Smacking kids

Matesrates said:
Banned in wales now, why isn’t it here? No reasonable person should hit their kids.
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Would those keen on smacking kids be happy if their boss came up to them at work and smacked them for mucking about?

After all, it never did you any harm?
 
Sometimes I feel like hitting other kids parents.

Why, when you take your kid to a pub or restaurant do you let your kids run around and cause havoc?
If you don't let them run around you resort to the old faithful, an ipad.
Consequently you then have to listen to the game the child is playing on full volume or episodes of pepper pig or Dora the pissing explorer!!

Your children are your responsibility look after them in a reasonable manner so other can enjoy their time.
 
As a society these are the things where we can state we have actually progressed.

Now if only we can stop parents bringing their children up as hedonists where they feel their role as a parent is to provide 24/7 joy as opposed to providing the child with a clear understanding of what is un acceptable behaviour as a human being.

The comment about kids running wild in pubs etc is so true. The child is enjoying their unrestricted right to do what ever they want.
 
Teenagers particularly are a new level of hedonistic. Unless they are gaining instant gratification they are immediately deeply unhappy with their situation.

Problem is, education and work is far from gratifying so they feel depressed by the whole situation as they’re not having pleasure whilst doing it. Social media tells them that Logan Paul or Kanye have pleasure every day at work so why can’t they?
 
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Tough subject these days, clearly nobody wants to see it or do it. That said I’m from a generation where if I stepped out of line I got a good hiding and as such it thought me to respect my parents. Children no longer fear anything or anyone and know all the rules. Parenting is a very different job these days.
 
Scaramanga said:
Tough subject these days, clearly nobody wants to see it or do it. That said I’m from a generation where if I stepped out of line I got a good hiding and as such it thought me to respect my parents. Children no longer fear anything or anyone and know all the rules. Parenting is a very different job these days.
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I think there's a difference between a rap on the back of the legs and a "good hiding" what constitutes a good hiding Scara?

A smack on the hand or legs imo is perfectly acceptable.
What isn't acceptable is a punch, kick or smack with ferocity.

The anti smackers generalise that anyone who does smack is a victorian Dad and maybe uses an iron bar to chastise their children.

I got smaked once off my father the whole of my childhood and knew that if I did anything wrong again. I'd get the same treatment. Did I ever do anything wrong from that day? Of course I did but it was more down to luck that my parents found out.

As has been said in earlier threads today's kids have very little respect for anyone, including themselves. And the majority of todays parents havent even grasped the situation of how to parent in general not just in how your child behaves. It's a sad state of affairs 🥺😕
 
Scaramanga said:
Tough subject these days, clearly nobody wants to see it or do it. That said I’m from a generation where if I stepped out of line I got a good hiding and as such it thought me to respect my parents. Children no longer fear anything or anyone and know all the rules. Parenting is a very different job these days.
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Scaramanga. It taught me to hate my dad, and vow never to be like him.
 
Wizzerboy said:
As has been said in earlier threads today's kids have very little respect for anyone, including themselves. And the majority of todays parents havent even grasped the situation of how to parent in general not just in how your child behaves. It's a sad state of affairs 🥺😕
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I really couldn't disagree with this more. I find the kids of today too respectful. Most are more vanilla than Gary Lineker and have been over-conditioned through non-physical means. The problem is too much parenting, there is little room for personal growth. I wouldn't be seen dead out with my folks until much older (adulthood) but the kids of today are very much wet behind the ears still.
 
rockontommy said:
I really couldn't disagree with this more. I find the kids of today too respectful. Most are more vanilla than Gary Lineker and have been over-conditioned through non-physical means. The problem is too much parenting, there is little room for personal growth. I wouldn't be seen dead out with my folks until much older (adulthood) but the kids of today are very much wet behind the ears still.
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OK, we'll agree to disagree👍🏻
 
Fair enough, Scaramanga. My dad used to slap my mum around, too. It was the norm in a lot of households. It taught me that violence is the last resort of the incompetent.
Scaramanga said:
I deserved it, so no need to hate my dad. He was a good bloke and still is. My mum was worse to be fair 😄😄
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Discojohndeary said:
Fair enough, Scaramanga. My dad used to slap my mum around, too. It was the norm in a lot of households. It taught me that violence is the last resort of the incompetent.
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I think that’s completely different Disco, I also had to deal with a step dad that was apiece of shit. Getting a good hiding for being naughty and getting an absolute seeing to just for being there is a little different. I get where your coming from but in m6 experience just a little different.
 
The rolled up newspaper, or the threat of it, was enough for me at home, the cane at junior school and the leather strap at grammar school were a different level altogether, nuns and brothers, supposed to promote kindness.
 
Got many a beating at Blackpool Grammer in the early 1960’s. Teacher by the name of Ken Topham punched me all the way down 3 flights of stairs for wearing a mohair jumper. Told him “it didn’t hurt sir“ so he whacked me across the face hard!
Got many a beating and regularly caned by Reverend Luft the Headmaster, although he missed my hand many times as I was too quick for him! Ended up with the Deputy head holding my arm so I couldn’t move my hand out of the way!
Suppose I was a bit of a rebel and probably deserved all I got!
Never once hit by my parents, perhaps I should have been!
 
Wizzerboy said:
I think there's a difference between a rap on the back of the legs and a "good hiding" what constitutes a good hiding Scara?

A smack on the hand or legs imo is perfectly acceptable.
What isn't acceptable is a punch, kick or smack with ferocity.

The anti smackers generalise that anyone who does smack is a victorian Dad and maybe uses an iron bar to chastise their children.

I got smaked once off my father the whole of my childhood and knew that if I did anything wrong again. I'd get the same treatment. Did I ever do anything wrong from that day? Of course I did but it was more down to luck that my parents found out.

As has been said in earlier threads today's kids have very little respect for anyone, including themselves. And the majority of todays parents havent even grasped the situation of how to parent in general not just in how your child behaves. It's a sad state of affairs 🥺😕
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My old man never touched me but I got a few good slaps on the arse or legs from mom. 😂 It seems no matter how parents attempt to discipline their kids somebody always cries abuse.
 
EagleDay said:
My old man never touched me but I got a few good slaps on the arse or legs from mom. It seems no matter how parents attempt to discipline their kids somebody always cries abuse.
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As I said, if you were at work and made a mistake would you expect a slap? If it's not reasonable for adults, why is it for kids?
 
CAGU said:
Got many a beating at Blackpool Grammer in the early 1960’s. Teacher by the name of Ken Topham punched me all the way down 3 flights of stairs for wearing a mohair jumper. Told him “it didn’t hurt sir“ so he whacked me across the face hard!
Got many a beating and regularly caned by Reverend Luft the Headmaster, although he missed my hand many times as I was too quick for him! Ended up with the Deputy head holding my arm so I couldn’t move my hand out of the way!
Suppose I was a bit of a rebel and probably deserved all I got!
Never once hit by my parents, perhaps I should have been!
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Cagu. The Grammar school was just the same in the 70s- a haven for institutionalised sadism. Kecks down, arse fondled, run-up, leather strap. No, we didn't deserve it, by and large. My usual offence was being gobby or not doing my homework.
 
Scaramanga said:
I think that’s completely different Disco, I also had to deal with a step dad that was apiece of shit. Getting a good hiding for being naughty and getting an absolute seeing to just for being there is a little different. I get where your coming from but in m6 experience just a little different.
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Giving your offspring "a good hiding" is a cowardly admission of failure in any circumstances. Unless, of course, they're big enough to hit you back. This, very surprisingly, rarely happens. The moment my dad realised I was strong enough to do him some damage, the beatings stopped. Odd, isn't it?
 
I am not a total believer in smacking kids, although as the old saying goes, it did me no harm.

However, there are times when a tap on the wrists or fingers can save a child from hurting itself, and I take it this will also now be banned.

There appears to have been an upsurge in child cruelty with three recent cases hitting the headlines, Star Hobson, Arthur Labino Hughes and more recently Kyrell Matthews, and the vociferous few who want a complete ban will use this sort of case to promote their agenda. I would argue that to make a child sit at the foot of the stairs, face the wall or any other form of non-physical punishment is akin to smacking, not tapping and it appears that this sort of punishment is the forerunner, in a lot of cases, where the child ultimately suffers from severe beatings. Take the words of poor little Arthur, 'nobody loves me', whilst dragging his bedding behind him. Those words haunt me, when I read about child abuse.

Very young children particularly, at times, need to know the parameters of what is acceptable and what is not, and in my view, a small tap on the hand can say an awful lot more than a dictionary full of words, which the child will not fully understand.
 
Curryman said:
I am not a total believer in smacking kids, although as the old saying goes, it did me no harm.

However, there are times when a tap on the wrists or fingers can save a child from hurting itself, and I take it this will also now be banned.

There appears to have been an upsurge in child cruelty with three recent cases hitting the headlines, Star Hobson, Arthur Labino Hughes and more recently Kyrell Matthews, and the vociferous few who want a complete ban will use this sort of case to promote their agenda. I would argue that to make a child sit at the foot of the stairs, face the wall or any other form of non-physical punishment is akin to smacking, not tapping and it appears that this sort of punishment is the forerunner, in a lot of cases, where the child ultimately suffers from severe beatings. Take the words of poor little Arthur, 'nobody loves me', whilst dragging his bedding behind him. Those words haunt me, when I read about child abuse.

Very young children particularly, at times, need to know the parameters of what is acceptable and what is not, and in my view, a small tap on the hand can say an awful lot more than a dictionary full of words, which the child will not fully understand.
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I've seen a lot of comments by self-proclaimed experts who describe non-physical discipline as child (psychological) abuse. If all these things are banned how do you teach a child right from wrong, as you say "a dictionary full of words, which the child will not fully understand."
 
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If a child is old enough to understand reason then smacking shouldn't be tolerated. Smacking another adult (no matter what the provocation) is deemed physical assault so what's the difference? If a child is too young to understand reason then they won't understand why they've been smacked. It's awful parenting hitting kids. I see the arguments above that "it's not surprising kids are out of control" in my experience children are far better behaved than my generation growing up in the 70s or 80s.
 
We watch Attenboroughs show with lots of animals, twatting the young to keep them in line, & a small smack on the back of the legs to give them a start in my humble opinion is OK, not to belt them, like I got from my Mum as a kid...

I expect Plod at my door imminently
 
Limechase said:
We watch Attenboroughs show with lots of animals, twatting the young to keep them in line, & a small smack on the back of the legs to give them a start in my humble opinion is OK, not to belt them, like I got from my Mum as a kid...

I expect Plod at my door imminently
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Whereupon Plod will tear you limb from limb, strip the flesh from your carcass, and feed it to their young. The offspring will compete for the food, and those too weak to take their pickings will be left to die of hunger, expelled from the nest, or eaten by their siblings. Just like Attenborough. No slur on Plod intended, btw.
 
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