings buying shares
It's the only way any owner can fund a football club without falling foul of financial fair play.....all owners of football clubs do this......
Pne OWE the hemmings £50M +.....It's on your clubs balance sheet

So you are not debt free.....For 8 of the last 9 seasons, PNE (The club) has made a financial loss....and this is covered by Hemmings
Exactly the same happens to football clubs across the UK.....The Coats family at Stoke, Abramovich at Chelsea, Moshiri at Everton & Pozzo at Watford, they do exactly what Trev did at PNE
Why are PNE different to any of these clubs....Are they all debt free as well?.......you owe the money.....but you could never repay it

When Hemmings does sell.....and he will have to sell you.....whatever Hemmings can get for you...... goes to the Hemmings family....Not to the club
It could be £20m....It's more likely to be for a nominal £1 to someone who agrees to keep funding PNE £10m every season

And Simon Sadler is exactly the same.....whatever he spends, when he comes to sell up, he will want all his money back
Were not debt free.......Fortunately Blackpool FC don't lose £10m - £12m every season.....
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And if your not losing 10 mill a season then within a season or two you’ll be back in league one as that’s the going rate to tread water in the championship

That’s the reality of it
 
LA1 Seasider said:
It’s true though. PNE is a financial basket case and could be picked up for peanuts… (in terms of football clubs) yet there’s no buyers. Is that not concerning? The Hemmings money pipe will run dry eventually.
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I thought Hemmings Junior had commited to keeping the gravy train open? As with most clubs, they will be finally bought and will go through peaks and troughs like we all have. They are due another relegation so here's hoping the lowcomotion hits the skids early doors.
 
Off Duty Trip said:
And if your not losing 10 mill a season then within a season or two you’ll be back in league one as that’s the going rate to tread water in the championship

That’s the reality of it
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Another blind Knobber that wont see the reality and just fobs off the question with a tit for tat answer.

PKE have a wages spend of 120% of income......so for the hard of thinking Knobbers...For every £100 you earn.....You give the players £120
And that's before you factor in the day to day running of the club, stadium, employees....Ridsdale's aquarium....and Butter pies.
You spend more money than Derby County....and where did that get them..... 🤔
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I will stand to be corrected but 2019 Blackpool made an operating profit in the £1m range and 2020/21 there was a £100k (?) loss (which was Covid). Pools' wage bill is one (or is the) smallest in the Championship....

So....unless PNE cut the wage bill by 30% - 40% to include operating costs......You are unsustainable, loss making business, who cannot purchase new players.....unless your owner wants to spend even more money, with no hope of ever getting it back....ever!!!!
 
Just signed a keeper from Newcastle beating off other championship clubs and prem interest

Obviously the owner is ok with that


We have actually slashed the wage bill this summer but are clearly going to re invest a chunk of it

More incomings due this week

Not concerned in the slightest
 
B_Side_The_C_Side said:
Another blind Knobber that wont see the reality and just fobs off the question with a tit for tat answer.

PKE have a wages spend of 120% of income......so for the hard of thinking Knobbers...For every £100 you earn.....You give the players £120
And that's before you factor in the day to day running of the club, stadium, employees....Ridsdale's aquarium....and Butter pies.
You spend more money than Derby County....and where did that get them..... 🤔
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I will stand to be corrected but 2019 Blackpool made an operating profit in the £1m range and 2020/21 there was a £100k (?) loss (which was Covid). Pools' wage bill is one (or is the) smallest in the Championship....

So....unless PNE cut the wage bill by 30% - 40% to include operating costs......You are unsustainable, loss making business, who cannot purchase new players.....unless your owner wants to spend even more money, with no hope of ever getting it back....ever!!!!
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If the Hemmings family keep funding us there is no problem another million £ in shares bought last week.
We are ok with FFP because he keeps putting money.
I think you need to realise you players are on piss poor wages & will all be moving on next June for free .
Sadler is going to have to fund you just the same or get relegated.
It is common knowledge Critchley had a interview for the Rovers & moved then went to AV
Alex Neil turned down a number of jobs & could have gone to PL. but he stayed .
Critchley jumped ship as soon as he could that should tell you everything you need to no about Blackpool fc & how attractive you are.
Blackpool fc & the gazette are still feeding you the same shit Oyston did.
The thing is you all lap it up.
wake up & smell the coffee lads .
 
Time will tell whether the plan for a sustainable approach will result in relegation for Blackpool or not. But we have come to learn that when relegation does come, promotion inevitable follows.

What is interesting is that all of that over spending has achieved nothing but a mediocre existence in the championship. Not sure I would be so quick to celebrate that to be honest, but each to their own I guess.
 
Livingthedream47 said:
If the Hemmings family keep funding us there is no problem another million £ in shares bought last week.
We are ok with FFP because he keeps putting money.
I think you need to realise you players are on piss poor wages & will all be moving on next June for free .
Sadler is going to have to fund you just the same or get relegated.
It is common knowledge Critchley had a interview for the Rovers & moved then went to AV
Alex Neil turned down a number of jobs & could have gone to PL. but he stayed .
Critchley jumped ship as soon as he could that should tell you everything you need to no about Blackpool fc & how attractive you are.
Blackpool fc & the gazette are still feeding you the same shit Oyston did.
The thing is you all lap it up.
wake up & smell the coffee lads .
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Livingthedream47 said:
If the Hemmings family keep funding us there is no problem another million £ in shares bought last week.
We are ok with FFP because he keeps putting money.
I think you need to realise you players are on piss poor wages & will all be moving on next June for free .
Sadler is going to have to fund you just the same or get relegated.
It is common knowledge Critchley had a interview for the Rovers & moved then went to AV
Alex Neil turned down a number of jobs & could have gone to PL. but he stayed .
Critchley jumped ship as soon as he could that should tell you everything you need to no about Blackpool fc & how attractive you are.
Blackpool fc & the gazette are still feeding you the same shit Oyston did.
The thing is you all lap it up.
wake up & smell the coffee lads .
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So you think Hemmings family is happy losing £10 million + year on year and racking up debt making PNE virtually worthless…🤡

You also think Sadler spending £40 million quid on infrastructure is bad for us and that he’s then going to let all our best players leave on free transfers… 🤦‍♂️

Spending in infrastructure is part of the plan to make the club sustainable in the long term. The business plan is to build a club which makes money from player development and from the infrastructure surrounding the club. If when making profit Sadler pays himself back then literally no Blackpool fan will begrudge him a penny.

PNE have an infrastructure in place already yet still lose £10 million per year and find themselves in pretty much the exact same place as their rivals… I truly don’t understand how any PNE fan can’t see the futures bleak unless they win the promotion lottery… and quite frankly they’ve got no real hope of that unless they spend ridiculous sums of money they already don’t have.
 
Que another deluded and blind Knobber that simply ignores the question and replies with a few insults.......

But just focus on the first 2 comments....
"If the Hemmings family keep funding us there is no problem."... Really?....It's the Hemmings family, not just the one guy anymore......
"We are ok with FFP because he keeps putting money......(I think you wanted to finish with "into the club")....but as costs go up, PNE will hit FFP soon

Well, you obviously agree that the only reason you are still alive is Mr Hemmings is spending around £1m a month to keep the doors open.
I can see YOU are ok with that.....your £10 or £15 you paid to watch a home game with your cheap season ticket is about as much as you're willing to pay.
Mr Hemmings is paying £500,000 for every home game he attends......and that before he stumps up even more money to buy new players.

You are on the same trajectory as Bolton, Wigan, Derby, Sunderland, Oldham & Coventry......Billionare owners who stopped paying the bills....
And thats PNE.......Even if Hemmings gave you away for £1......Your new owner would have to find £10m - £12m every year to open the doors

And what 'businessman' or 'businesswomen', would do that as I doubt any PNE fan has more than their minimum wage job or Universal credit to pay for it........
 
Off Duty Trip said:
Just signed a keeper from Newcastle beating off other championship clubs and prem interest

Obviously the owner is ok with that


We have actually slashed the wage bill this summer but are clearly going to re invest a chunk of it

More incomings due this week

Not concerned in the slightest
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Has terrible ratings from Swansea fans where he has the crux of his appearances. If he was any good, he'd still be at Newcastle or at Bournemouth. He's only 25 and can improve but he wouldn't get in ahead of either of our keepers.
 
SeasideKurt said:
Has terrible ratings from Swansea fans where he has the crux of his appearances. If he was any good, he'd still be at Newcastle or at Bournemouth. He's only 25 and can improve but he wouldn't get in ahead of either of our keepers.
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Wouldn’t get in ahead of Maxwell? What a deluded clown you are. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

Just for reference before you start spouting more shite…

 
Tintoploop said:
Wouldn’t get in ahead of Maxwell? What a deluded clown you are. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

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Read their twitter replies, said he was shit. Also know a few Swansea fans who've said the same. Didn't play a minute for Bournemouth.

No, he wouldn't get in ahead of Maxwell.

If you want to be deluded and to make a keeper sound better than he actually is, then stick to your own forum you bellend.

He's not as good as Iversen is he? So you've downgraded keepers this season. Your defence is weaker and your attack is substantially weaker. You've got work to do. And if Ben Woodburn is your answer. Lol.
 
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Wouldn’t get in ahead of Maxwell? What a deluded clown you are. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

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I wouldn’t get too excited about Woodman. He’s not played a lot of first team football for someone his age. Couldn’t force his way into the Bournemouth squad and frankly the whole winning the World Cup thing with the England kids is meaningless. Curtis Anderson won it with the U-17’s with Phil Foden… last season he played for Lancaster City…
 

Freddie Woodman

Great signing for Preston this. Quality keeper.
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If we'd just signed a keeper who may come good you never know, but had some of these comments from fans at his past club etc, I'd be a little worried until I saw him at the least....
 
LA1 Seasider said:
Literally explained why to those things. Based on pretty sound reasons too. Basic stuff like available income streams etc.

And buying shares in the business, however you want to look at it, is essentially a loan.

P.S. any business losing £10 million a year just to maintain the status quo regardless of how wealthy their owner happens to be is a basket case.
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I guess that you believe Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, etc all to be basket cases then?
 
SeasideKurt said:
Has terrible ratings from Swansea fans where he has the crux of his appearances. If he was any good, he'd still be at Newcastle or at Bournemouth. He's only 25 and can improve but he wouldn't get in ahead of either of our keepers.
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So that is why he was their player of the season and kept all those clean sheets?

BTW is that bet on or not??
 
SeasideKurt said:
Read their twitter replies, said he was shit. Also know a few Swansea fans who've said the same. Didn't play a minute for Bournemouth.

No, he wouldn't get in ahead of Maxwell.

If you want to be deluded and to make a keeper sound better than he actually is, then stick to your own forum you bellend.

He's not as good as Iversen is he? So you've downgraded keepers this season. Your defence is weaker and your attack is substantially weaker. You've got work to do. And if Ben Woodburn is your answer. Lol.
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And your squad is curently stronger because you have brought who in?
 
Norfolk White said:
I guess that you believe Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, etc all to be basket cases then?
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Not really the same is it given the ridiculous commercial and tv revenues they can make globally and the value of the brand. They can operate at a loss but if they wanted could claw back a few billion with player sales and reduced wage budget for a few seasons and some savvy sponsorship deals - they could still remain competitive for a few seasons whilst doing that too.

To compare those clubs with PNE’s situation is frankly ludicrous. And if you believe the reality and rules which apply to those clubs apply equally to PNE and their finances then there’s literally no point even trying to have a reasonable discussion about it !

And for the record yes. My argument was that any business losing £10 million + a year to maintain the status quo is a basket case and I stand by that. Because those clubs you just identified aren’t standing still. The money they’re spending is building and solidifying their position as global behemoths (without necessarily guaranteeing them success in competitions) and they’re therefore growing. Every million (or even billion) a club of that scale loses can reasonably be brought back into the club with jeopardising their very existence. The same cannot plausibly be said about PNE and their recent (and seemingly current) businesss model.
 
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Read their twitter replies, said he was shit. Also know a few Swansea fans who've said the same. Didn't play a minute for Bournemouth.

No, he wouldn't get in ahead of Maxwell.

If you want to be deluded and to make a keeper sound better than he actually is, then stick to your own forum you bellend.

He's not as good as Iversen is he? So you've downgraded keepers this season. Your defence is weaker and your attack is substantially weaker. You've got work to do. And if Ben Woodburn is your answer. Lol.
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Ironic.
 
SeasideKurt said:
Read their twitter replies, said he was shit. Also know a few Swansea fans who've said the same. Didn't play a minute for Bournemouth.

No, he wouldn't get in ahead of Maxwell.

If you want to be deluded and to make a keeper sound better than he actually is, then stick to your own forum you bellend.

He's not as good as Iversen is he? So you've downgraded keepers this season. Your defence is weaker and your attack is substantially weaker. You've got work to do. And if Ben Woodburn is your answer. Lol.
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We’ve got a lot of work to do 😂.
JJpool said:

Freddie Woodman

Great signing for Preston this. Quality keeper.
avftt.co.uk

If we'd just signed a keeper who may come good you never know, but had some of these comments from fans at his past club etc, I'd be a little worried until I saw him at the least....
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SeasideKurt said:
Read their twitter replies, said he was shit. Also know a few Swansea fans who've said the same. Didn't play a minute for Bournemouth.

No, he wouldn't get in ahead of Maxwell.

If you want to be deluded and to make a keeper sound better than he actually is, then stick to your own forum you bellend.

He's not as good as Iversen is he? So you've downgraded keepers this season. Your defence is weaker and your attack is substantially weaker. You've got work to do. And if Ben Woodburn is your answer. Lol.
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He was their player of the season you ** cretin! But like you said Swansea fans don’t rate him 🤦🏻‍♂️ You really want to take off those tangerine tinted specs.
 
Tintoploop said:
We’ve got a lot of work to do 😂.


He was their player of the season you ** cretin! But like you said Swansea fans don’t rate him 🤦🏻‍♂️ You really want to take off those tangerine tinted specs.
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Tinofpoop, not sure who you're calling a cretin, only going off what has been shown and what some have said.

You can put these highlight reels together to make someone look great or shit, however you can't hide the fact some of them were howlers, which would worry me a little if getting him in.
 
Tintoploop said:
We’ve got a lot of work to do 😂.


He was their player of the season you ** cretin! But like you said Swansea fans don’t rate him 🤦🏻‍♂️ You really want to take off those tangerine tinted specs.
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You do, your squad is significantly worse off than last season. Your best three players by quite a distance aren't there anymore?

You have Brad Potts at right wing back, that's League One material right there.
 
JJpool said:
Tinofpoop, not sure who you're calling a cretin, only going off what has been shown and what some have said.

You can put these highlight reels together to make someone look great or shit, however you can't hide the fact some of them were howlers, which would worry me a little if getting him in.
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You also can’t deny the fact he’s won player of the year at his previous club. Only time will tell to see if he can have another good season the championship. The fact is we’re signing players with championship pedigree, which is more than you lot are. I’m sure when you sign someone from Lincoln you and SeasiderKurt will claim they are going to set the championship alight.
 
Tintoploop said:
You also can’t deny the fact he’s won player of the year at his previous club. Only time will tell to see if he can have another good season the championship. The fact is we’re signing players with championship pedigree, which is more than you lot are. I’m sure when you sign someone from Lincoln you and SeasiderKurt will claim they are going to set the championship alight.
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U have signed woodman and someone from Peterborough yes ur steaming ahead with these championship pedigree players🙄 tit
 
Tintoploop said:
You also can’t deny the fact he’s won player of the year at his previous club. Only time will tell to see if he can have another good season the championship. The fact is we’re signing players with championship pedigree, which is more than you lot are. I’m sure when you sign someone from Lincoln you and SeasiderKurt will claim they are going to set the championship alight.
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I really don't care, only pointing out the howlers he's had. I didn't put that together, just not very inspiring seeing some bad mistakes.

Given our track record of signing players no one else knows and them playing well above themselves its much more likely to happen at Blackpool, maybe its the fan energy.

Afterall, we had just league 1 players according to you lot and stayed up with ease. We always get the best from players. Do you?
 
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