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As evatt said they are low on confidence, booing them really isn’t going to help our cause as it is

You can tell he’s trying to sort it out and how passionate he is about doing so. Anyone wanting Evatt out is quite frankly an idiot - what would another manager achieve with these sets of players?

If it gets toxic, it’ll set in even more and then we are doomed as that is extremely hard to get out of it.

Need to make sure Evatt and the boys get our full support, and play our part. we are the 12th man, and if a club becomes toxic, then the 12th man is just about as good as us playing with 10 men.
 
Anyone wanting Evatt out already needs to politely fuck off. He must be tearing his hair out at how bad some of the players are. He needs to get through to the January window, tell Downes to fuck off and go out and get some decent players that are capable of playing football.

BPF, Rav, Evans, CJ, Ihiekwe, Hansson, Brown, Honeyman, Coulson, Lyons, Bloxham and Banks all need to be replaced.
 
SouthernSeasider said:
As evatt said they are low on confidence, booing them really isn’t going to help our cause as it is

You can tell he’s trying to sort it out and how passionate he is about doing so. Anyone wanting Evatt out is quite frankly an idiot - what would another manager achieve with these sets of players?

If it gets toxic, it’ll set in even more and then we are doomed as that is extremely hard to get out of it.

Need to make sure Evatt and the boys get our full support, and play our part. we are the 12th man, and if a club becomes toxic, then the 12th man is just about as good as us playing with 10 men.
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Who wants him out,I don’t,I would just like him to tell the supporters what a mess we are in,instead of telling us what he thinks we want to hear.

He stated yesterday,that he wanted a performance that night,he didn’t get it.
He needs to start on the training ground.Players are not playing has a team,don’t want to work,won’t fight for each other,there is a lot wrong.
Who brought these players to the club,they not better than the players we let go.
 
Seasideforever said:
There is nothing more guaranteed to make things worse than booing the team ,by all means don’t clap or walk out if you have to but please don’t boo your own players it’s football suicide !!!
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I was at Harrogate last night; as they left the field today we got a couple of half-hearted claps from two or three players, most barely managed a glance at the fans.

If the players are too cowardly to acknowledge the couple of hundred people who travelled in the dark to the middle of Yorkshire, to watch us go 3-0 down after 15 minutes, they deserve the boos they got.

Those players don't respect the club or the badge, why should we show them anything but the same?
 
SouthernSeasider said:
As evatt said they are low on confidence, booing them really isn’t going to help our cause as it is

You can tell he’s trying to sort it out and how passionate he is about doing so. Anyone wanting Evatt out is quite frankly an idiot - what would another manager achieve with these sets of players?

If it gets toxic, it’ll set in even more and then we are doomed as that is extremely hard to get out of it.

Need to make sure Evatt and the boys get our full support, and play our part. we are the 12th man, and if a club becomes toxic, then the 12th man is just about as good as us playing with 10 men.
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Totally agree , if you can’t support our team when we lose or draw , then don’t support them when we win , UTMP
 
Too early to boo, well maybe not, dunno.

What's worse is having a season ticket and choosing to still not go. Things have to be bad to not even want to get value from your 400 quid purchase. I'm at that point sadly.
 
Tangerine one said:
Totally agree , if you can’t support our team when we lose or draw , then don’t support them when we win , UTMP
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not quite that simple though is it - a number of the so called players are passionless and go through the motions. Whilst booing isn’t the answer and never is some of these lot certainly don’t deserve any applause!
 
The bare minimum is 100% effort. I can forgive mistakes and limited ability, but never a lack of effort. The players can hide behind confidence all they like, some are not giving their all and for that they deserve to hear fans discontent. All I would say, is it is counter productive to boo players during a game, if you do need to vent, leave it until the useless set of cretins have lost.
 
SouthernSeasider said:
As evatt said they are low on confidence, booing them really isn’t going to help our cause as it is

You can tell he’s trying to sort it out and how passionate he is about doing so. Anyone wanting Evatt out is quite frankly an idiot - what would another manager achieve with these sets of players?

If it gets toxic, it’ll set in even more and then we are doomed as that is extremely hard to get out of it.

Need to make sure Evatt and the boys get our full support, and play our part. we are the 12th man, and if a club becomes toxic, then the 12th man is just about as good as us playing with 10 men.
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Yep, as poor as some have been, since Evatt came in weve had our first real dip, although last night was playing 2nd choice keeper and non midfielders in midfield to give them minutes, so wouldn't have happened the same with 1st choice people there.

If fans of the club abandon them after the first tough time (since Evatt came in) but are expecting the players to keep believing and giving their all when fans for life arent, that's not going to inspire them to perform better is it.

No-one is saying we should be happy about it, but give them support on the pitch, that's the best chance we have.
 
NewburyOne said:
The bare minimum is 100% effort. I can forgive mistakes and limited ability, but never a lack of effort. The players can hide behind confidence all they like, some are not giving their all and for that they deserve to hear fans discontent. All I would say, is it is counter productive to boo players during a game, if you do need to vent, leave it until the useless set of cretins have lost.
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Generally, since Evatt came in, we've seen the same players giving their all, but have seen some quality lacking and also some being low on confidence and falling back to a safe scared approach, which he’s trying to turn into being more fearless.

The players we've had available have been played a lot because there was little choice, so some have been flogged a bit more than would be ideal, that also probably has an impact.

Luckily others are returning soon so we can use them and freshen it up a bit too.
 
They were getting booed the minute they went 1-0 down against Reading against the run of play. It's no wonder half of them can't be arsed putting a shift in for us.
 
Wizzerboy said:
Well the support so far hasn't been rewarded with anything to shout about this season, bar Cardiff.
Will being more vociferous in our support help in any way?
Not whilst you've players out there that don't give a shite.
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I genuinely do think it'll help.

Another poster spoke about in another thread, the players look scared. Scared to make a pass, scared to take a risk. When the fans groan and/or boo if anything negative happens, it doesn't help.

Sarcastically clapping and cheering players who have been subbed is a proper dick move, too.

If I was a player and the fans were giving me non-stop grief, I'd shut up shop and take my weekly wage, too.

And that's how you get stuck in a rut.
 
JJpool said:
Generally, since Evatt came in, we've seen the same players giving their all, but have seen some quality lacking and also some being low on confidence and falling back to a safe scared approach, which he’s trying to turn into being more fearless.

The players we've had available have been played a lot because there was little choice, so some have been flogged a bit more than would be ideal, that also probably has an impact.

Luckily others are returning soon so we can use them and freshen it up a bit too.
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If Burton, Orient 1st half, Reading and last night is them giving their all, we are fecked. I'm just not having it though, some look like they couldn't care less. Hardly any of them ran their socks off last night. They deserve all the stick they are getting, if they can't handle it, they are more than welcome to rip up their contracts and sod off.
 
OxfordTangerine said:
I genuinely do think it'll help.

Another poster spoke about in another thread, the players look scared. Scared to make a pass, scared to take a risk. When the fans groan and/or boo if anything negative happens, it doesn't help.

Sarcastically clapping and cheering players who have been subbed is a proper dick move, too.

If I was a player and the fans were giving me non-stop grief, I'd shut up shop and take my weekly wage, too.

And that's how you get stuck in a rut.
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Don't be scared to take a shot, don't be scared to make that decisive pass and especially don't be scared to get stuck in. At least it would show their having a go.
Yeh, it hurts when we get beat but it's the manner in which we're getting beaten that hurts more than anything else.
All I ask as a Blackpool supporter is 100% effort and pride in the shirt.
Until I get that the players can keep sulking like a spoiled school kid
 
Im a paying customer, that isnt getting what I paid for, booing is the only way I can get through to the overpaid little prima donnas, when they start trying, I'll applaud them.... They started it...
 
SpionKop said:
not quite that simple though is it - a number of the so called players are passionless and go through the motions. Whilst booing isn’t the answer and never is some of these lot certainly don’t deserve any applause!
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I agree it’s not , we all get annoyed when we lose but I think sometimes people go too far with how they vent their frustrations (myself included) but let’s not forget we boycotted the club for 5 years to bring about change, which we have , and as bad as things might seem I am still happy with what Simon has done for the club and is still trying to do , EVO has just started the task and I’m sure we will improve under him it just takes time , better times ahead next year UTMP
 
Dembele, was the last player I recall, to take s player on, and win some space, now its, just pass it to the back, keeper, across the back, back to the keeper, who just boots it.....
 
There was, understandably, some booing at the end, but from frustration with the performance and it stopped as the players came over at the end.

During the game, the fans were supportive throughout.
 
NewburyOne said:
If Burton, Orient 1st half, Reading and last night is them giving their all, we are fecked. I'm just not having it though, some look like they couldn't care less. Hardly any of them ran their socks off last night. They deserve all the stick they are getting, if they can't handle it, they are more than welcome to rip up their contracts and sod off.
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Many of them have been trying in most games bit have lacked quality, you're going to get times they revert, but also if we've faced adversity it's like it drains that energy, any optimism and confidence goes and is hard to turn round.

Reading we were the better side until that poor moment and then the confidence went.

I'm not going to judge last night as it was a team without really a recognised midfield and with our number 2 who may have been at fault for some of those goals, we were then gar better 2nd half.

Let's see what we can do Sunday and if we win we're in the hat for a potential good cup draw.
 
Limechase said:
Dembele, was the last player I recall, to take s player on, and win some space, now its, just pass it to the back, keeper, across the back, back to the keeper, who just boots it.....
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Banks does that. Beat three last night and hit the post for starters.
 
JJpool said:
Many of them have been trying in most games bit have lacked quality, you're going to get times they revert, but also if we've faced adversity it's like it drains that energy, any optimism and confidence goes and is hard to turn round.

Reading we were the better side until that poor moment and then the confidence went.

I'm not going to judge last night as it was a team without really a recognised midfield and with our number 2 who may have been at fault for some of those goals, we were then gar better 2nd half.

Let's see what we can do Sunday and if we win we're in the hat for a potential good cup draw.
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I totally understand the confidence issue, the only way to get that is by winning games. The best way to win games is to out train, out prepare and out work the opposition, we quite simply don't do that. We have square pegs in round holes, players ambling around clueless and consistently making the most basic of errors. Let's be honest, even with confidence, this lot wouldn't be good enough. Evatt has a massive job on his hands, he desperately needs additional quality, both in ability and character. Hopefully getting some of the injured players back will be a start and January will allow a few in that can at least drag us to safety. We can then assess things in the summer.
 
Evo needs to play them in their correct positions and if they’re still not putting in enough effort or making any meaningful contribution, start replacing from the youth team until January.
 
NewburyOne said:
I totally understand the confidence issue, the only way to get that is by winning games. The best way to win games is to out train, out prepare and out work the opposition, we quite simply don't do that. We have square pegs in round holes, players ambling around clueless and consistently making the most basic of errors. Let's be honest, even with confidence, this lot wouldn't be good enough. Evatt has a massive job on his hands, he desperately needs additional quality, both in ability and character. Hopefully getting some of the injured players back will be a start and January will allow a few in that can at least drag us to safety. We can then assess things in the summer.
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So we don't out train? We've been training far better and more professionally.

We have been out working sides in some of the games, depends how the games went. It's more a lack of quality than effort. The 2nd half showed that, could have just thought ahh well poor competition, but they gave it a good go and should have scored more. We should have been talking about a comeback from 3 down really.
 
tangerine_neil said:
Evo needs to play them in their correct positions and if they’re still not putting in enough effort or making any meaningful contribution, start replacing from the youth team until January.
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It's like Groundhog Day with Critchley. I am surprised fans can even be arsed booing.
 
JJpool said:
So we don't out train? We've been training far better and more professionally.

We have been out working sides in some of the games, depends how the games went. It's more a lack of quality than effort. The 2nd half showed that, could have just thought ahh well poor competition, but they gave it a good go and should have scored more. We should have been talking about a comeback from 3 down really.
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I'm not talking about under Evatt, I know things have improved on the training ground. Under Bruce it was an absolute disgrace. We rarely out work teams but I will agree the main issue is ability. That is why it is vital we work harder, Evatt said exactly the same thing last night, so he clearly thinks we aren't where we need to be in terms of effort.
 
What’s worse than booing is the apathy that has descended on the Stadium. Before kick off against Reading I was aware that the usual buzz around the ground and in the bar was missing. Prior to kick off there was a muted chattering amongst fans. The chanting at kick off was half hearted. Yes, there was a smattering of boos at half time, but the really worrying thing was the absolute flood of people leaving before the end. Booing and yelling shows passion. Silence and empty seats are real toxicity.
 
BlackpoolJord said:
They were getting booed the minute they went 1-0 down against Reading against the run of play. It's no wonder half of them can't be arsed putting a shift in for us.
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Putting a shift in should be the bare minimum as they are doing a job most lads would love to do and get paid well for it. It's an insult to the hard working fans who do put a shift in all week and then pay for the privilege of watching that pile of shit. It's disgusting.
 
JJpool said:
So we don't out train? We've been training far better and more professionally.

We have been out working sides in some of the games, depends how the games went. It's more a lack of quality than effort. The 2nd half showed that, could have just thought ahh well poor competition, but they gave it a good go and should have scored more. We should have been talking about a comeback from 3 down really.
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Exactly. We had numerous good chances against Reading and Harrogate but missed them. They had one in the second half and killed the game.
 
cside said:
I was at Harrogate last night; as they left the field today we got a couple of half-hearted claps from two or three players, most barely managed a glance at the fans.

If the players are too cowardly to acknowledge the couple of hundred people who travelled in the dark to the middle of Yorkshire, to watch us go 3-0 down after 15 minutes, they deserve the boos they got.

Those players don't respect the club or the badge, why should we show them anything but the same?
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When you say, "... they deserve the boos they got", I sincerely hope you're not suggesting they were rewarded with alcoholic beveradges for the gutless, spineless, abject display we were all subjected to last night!? If so, I think this is absolutely outrageous. I was going to suggest they (the playing staff) should refund all those who travelled over for the game, only for these loyal, dedicated, committed followers to be presented with what turned out to be an absolute sh-t-sh-w of a performance, against opponents currently fighting for their professional lives at the wrong end of Div Two. All I can say, is that I hope those tangerine 'mercenaries' enjoyed their boos and managed to avoid the resulting spray, as they no doubt went on to gratuitously 'p-ss it up the wall.'

I really can't stress enough just how angry I feel about the unwarrented display of sheer wanton behaviour, as demonstrated last night, by a hardcore of so-called 'representatives' of our proud old club. The time really can't come quickly enough for the powers that be to confront this continuing wave of boos-fuelled anti-social behaviour... and for social order to be restored ASAP.

Oh - hang on. I meant 'booze', of course. Silly me...
 
NewburyOne said:
I'm not talking about under Evatt, I know things have improved on the training ground. Under Bruce it was an absolute disgrace. We rarely out work teams but I will agree the main issue is ability. That is why it is vital we work harder, Evatt said exactly the same thing last night, so he clearly thinks we aren't where we need to be in terms of effort.
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Let's see how we do vs Carlisle.
 
I understand booing doesn’t help anyone but FFS how the hell are we supposed to react when we are facing relegation.
The players have no right to ask of anything of the supporters if anything they should be bloody reimbursing the loyal paying fans with some of the most recent horror shows!
 
Limechase said:
Safe to say, I can't be arsed to go on Sunday, as last Saturday, really spoiled my weekend
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I transferred my ST for the Reading game to my mate as we were away in the Lake District (good time had) & we’re going out for our Christmas drinks Sunday afternoon (arranged before the stupid match KO time & day) it’ll give me chance to apologise for giving him my ticket last Saturday. It also gives me an excuse (not that I need one) to not bother with the cup game. I still hope we win though.
 
Wizaard said:
Banks does that. Beat three last night and hit the post for starters.
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There in is the problem he needs to do that 3 times to actually get a goal. All our current forward players are a goal in every three good chances, not natural finishers
 
Arriedirk said:
Who wants him out,I don’t,I would just like him to tell the supporters what a mess we are in,instead of telling us what he thinks we want to hear.

He stated yesterday,that he wanted a performance that night,he didn’t get it.
He needs to start on the training ground.Players are not playing has a team,don’t want to work,won’t fight for each other,there is a lot wrong.
Who brought these players to the club,they not better than the players we let go.
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He might not have got it ,but as you say ,the important thing is, he wanted it. That match has gone now , will he do something about it . I think he will and maybe it may work or not ,but he has the club at heart and he should be given a chance when we get our sick notes back and we have got to the January window.

I actually thought what he said post match was quite accurate and although he won't be happy with some players ,he did not blame individuals . He admitted it wasn't good enough . He pointed out that we were better in the second half . He also asked for the support of the fans . He said the right things and it wasn't just to tell us what we want to hear .

If we carry on losing ,then his post match interviews will become harder.
 
Seasideforever said:
There is nothing more guaranteed to make things worse than booing the team ,by all means don’t clap or walk out if you have to but please don’t boo your own players it’s football suicide !!!
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Full time you have a right as a paying fan to get them told it’s not good enough. Agree, don’t do it during the game, but at full time if we get another Reading or Harrogate performance im getting them told
 
Athers said:
Full time you have a right as a paying fan to get them told it’s not good enough. Agree, don’t do it during the game, but at full time if we get another Reading or Harrogate performance im getting them told
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No one booed during the game.
 
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