The knee.

It is and always was “Reversrse Racism” it supports a movement who sees planning to smash up our Cenotaphs.

Some thing that pays tribute for the selfless loss of life of the few that gave up SO much so many can life in the free democratic world we live in today.

The knee should be banned and heavy fines issued by FIFA.

This is not my view re the “Kick It Out” campaign that I 100% support??🚌🧡
 
Torycorner said:
It is and always was “Reversrse Racism” it supports a movement who sees planning to smash up our Cenotaphs.

Some thing that pays tribute for the selfless loss of life of the few that gave up SO much so many can life in the free democratic world we live in today.

The knee should be banned and heavy fines issued by FIFA.

This is not my view re the “Kick It Out” campaign that I 100% support??🚌🧡
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Planning to smash up the cenotaphs.

Deep down you must know that's never going to happen. There is absolutely no relationship between the two.
 
Curryman said:
Interestingly, last night before the game with USA the England team did the knee, yet the USA team, where the knee originated, did not.

As all lives matter, has it run its course?
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Should never have started in the first place, along with rainbow laces and promoting women's football.
It was all pampering to these organisations and because of the threat of a yellow card to Harry Kane in the WC the FA rolled over 🙄
I hope the FA continue their statement that politics and football shouldn't mix and that all subsequent displays stop.
 
Torycorner said:
It is and always was “Reversrse Racism” it supports a movement who sees planning to smash up our Cenotaphs.

Some thing that pays tribute for the selfless loss of life of the few that gave up SO much so many can life in the free democratic world we live in today.

The knee should be banned and heavy fines issued by FIFA.

This is not my view re the “Kick It Out” campaign that I 100% support??🚌🧡
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I think you mean well but that you're wrong.
 
I must admit I noted that as well. The players are clearly being told what to do, the armband one being a clear example. When Kane was asked how he felt about not wearing it he went on a monologue about how disappointed he was, I doubt he gives two shits. The real issue is the thousands of migrant deaths, if a country decides homosexuality is wrong that's their prerogative. My sister came out 25 years ago, good stuff I'm happy for her but let's not be overly sanctimonious.
 
Wizaard said:
The England team want to do it. Good enough for me.
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That's fair enough Wiz.

To be honest, I would not be sure that all the players actually want to do it.

I am not saying that the majority don't want to do it but I'd be amazed if there were not players who don't want to do it but just do it because it only takes a second and they get grief if they didn't comply.

A very small sample but I know that one professional footballer is of the opinion that is "a load of b0110x", he's white and uncapped to be fair but they are a number of black players who don't take the knee.

I have no problem with you holding a differing view Wiz but I personally I think that it's a load of b0110x.

Perhaps more importantly, it has done nothing for racial harmony and has probably been divisive if anything, please feel free to tell me what good it has brought if you disagree.

I have no problem replying Wiz and what you say re the England team taking the knee is perfectly fair but all I said was that it was cool because Kier and Ms Rayner did it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
It was always a virtue signalling load of nonsense started about a police brutality issue in the USA, also their racial issues don't translate over here at all, yet the movement BLM brought it over like we were the exact same.

The actual movement, whilst having some good intention from people following the message, was always ridiculous and political and have since been found out.

Players honouring the namesake was imo never a great idea, hasn't solved anything.

It's a good point, why are the players still making this pointless gesture when the USA, where the actual issue occurred and is far worse than the UK for race issues, didn't bother.

Probably doesn't help when you have Wokegate in charge.
 
JJpool said:
It was always a virtue signalling load of nonsense started about a police brutality issue in the USA, also their racial issues don't translate over here at all, yet the movement BLM brought it over like we were the exact same.

The actual movement, whilst having some good intention from people following the message, was always ridiculous and political and have since been found out.

Players honouring the namesake was imo never a great idea, hasn't solved anything.

It's a good point, why are the players still making this pointless gesture when the USA, where the actual issue occurred and is far worse than the UK for race issues, didn't bother.

Probably doesn't help when you have Wokegate in charge.
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To be fair it's more than racial injustice in the US it's about equality, who wouldn't agree with that? Using footballers to promote this isn't something I'm overly comfortable with. It should be politicians, unfortunately they are too busy castigating immigrants.
 
Should never of even started especially being tagged BLM on the basis of a serial America criminal and yes his death at the hands of a police officer was truly shocking. We all get racism needs to be stamped out in football but this taking of the knee now needs to stop especially as the vast majority of teams / players have moved on.
 
Shandypants said:
To be fair it's more than racial injustice in the US it's about equality, who wouldn't agree with that? Using footballers to promote this isn't something I'm overly comfortable with. It should be politicians, unfortunately they are too busy castigating immigrants.
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The message of equality was universally supported, but people didn't like the namesake group, with weird political aims.

Anyway, it ran it's course a long time ago, didn't change anything and now is a rather pointless gesture.

Not being supported by a team from where the issues came from surely says it all.
 
I’ve noticed quite a few teams who come to Bloomfield road no longer take the knee of those that do the vast majority of black players don’t bother doing it so you have to ask yourself what’s the point?
Same with the England team how many other countries have we seen do it so far at this World Cup?
If we want to be different wear the multi coloured armband I say. 👍
 
Racism is obviously still a massive issue in this country and even worse in others but not sure taking the knee is what's required to address it.
 
Torycorner said:
It is and always was “Reversrse Racism” it supports a movement who sees planning to smash up our Cenotaphs.

Some thing that pays tribute for the selfless loss of life of the few that gave up SO much so many can life in the free democratic world we live in today.

The knee should be banned and heavy fines issued by FIFA.

This is not my view re the “Kick It Out” campaign that I 100% support??🚌🧡
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Utter bollocks.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
I’ve noticed quite a few teams who come to Bloomfield road no longer take the knee of those that do the vast majority of black players don’t bother doing it so you have to ask yourself what’s the point?
Same with the England team how many other countries have we seen do it so far at this World Cup?
If we want to be different wear the multi coloured armband I say. 👍
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If our lot continue to take the knee it's because they want to do it. Now then, which of the critics on here want to call our players out for doing it?
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Utter bollocks.
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Yes I agree “taking the knee” IS utter Bollox.

We already have “Kick It Out” and “Stand Up To Racism” campaigns in the game both of which I 100% support.

We don’t need a third (remainder removed)
 
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What actual effect does it have? I’d suggest none at all. They do it for a fleeting moment then get on with the match.
It’s neither here nor there.

It’s merely a one dimensional gesture towards standing up to discrimination (discrimination rears it’s ugly head in many more ways than racism).

But despite their compulsion to be more than footballers and use their influence for betterment, they go and all too willingly embrace a World Cup in a host nation where LGBT are discriminated against.

So forgive me for thinking the gesture of taking the knee has little substance to it. It’s surely devalued in its sincerity when the same knee-takers condone other forms of discrimination.

They can’t be taken seriously when they are selective as to which forms of discrimination they will make a stand against (excuse the pun).
 
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Ps. It’s a World Cup of diverse nations. All participating countries have been welcomed and treated well regardless of their colour or religion.

But there’s one glaring discrimination issue in Qatar and it’s been widely covered.

So here’s a chance to make a stand, show some leadership, show your moral character. But what do our players do? They ignore the elephant in the room. They conveniently disregard the LGBT discrimination. But hey these moral virtue signalling hero’s still manage to dip onto a knee for a second just before the whistle blows to start a match. Because they are making a stand about their narrow minded view on discrimination. It’s pathetic.
 
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