Some 9/11 stuff doesn't makes sense

Metropolis

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How did a 22 year old kid with 13 hours flight experience crash a huge plane straight into the Pentagon? Have you ever looked out of the window from a plane at 20,000 feet, you struggle to make anything out let alone fly a plane into it with no experience. This lad hit the building perfectly (for want of a better word) without so much as damaging the front lawn. A weird one for sure
 
Is the Pentagon 20,000 ft high or something?
You're a weird one, that's for sure. Welcome back to the board btw. Here to stir the pot no doubt.
 
How did a 22 year old kid with 13 hours flight experience crash a huge plane straight into the Pentagon? Have you ever looked out of the window from a plane at 20,000 feet, you struggle to make anything out let alone fly a plane into it with no experience. This lad hit the building perfectly (for want of a better word) without so much as damaging the front lawn. A weird one for sure
The pilots had training in the US and had gained licenses, this was literally all over the news.

The hijackers on American Airlines Flight 77 were led by Hani Hanjour, who piloted the aircraft into the Pentagon.[1] Hanjour first arrived in the United States in 1990.[2]

Hanjour trained at the CRM Airline Training Center in Scottsdale, Arizona, earning his FAA commercial pilot's certificate in April 1999.[3] He had wanted to be a commercial pilot for Saudia but was rejected when he applied to the civil aviation school in Jeddah in 1999.
 
i'd hazard a pretty accurate guess that when he flew the plane into the Pentagon he wasn't flying at 20,000 ft. In fact he'd have been pretty much down at sea level. The o/p states about looking out of the window at 20,000 ft and seeing nothing which is pretty obvious. But by the time the plane got to Washington e wouldn't have been at 20000 ft would he?
 
You can see the Pentagon quite easily from 20,000 feet on a clear day. I assume that one of the reasons they didn't go for the White House was that it was much more difficult to identify from the air (lot smaller and less distinct) and pretty difficult to fly into as there are a lot more surrounding structures. The Capitol building, being considerably larger and in an elevated position away from other buildings, was an easier taget to fly into than the White House.
 
You can see the Pentagon quite easily from 20,000 feet on a clear day. I assume that one of the reasons they didn't go for the White House was that it was much more difficult to identify from the air (lot smaller and less distinct) and pretty difficult to fly into as there are a lot more surrounding structures. The Capitol building, being considerably larger and in an elevated position away from other buildings, was an easier taget to fly into than the White House.
They didn't even have to see it to locate it, they weren't amateurs.
 
The part of an engine for the wrong type of plane that hit on the floor outside was a bit of a giveaway.
 
How did a 22 year old kid with 13 hours flight experience crash a huge plane straight into the Pentagon? Have you ever looked out of the window from a plane at 20,000 feet, you struggle to make anything out let alone fly a plane into it with no experience. This lad hit the building perfectly (for want of a better word) without so much as damaging the front lawn. A weird one for sure

It was actually flown in and crashed by Lord Lieutenant Zargon from the planet Zumlagalaga. I thought everyone knew that.
 
Is the Pentagon 20,000 ft high or something?
You're a weird one, that's for sure. Welcome back to the board btw. Here to stir the pot no doubt.
I was asking a simple question. At least Lytham_FY8 had the decency to provide some good evidence and be civil. The fact that Hani Hanjour is still alive today is not the key point just yet.
 
Theres were certainly some oddities and convenient things that happened with 911.

The way despite huge fires, buildings coming down they managed to find the passport to identify one of them 2 blocks away having luckily survived the inferno intact, seemed a bit convenient.

America wanted to go to war for the oil and this event tipped the balance of opinion in favour of it.

Uk was desperate to join them too, look at the fabricated claims to get us there, the 45 minutes claim, WMD nonsense and remember dr David Kelly's suicide....

Hmmm.
 
I could tell you that this picture isn't from the Pentagon crash site,,,and you wouldn't have a clue as it has zero points of reference.

it's been proven time and time again that it's a totally different crash area,
If you do a reverse Google image search you will see that it's been debunked.......Funnily.....every September for the last 15+ years

This same image turns up again and again from sites who say 9/11 was a fake blatantly using it without checking
Then other sites start to investigate and they found out it was a photo from a totally different crash site...but people keep using it.... 🤔

You can read all about it on the American publications like: Popular Mechanics
There's books, video's etc answering every aspect of the crash and showing 'scientifically' how the crash happened.
 
I could tell you that this picture isn't from the Pentagon crash site,,,and you wouldn't have a clue as it has zero points of reference.

it's been proven time and time again that it's a totally different crash area,
If you do a reverse Google image search you will see that it's been debunked.......Funnily.....every September for the last 15+ years

This same image turns up again and again from sites who say 9/11 was a fake blatantly using it without checking
Then other sites start to investigate and they found out it was a photo from a totally different crash site...but people keep using it.... 🤔

You can read all about it on the American publications like: Popular Mechanics
There's books, video's etc answering every aspect of the crash and showing 'scientifically' how the crash happened.
You're wasting your time with zealots.
 
Theres were certainly some oddities and convenient things that happened with 911.

The way despite huge fires, buildings coming down they managed to find the passport to identify one of them 2 blocks away having luckily survived the inferno intact, seemed a bit convenient.

America wanted to go to war for the oil and this event tipped the balance of opinion in favour of it.

Uk was desperate to join them too, look at the fabricated claims to get us there, the 45 minutes claim, WMD nonsense and remember dr David Kelly's suicide....

Hmmm.
Seems a bit over the top to start a war, they could have just bombed one of their embassies out there instead of murdering thousands of their own civilians in broad daylight with a complex/fantastical plot involving holograms, explosives etc...

Or, as you mention, they could have just falsified some intelligence, like they did with Iraq.

They were also already at war in the region only a decade earlier but decided to pull out.
 
Seems a bit over the top to start a war, they could have just bombed one of their embassies out there instead of murdering thousands of their own civilians in broad daylight with a complex/fantastical plot involving holograms, explosives etc...

Or, as you mention, they could have just falsified some intelligence, like they did with Iraq.

They were also already at war in the region only a decade earlier but decided to pull out.
I never said on what level they may or may not have been involved, but as mentioned with the blame game, it could just have been using a situation that happened legitimately and using that as the perfect excuse for the Iraq invasion.

The UK, or some part of it, was willing to fake documents. Who know what the US would do.

One things for sure, in the supposed most secure airspace in the world it was a woeful response.
 
I never said on what level they may or may not have been involved, but as mentioned with the blame game, it could just have been using a situation that happened legitimately and using that as the perfect excuse for the Iraq invasion.

The UK, or some part of it, was willing to fake documents. Who know what the US would do.

One things for sure, in the supposed most secure airspace in the world it was a woeful response.
Oh I absolutely believe they used it as an excuse with some forged documents to invade Iraq, it doesn't mean anything to do with 9/11 was a conspiracy though.
 
What were the suspect things for you?
Loads of stuff really…

But a few that spring to mind..

The miracle passport

The fact Jewish owner had adjusted insurance and neither him or significant family members were present at WTC that day (highly unusual apparently)

The collapse of three buildings (especially building 7)

The mysterious mobile phone calls
 
The fact Jewish owner had adjusted insurance and neither him or significant family members were present at WTC that day (highly unusual apparently)

What has that got to do with anything? The mask slips ever so slightly?

I’ll reword your conspiracy theory post so it isn’t anti Semitic. The fact the owner had adjusted the insurance……:.
 
Loads of stuff really…

But a few that spring to mind..

The miracle passport

The fact Jewish owner had adjusted insurance and neither him or significant family members were present at WTC that day (highly unusual apparently)

The collapse of three buildings (especially building 7)

The mysterious mobile phone calls
All 3 still the only steel frame buildings to collapse in history due to fire and they also collapsed in free fall, which only ever happens with demolition.
Building 7 is the key to any conspiracy though as it was not impacted by anything.
Far taller buildings have burned for days and not collapsed and again it went down in freefall.
I wouldn't say I am a conspiracy theorist but I have taken the time to watch as much as I can about that day.
There is a lot of stuff that I find very strange and not explained well enough and the official report dodged so much stuff.

Edit: Building 7 collapse was reported prematurely by some news outlets.
 
Building 7 collapsed after taking 100 floors or so from two buildings. Then being ravaged by fire for 8 hours. It’s not that hard even for you times 3.

I seem to recall something about it being extremely unusual for a single building of this design to collapse, let alone 3. (And of course, building 7 collapsed in quite different circumstances to the other two buildings).

What has that got to do with anything? The mask slips ever so slightly?

I’ll reword your conspiracy theory post so it isn’t anti Semitic. The fact the owner had adjusted the insurance……:.
It has quite a lot to do with it really… There was some suggestion that the Israeli state might have been involved or aware of the incident in advance and there was (I understand) a relevant connection..
 
It has quite a lot to do with it really… There was some suggestion that the Israeli state might have been involved or aware of the incident in advance and there was (I understand) a relevant connection..
Unbelievable.

Fuck it just casual racism. 😂

You’re utter scum.
 

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TangerTonyGreen said:
Building 7 collapsed after taking 100 floors or so from two buildings. Then being ravaged by fire for 8 hours. It’s not that hard even for you times 3.
I seem to recall something about it being extremely unusual for a single building of this design to collapse, let alone 3. (And of course, building 7 collapsed in quite different circumstances to the other two buildings).

So a building attached to another building with 110+ floors, and another one close by with 110+ floors.
Both of which collapse and the baby building should survive.😂😂😂
 

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I seem to recall something about it being extremely unusual for a single building of this design to collapse, let alone 3. (And of course, building 7 collapsed in quite different circumstances to the other two buildings).

So a building attached to another building with 110+ floors, and another one close by with 110+ floors.
Both of which collapse and the baby building should survive.😂😂😂
Building 7 was not attached and was barely damaged and if you took to look at every view of this disaster you might be surprised. I certainly was.
 

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I seem to recall something about it being extremely unusual for a single building of this design to collapse, let alone 3. (And of course, building 7 collapsed in quite different circumstances to the other two buildings).

So a building attached to another building with 110+ floors, and another one close by with 110+ floors.
Both of which collapse and the baby building should survive.😂😂😂
It wasnt attached to those buildings. 88 steel beams all failed at the same time allowing the building to fall at freefall speed. You know that doesn't make any sense and has never happened EVER in the history of building fires? Look at Grenfell tower, burned for days and didn't collapse, why not?
 

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I seem to recall something about it being extremely unusual for a single building of this design to collapse, let alone 3. (And of course, building 7 collapsed in quite different circumstances to the other two buildings).

So a building attached to another building with 110+ floors, and another one close by with 110+ floors.
Both of which collapse and the baby building should survive.😂😂😂
I’m not sure I suggested the building should ‘survive’, just that it was unusual for the other two to have collapsed as they did, let alone building 7 to follow suit.

As someone else stated before this was a unique event for one building, let alone 3.

I’m not sure what being the smaller building has to do with anything really. It wasn’t hit by a flying aircraft or subject to the same physical pressure or fire accelerant.
 
Building 7 was not attached and was barely damaged and if you took to look at every view of this disaster you might be surprised. I certainly was.
Fair enough I’ve not got that involved myself, I just get the feeling if two buildings with 110+ floors collapse there will be some damage on the side.😉
 
Fair enough I’ve not got that involved myself, I just get the feeling if two buildings with 110+ floors collapse there will be some damage on the side.😉
Fire is solely to blame and if you read my post further up with fire and collapse facts you could be surprised.
 
Did the owner of Building 7 not say in an interview on the day they made he decision to pull it?

Always found it weird how there’s only one image of the impact at the Pentagon… the epicentre of American intelligence and the CCTV wasn’t working that day.

Maybe I’m wrong on the above but seems as strange as finding the pilot’s passport in the rubble.
 
An aircraft did NOT hit the Pentagon. A missile maybe?

How come one of the World's most secure buildings only had one blurry security camera to record the incident?
 
It wasnt attached to those buildings. 88 steel beams all failed at the same time allowing the building to fall at freefall speed. You know that doesn't make any sense and has never happened EVER in the history of building fires? Look at Grenfell tower, burned for days and didn't collapse, why not?
Because Grenfell didn't have high powered explosives planted on every floor by the CIA a month prior.
 
“I’m not sure what being the smaller building has to do with anything really. It wasn’t hit by a flying aircraft or subject to the same physical pressure or fire accelerant.”

What part of 220+ floors collapsing on a building don’t you get?😂
 
An aircraft did NOT hit the Pentagon. A missile maybe?

How come one of the World's most secure buildings only had one blurry security camera to record the incident?
That camera was from the local gas station. There are at least 25 things across all the tragedies that day that make little sense, and that's why people won't let it go. Whether an independent investigation is ever permitted, or whether there is enough evidence preserved to disprove the official narrative, we may never know. If it was odd Bob in his bedroom on YouTube saying all this then I could well understand people trying to shut the argument down, but over 3,600 Architects, scientists, structural engineers, professors and bomb disposal experts from around the world are constantly pushing for an independent investigation because they don't believe the evidence points to what is being said.
 
“I’m not sure what being the smaller building has to do with anything really. It wasn’t hit by a flying aircraft or subject to the same physical pressure or fire accelerant.”

What part of 220+ floors collapsing on a building don’t you get?😂
220 floors didn't collapse on any building, not one floor touched WTC7, and if you ever wondered why the pile of debris from 2 x 1550ft towers wasnt very big, it's because they said that each floor was pulverise into dust on the way down. So, what you're saying is dust brought a 47 story building down at freefall speed?
 
It wasnt attached to those buildings. 88 steel beams all failed at the same time allowing the building to fall at freefall speed. You know that doesn't make any sense and has never happened EVER in the history of building fires? Look at Grenfell tower, burned for days and didn't collapse, why not?
 
220 floors didn't collapse on any building, not one floor touched WTC7, and if you ever wondered why the pile of debris from 2 x 1550ft towers wasnt very big, it's because they said that each floor was pulverise into dust on the way down. So, what you're saying is dust brought a 47 story building down at freefall speed?
No collateral damage whatsoever? Amazing.
 
“I’m not sure what being the smaller building has to do with anything really. It wasn’t hit by a flying aircraft or subject to the same physical pressure or fire accelerant.”

What part of 220+ floors collapsing on a building don’t you get?😂
But 220 floors didn’t collapse on it… So I don’t get that bit in particular
 
No collateral damage whatsoever? Amazing.
Yes plenty of collateral damage, just not what would cause a 47 storey building to drop at freefall speed. Have you seen the footage of that btw? For something to fall at thay speed there has to be zero resistance. That means that all 88 footings had to be removed at exactly the same time. Even if fire had melted some of the beams, and the temperatures weren't high enough for that, the building would have toppled over, not dropped like a stone.
 
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