Sleeping on the streets

Jaffa_The_Hut

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BBC1 news this morning.

With sub zero temperatures hitting the country it highlighted that numbers have risen by 25% over the last 2 years estimates say 3,500 regularly sleep out on the streets in London alone without food or shelter and survive on begging for food one guy interviewed sent 6 years on the streets of the capital wrapping himself up in newspapers during the winter months in order to try and keep warm.

Yet 40 miles down the road in Dover we house illegal immigrants in shelters provide beds and feed them 3 square meals a day while applications are processed.

Many towns/cities across the U.K. house migrants in 3-4 star hotels waiting for them to be housed even here in Blackpool we see it.

How can this be in a country like ours in the 21st century where we don’t look after our own people yet choose to look after other nationals as a priority? 🤷‍♂️
 
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BBC1 news this morning.

With sub zero temperatures hitting the country it highlighted that numbers have risen by 25% over the last 2 years estimates say 3,500 regularly sleep out on the streets in London alone without food or shelter and survive on begging for food one guy interviewed sent 6 years on the streets of the capital wrapping himself up in newspapers during the winter months in order to try and keep warm.

Yet 40 miles down the road in Dover we house illegal immigrants in shelters provide beds and feed them 3 square meals a day while applications are processed.

Many towns/cities across the U.K. house migrants in 3-4 star hotels waiting for them to be housed even here in Blackpool we see it.

How can this be in a country like ours in the 21st century where we don’t look after our own people yet choose to look after other nationals as a priority? 🤷‍♂️
We've done this one before Jaffa. Many out on the streets choose to do it. Why? I don't know. However, the Government and local Councils have a duty of care to all of those who need accommodation.
 
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We've done this on before Jaffa. Many out on the streets choose to do it. Why? I don't know. However, the Government and local Councils have a duty of care to all of those who need accommodation.
Viscous circle I'm afraid alcohol/drugs,mental health they get help they then often abuse what's on offer.

Put them in a hotel they'll carry on with their addiction, steal,fight whatever so we're putting 2+2 and getting 5.
 
Let's be clear, if there's a UK resident that has been forced from their home and onto the streets and needs accommodation, they should be a priority. But if those people on the streets are addicts who choose to be there, then they need access to help and support IF they want to get clean. If they don't, then they shouldn't be considered a priority over migrants.

And for the record; I would imagine that each case is different and should be treated as such. Just the same as migrants; some will be fleeing a desperate situation, some will be trafficked here by organised criminal gangs and some will simply be economic migrants. Same as some on the streets will be alkies, some will be druggies and some will simply be desperate for help.
 
We've done this on before Jaffa. Many out on the streets choose to do it. Why? I don't know. However, the Government and local Councils have a duty of care to all of those who need accommodation.
Choose to live on the streets??? If it’s that good why don’t you do it?
Having no choice and choosing are two different things.
 
I don’t think there’s many people (if any) who “choose” to sleep out on the streets.

These are desperate people who have little or no choice in life yet we as a country sit back and do nothing thinking they are all crack heads and that they deserve it.
 
BBC1 news this morning.

With sub zero temperatures hitting the country it highlighted that numbers have risen by 25% over the last 2 years estimates say 3,500 regularly sleep out on the streets in London alone without food or shelter and survive on begging for food one guy interviewed sent 6 years on the streets of the capital wrapping himself up in newspapers during the winter months in order to try and keep warm.

Yet 40 miles down the road in Dover we house illegal immigrants in shelters provide beds and feed them 3 square meals a day while applications are processed.

Many towns/cities across the U.K. house migrants in 3-4 star hotels waiting for them to be housed even here in Blackpool we see it.

How can this be in a country like ours in the 21st century where we don’t look after our own people yet choose to look after other nationals as a priority? 🤷‍♂️
correct 👍🏻 Add in to the fact that when illegal immigrants move into these four star hotels at tax payers expense all the hard working staff are laid off, sometimes with just a days notice, probably forcing more People onto the streets 🙁
 
We've done this one before Jaffa. Many out on the streets choose to do it. Why? I don't know. However, the Government and local Councils have a duty of care to all of those who need accommodation.
Some it is simply they cannot bear to be separated from their dogs, I do not think hostels allow animals in
 
We should be able to look after both. The people in Dover shouldn't be here but if they've managed to get here then we need to look after them until they reach their final destination.

All concerned are human beings.
 
People are sleeping on the streets all over the UK, not just London.

It's strange how the BBC and others ignore some goings on in the rest of the country if it doesn't affect our great Capital.

Currently there are around 2000 homes in Sheffield without heat, gas or water due to a burst water main that has flooded the Gas supply to these poor people, it happened on Friday last week and is still ongoing Had this happened in London it would have been headline news.
 
People are sleeping on the streets all over the UK, not just London.

It's strange how the BBC and others ignore some goings on in the rest of the country if it doesn't affect our great Capital.

Currently there are around 2000 homes in Sheffield without heat, gas or water due to a burst water main that has flooded the Gas supply to these poor people, it happened on Friday last week and is still ongoing Had this happened in London it would have been headline news.
Completely agree Wilf.

It’s just that the programme this morning was about people sleeping rough in the Capital.

I know it’s a nationwide problem in every town/city in the U.K.

We just seem to have this obsession in this country of looking after other nationals rather than our own as a priority.
 
Nobody should have to sl on the street in this country, unless they choose to do so, the fact that there are people who have no option, is a disgrace.
 
Not just London is it BEEB! Plenty everywhere including Blackpool who sleep by places like Funny Girls and other doorways that I walk past at 7am every morning.
 
Have they no refuge or resource? cried Scrooge

Are there no prisons? said the spirit turning to him for the last time.
Are there no workhouses? asked the spirit using Scrooges own words.
 
As far as I’m aware (it was certainly the case a couple of years back) Blackpool only has ‘dry’ hostels (I.e. only available to those not under the influence of drugs or alcohol). And not even enough of those.
We need some ‘wet’ hostels if we really want to help those with addictions. Other parts of the country have them, with experts on hand to offer other services on top of a warm bed.
 
As far as I’m aware (it was certainly the case a couple of years back) Blackpool only has ‘dry’ hostels (I.e. only available to those not under the influence of drugs or alcohol). And not even enough of those.
We need some ‘wet’ hostels if we really want to help those with addictions. Other parts of the country have them, with experts on hand to offer other services on top of a warm bed.
Agreed.
We managed to solve the homeless problem overnight during the pandemic.
At that time we wanted them off the streets to stop the spread of COVID.
Presumably places were found for the drinkers and druggers then.
Face it, life on the streets is not easy, I would probably drink and/or take drugs if I was living on the streets.

There is an interesting research described in the book below. Street sleepers were given a large amount of no strings attached cash. A fairly high percentage used it to turn their lives around.

 
I had to smile, El Burro, when I googled the book and started reading the first reviewer comment, on the guardian review page, I think it was. I gave up reading it eventually. I don’t think they liked the book 🙃

‘A naive and silly book

Reviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on 9 May 2017

In chapter one, the author assays the idea of utopia, but does so incompetently. He looks at three utopias: "Land of Cockaigne", described in various Medieval tales and poems, Campanella's "City of the Sun", and More's "Utopia". According to the author, the first is a wish-fulfillment dream of unlimited wealth, luxury and instant gratification of every lust, the second makes him think of "fascism, Stalinism and genocide". As for the third, he doesn't describe or quote from it it at all, but says More "literally wrote the book on utopia".

In reality, Cockaigne Land, rather than an ideal model, was generally satirical and parodic, mocking, for example, fat, lazy, decadent monks who lived in idle luxury while peasants worked to supply all their needs. As for Campanella's and More's utopias, both are in fact pretty similar to one another (though not identical), and both are *communist*.

Some common features of both utopias:
* Everyone is required to work for the state.
* Idleness is punished.
* Goods are distributed equally to all.
* Equal sharing of work leads to short working hours.
* State-run education ensures children have right values.
* People dress uniformly and plainly.
* Money is not in general use.
* There is slavery.

Some interesting differences:
* In Campanella's city, the family is abolished and there is "community of wives".
* Also, in Campanella's city, there are both male and female magistrates.

The idea of community of wives recurs in socialist and communist writings, including those of Leger-Marie Deschamps, of the Saint-Simonians, and in the most famous communist tract of them all, the manifesto written by Marx and Engels.

How does a person set out to write a book about the idea of utopia manage to miss the fact that Tommaso Campanella's and Thomas More's utopias are communist?

This mistake undermines the central premise of his book. The author claims we've lost the utopian spirit, and need to revive it, but in fact, when we look at the utopias he invokes in evidence, we find that they promised prosperity for all and shorter working hours (and, in the Campanella version, also feminism), and we've got those things. The ordinary masses in the developed world is wealthier than More and Campanella imagined possible, most of us work fewer hours than More and Campanella promised we would, and we don't have slaves, because we have machines. Moreover, not only was this achieved without communism, but communism has turned out to be a disaster which consistently leads to economic failure (to the point of famine) and tyranny -- exactly in the manner predicted with almost uncanny precision by Eugen Fichter in the 19th century dystopian novel, "Pictures of Our Socialistic Future" and explained forensically in Friedrich Hayek's 1943 book, "The Road to Serfdom". Hayek's theory has been confirmed again and again since his book came out -- in Mao's China, the Castros' Cuba, the Kims' Korea, and various other countries including, most recently, Venezuela.

The communist utopia turned out to be a nightmare. Moderate socialist utopias are redundant, because we already have moderate socialism in most of the Western world. Feminist and gay and sexual liberation utopias are similarly redundant. Dystopias, which carry the implicit message, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", are much more germane today. Nevertheless, utopias are still written. They usually lean towards libertarianism, and they're typically published under the rubric of science fiction. The Star Trek franchise is set against a utopian background, in case Mr Bregman hasn't noticed.

Most of the rest of Bregman's book is given over to justifying a guaranteed minimum income, which is a reasonable idea by itself, but not if it is implemented in addition to, rather than instead of, a whole slew of other welfare payments and redistributive policies that the author seems to endorse, which tend to involve means tests, heavy bureaucracy and perverse incentives.

Even worse, the author is a passionate advocate of open borders. Sorry, but open borders are not compatible with a welfare state. You can have one or the other. Trying to have both is a recipe for national bankruptcy. The fact that Europe had open borders from the late 19th century to the beginning of WWI is not an argument. Conditions were very different back then. First, state welfare was much smaller in relation to the size of the economy, second, the overall amount of migration was much lower, and third, populations were much sparser -- there were even places one could migrate to where land was being given away, or sold extremely cheaply, just to attract settlers. Mass migration is not only a problem for countries that receive migrants. It often also a problem for the countries that experience high emigration. It's often the best workers who emigrate, resulting in "brain drain", which has a depressive effect on local economies. Ireland has persistently suffered from this effect since the 19th century, and Eastern Europe is suffering from it quite badly right now.

Another contradiction in this book: as noted earlier, the author is an advocate of wealth redistribution. I presume he means from the rich to the poor, but if so, is he aware that uncontrolled mass immigration drives down wages and drives up rents, which has the effect of redistributing wealth from workers to employers and property-owners? Open borders is incompatible with the goal of creating a more equal society.

So, no. If you want to advocate a universal basic income, fair enough, but don't spoil it by also advocating other measures that would cancel out the benefits.

P.S. At one point, Bregman discusses Robert Putnam's famous study finding that diversity reduces trust in society. He claims Putnam's finding has been debunked, citing a study finding that "African Americans and Latinos report lower levels of trust, regardless of where they live." I wonder why they have low levels of trust. Could it be because they live in high crime neighbourhoods? I wonder who's committing that crime? Are there data on this? Anyway, the argument is that diversity, as long as it doesn't include African Americans and Latinos, doesn't cause the level of trust to go down, and Putnam's finding is therefore a mere artefact. Great. So Putnam is now debunked. What follows? Is Bregman now going to argue that diversity is fine, as long as it doesn't include African Americans and Latinos? That will go down well in the USA. He's shot himself in the foot.

P.P.S., towards the end of the book, Bregman briefly discusses the influence of Friedrick Hayek and Milton Friedman - both "neoliberals" (according to Bregman - Hayek called himself an old-fashioned liberal and Friedman called himself a libertarian), both of whom expressed support for a universal basic income. In fact, the idea is more associated with them than with anyone on the Left. (Marx opposed all ameliorative measures, because he wanted the whole system to fall down catastrophically in a violent revolution.) Bregman does not discuss Hayek's incisive critiques of communism and managerial socialism, never mind his demolition of Keynes' ignorant and muddled nonsense, but instead calls Hayek a "slippery philosopher". Has he read Hayek's "Road to Serfdom"? There's nothing remotely slippery about it. It makes very definite predictions, and these predictions have been confirmed empirically. Has he read "The Fatal Conceit"? If not, he needs to. Especially the part about Keynes' slipperiness.
 
I had to smile, El Burro, when I googled the book and started reading the first reviewer comment, on the guardian review page, I think it was. I gave up reading it eventually. I don’t think they liked the book 🙃

‘A naive and silly book

Reviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on 9 May 2017

In chapter one, the author assays the idea of utopia, but does so incompetently. He looks at three utopias: "Land of Cockaigne", described in various Medieval tales and poems, Campanella's "City of the Sun", and More's "Utopia". According to the author, the first is a wish-fulfillment dream of unlimited wealth, luxury and instant gratification of every lust, the second makes him think of "fascism, Stalinism and genocide". As for the third, he doesn't describe or quote from it it at all, but says More "literally wrote the book on utopia".

In reality, Cockaigne Land, rather than an ideal model, was generally satirical and parodic, mocking, for example, fat, lazy, decadent monks who lived in idle luxury while peasants worked to supply all their needs. As for Campanella's and More's utopias, both are in fact pretty similar to one another (though not identical), and both are *communist*.

Some common features of both utopias:
* Everyone is required to work for the state.
* Idleness is punished.
* Goods are distributed equally to all.
* Equal sharing of work leads to short working hours.
* State-run education ensures children have right values.
* People dress uniformly and plainly.
* Money is not in general use.
* There is slavery.

Some interesting differences:
* In Campanella's city, the family is abolished and there is "community of wives".
* Also, in Campanella's city, there are both male and female magistrates.

The idea of community of wives recurs in socialist and communist writings, including those of Leger-Marie Deschamps, of the Saint-Simonians, and in the most famous communist tract of them all, the manifesto written by Marx and Engels.

How does a person set out to write a book about the idea of utopia manage to miss the fact that Tommaso Campanella's and Thomas More's utopias are communist?

This mistake undermines the central premise of his book. The author claims we've lost the utopian spirit, and need to revive it, but in fact, when we look at the utopias he invokes in evidence, we find that they promised prosperity for all and shorter working hours (and, in the Campanella version, also feminism), and we've got those things. The ordinary masses in the developed world is wealthier than More and Campanella imagined possible, most of us work fewer hours than More and Campanella promised we would, and we don't have slaves, because we have machines. Moreover, not only was this achieved without communism, but communism has turned out to be a disaster which consistently leads to economic failure (to the point of famine) and tyranny -- exactly in the manner predicted with almost uncanny precision by Eugen Fichter in the 19th century dystopian novel, "Pictures of Our Socialistic Future" and explained forensically in Friedrich Hayek's 1943 book, "The Road to Serfdom". Hayek's theory has been confirmed again and again since his book came out -- in Mao's China, the Castros' Cuba, the Kims' Korea, and various other countries including, most recently, Venezuela.

The communist utopia turned out to be a nightmare. Moderate socialist utopias are redundant, because we already have moderate socialism in most of the Western world. Feminist and gay and sexual liberation utopias are similarly redundant. Dystopias, which carry the implicit message, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", are much more germane today. Nevertheless, utopias are still written. They usually lean towards libertarianism, and they're typically published under the rubric of science fiction. The Star Trek franchise is set against a utopian background, in case Mr Bregman hasn't noticed.

Most of the rest of Bregman's book is given over to justifying a guaranteed minimum income, which is a reasonable idea by itself, but not if it is implemented in addition to, rather than instead of, a whole slew of other welfare payments and redistributive policies that the author seems to endorse, which tend to involve means tests, heavy bureaucracy and perverse incentives.

Even worse, the author is a passionate advocate of open borders. Sorry, but open borders are not compatible with a welfare state. You can have one or the other. Trying to have both is a recipe for national bankruptcy. The fact that Europe had open borders from the late 19th century to the beginning of WWI is not an argument. Conditions were very different back then. First, state welfare was much smaller in relation to the size of the economy, second, the overall amount of migration was much lower, and third, populations were much sparser -- there were even places one could migrate to where land was being given away, or sold extremely cheaply, just to attract settlers. Mass migration is not only a problem for countries that receive migrants. It often also a problem for the countries that experience high emigration. It's often the best workers who emigrate, resulting in "brain drain", which has a depressive effect on local economies. Ireland has persistently suffered from this effect since the 19th century, and Eastern Europe is suffering from it quite badly right now.

Another contradiction in this book: as noted earlier, the author is an advocate of wealth redistribution. I presume he means from the rich to the poor, but if so, is he aware that uncontrolled mass immigration drives down wages and drives up rents, which has the effect of redistributing wealth from workers to employers and property-owners? Open borders is incompatible with the goal of creating a more equal society.

So, no. If you want to advocate a universal basic income, fair enough, but don't spoil it by also advocating other measures that would cancel out the benefits.

P.S. At one point, Bregman discusses Robert Putnam's famous study finding that diversity reduces trust in society. He claims Putnam's finding has been debunked, citing a study finding that "African Americans and Latinos report lower levels of trust, regardless of where they live." I wonder why they have low levels of trust. Could it be because they live in high crime neighbourhoods? I wonder who's committing that crime? Are there data on this? Anyway, the argument is that diversity, as long as it doesn't include African Americans and Latinos, doesn't cause the level of trust to go down, and Putnam's finding is therefore a mere artefact. Great. So Putnam is now debunked. What follows? Is Bregman now going to argue that diversity is fine, as long as it doesn't include African Americans and Latinos? That will go down well in the USA. He's shot himself in the foot.

P.P.S., towards the end of the book, Bregman briefly discusses the influence of Friedrick Hayek and Milton Friedman - both "neoliberals" (according to Bregman - Hayek called himself an old-fashioned liberal and Friedman called himself a libertarian), both of whom expressed support for a universal basic income. In fact, the idea is more associated with them than with anyone on the Left. (Marx opposed all ameliorative measures, because he wanted the whole system to fall down catastrophically in a violent revolution.) Bregman does not discuss Hayek's incisive critiques of communism and managerial socialism, never mind his demolition of Keynes' ignorant and muddled nonsense, but instead calls Hayek a "slippery philosopher". Has he read Hayek's "Road to Serfdom"? There's nothing remotely slippery about it. It makes very definite predictions, and these predictions have been confirmed empirically. Has he read "The Fatal Conceit"? If not, he needs to. Especially the part about Keynes' slipperiness.
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I had to smile, El Burro, when I googled the book and started reading the first reviewer comment, on the guardian review page, I think it was. I gave up reading it eventually. I don’t think they liked the book 🙃

‘A naive and silly book

Reviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on 9 May 2017

In chapter one, the author assays the idea of utopia, but does so incompetently. He looks at three utopias: "Land of Cockaigne", described in various Medieval tales and poems, Campanella's "City of the Sun", and More's "Utopia". According to the author, the first is a wish-fulfillment dream of unlimited wealth, luxury and instant gratification of every lust, the second makes him think of "fascism, Stalinism and genocide". As for the third, he doesn't describe or quote from it it at all, but says More "literally wrote the book on utopia".

In reality, Cockaigne Land, rather than an ideal model, was generally satirical and parodic, mocking, for example, fat, lazy, decadent monks who lived in idle luxury while peasants worked to supply all their needs. As for Campanella's and More's utopias, both are in fact pretty similar to one another (though not identical), and both are *communist*.

Some common features of both utopias:
* Everyone is required to work for the state.
* Idleness is punished.
* Goods are distributed equally to all.
* Equal sharing of work leads to short working hours.
* State-run education ensures children have right values.
* People dress uniformly and plainly.
* Money is not in general use.
* There is slavery.

Some interesting differences:
* In Campanella's city, the family is abolished and there is "community of wives".
* Also, in Campanella's city, there are both male and female magistrates.

The idea of community of wives recurs in socialist and communist writings, including those of Leger-Marie Deschamps, of the Saint-Simonians, and in the most famous communist tract of them all, the manifesto written by Marx and Engels.

How does a person set out to write a book about the idea of utopia manage to miss the fact that Tommaso Campanella's and Thomas More's utopias are communist?

This mistake undermines the central premise of his book. The author claims we've lost the utopian spirit, and need to revive it, but in fact, when we look at the utopias he invokes in evidence, we find that they promised prosperity for all and shorter working hours (and, in the Campanella version, also feminism), and we've got those things. The ordinary masses in the developed world is wealthier than More and Campanella imagined possible, most of us work fewer hours than More and Campanella promised we would, and we don't have slaves, because we have machines. Moreover, not only was this achieved without communism, but communism has turned out to be a disaster which consistently leads to economic failure (to the point of famine) and tyranny -- exactly in the manner predicted with almost uncanny precision by Eugen Fichter in the 19th century dystopian novel, "Pictures of Our Socialistic Future" and explained forensically in Friedrich Hayek's 1943 book, "The Road to Serfdom". Hayek's theory has been confirmed again and again since his book came out -- in Mao's China, the Castros' Cuba, the Kims' Korea, and various other countries including, most recently, Venezuela.

The communist utopia turned out to be a nightmare. Moderate socialist utopias are redundant, because we already have moderate socialism in most of the Western world. Feminist and gay and sexual liberation utopias are similarly redundant. Dystopias, which carry the implicit message, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", are much more germane today. Nevertheless, utopias are still written. They usually lean towards libertarianism, and they're typically published under the rubric of science fiction. The Star Trek franchise is set against a utopian background, in case Mr Bregman hasn't noticed.

Most of the rest of Bregman's book is given over to justifying a guaranteed minimum income, which is a reasonable idea by itself, but not if it is implemented in addition to, rather than instead of, a whole slew of other welfare payments and redistributive policies that the author seems to endorse, which tend to involve means tests, heavy bureaucracy and perverse incentives.

Even worse, the author is a passionate advocate of open borders. Sorry, but open borders are not compatible with a welfare state. You can have one or the other. Trying to have both is a recipe for national bankruptcy. The fact that Europe had open borders from the late 19th century to the beginning of WWI is not an argument. Conditions were very different back then. First, state welfare was much smaller in relation to the size of the economy, second, the overall amount of migration was much lower, and third, populations were much sparser -- there were even places one could migrate to where land was being given away, or sold extremely cheaply, just to attract settlers. Mass migration is not only a problem for countries that receive migrants. It often also a problem for the countries that experience high emigration. It's often the best workers who emigrate, resulting in "brain drain", which has a depressive effect on local economies. Ireland has persistently suffered from this effect since the 19th century, and Eastern Europe is suffering from it quite badly right now.

Another contradiction in this book: as noted earlier, the author is an advocate of wealth redistribution. I presume he means from the rich to the poor, but if so, is he aware that uncontrolled mass immigration drives down wages and drives up rents, which has the effect of redistributing wealth from workers to employers and property-owners? Open borders is incompatible with the goal of creating a more equal society.

So, no. If you want to advocate a universal basic income, fair enough, but don't spoil it by also advocating other measures that would cancel out the benefits.

P.S. At one point, Bregman discusses Robert Putnam's famous study finding that diversity reduces trust in society. He claims Putnam's finding has been debunked, citing a study finding that "African Americans and Latinos report lower levels of trust, regardless of where they live." I wonder why they have low levels of trust. Could it be because they live in high crime neighbourhoods? I wonder who's committing that crime? Are there data on this? Anyway, the argument is that diversity, as long as it doesn't include African Americans and Latinos, doesn't cause the level of trust to go down, and Putnam's finding is therefore a mere artefact. Great. So Putnam is now debunked. What follows? Is Bregman now going to argue that diversity is fine, as long as it doesn't include African Americans and Latinos? That will go down well in the USA. He's shot himself in the foot.

P.P.S., towards the end of the book, Bregman briefly discusses the influence of Friedrick Hayek and Milton Friedman - both "neoliberals" (according to Bregman - Hayek called himself an old-fashioned liberal and Friedman called himself a libertarian), both of whom expressed support for a universal basic income. In fact, the idea is more associated with them than with anyone on the Left. (Marx opposed all ameliorative measures, because he wanted the whole system to fall down catastrophically in a violent revolution.) Bregman does not discuss Hayek's incisive critiques of communism and managerial socialism, never mind his demolition of Keynes' ignorant and muddled nonsense, but instead calls Hayek a "slippery philosopher". Has he read Hayek's "Road to Serfdom"? There's nothing remotely slippery about it. It makes very definite predictions, and these predictions have been confirmed empirically. Has he read "The Fatal Conceit"? If not, he needs to. Especially the part about Keynes' slipperiness.

It's a fair review in a way - the ideas expressed in the book are utopian (perhaps naïve) and in some cases contradictory and very likely unworkable in a lot of cases.
However there is a review of research into some of the ideas and this is much more interesting. It may well be that the author cherry picked the studies that he quotes, I expect that every author does this to a certain extent.
In the context of this thread, the research that he mentions involved giving homeless people large amounts of money randomly. And it kind of works as an intervention according to the research cited (as does the universal minimum wage). This result goes against what many of us would think (including myself). I thought that giving homeless people large amounts of cash would result in prolonged drink and drugs binges. A lot of the subjects managed to turn their lives around. It could actually be cheaper and more effective than what we are doing now.
 
correct 👍🏻 Add in to the fact that when illegal immigrants move into these four star hotels at tax payers expense all the hard working staff are laid off, sometimes with just a days notice, probably forcing more People onto the streets 🙁
What evidence do you have for this nonsense?

Fact?
 
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