Tony Blair

All this malarky over Boris and his wallpaper, yet Bliar spent proportionally a lot more in 'renovations' than anyone else.

Horrible man, horrible wife.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
The difference is Blair spent 30k a year, which is the allowance.
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Acknowledged, but how many renovations out of the public purse did he really need over his full term. Its legally taking the p!55

The Bliars spent £285,380 (equivalent to over £410.000 in todays money). One year he spent £48,336 ( equivalent to £73,000).

Just political posturing by two of the worst, ineffective leaders in recent history - Starmer and Ed Davey
 
Bend it like Suddick said:
Acknowledged, but how many renovations out of the public purse did he really need over his full term. Its legally taking the p!55

The Bliars spent £285,380 (equivalent to over £410.000 in todays money). One year he spent £48,336 ( equivalent to £73,000).

Just political posturing by two of the worst, ineffective leaders in recent history - Starmer and Ed Davey
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Blair spent within the limits and more importantly didn't try to get anyone else to pay for it.
The story is about cash for access, gifts for policy or contracts and not about the wall paper Johnson has chosen (although the stuff about the TM's 'John Lewis nightmare' is illuminating). It is the same principle as when you were a policeman letting someone give you a present - you cannot accept because you are immediately compromised. It seems that Johnson deliberately solicited these gifts.
 
Bend it like Suddick said:
Acknowledged, but how many renovations out of the public purse did he really need over his full term. Its legally taking the p!55

The Bliars spent £285,380 (equivalent to over £410.000 in todays money). One year he spent £48,336 ( equivalent to £73,000).

Just political posturing by two of the worst, ineffective leaders in recent history - Starmer and Ed Davey
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Oh yeah I know, I'm not going to defend Blair, but it was within the rules. Cameron lobbed 70k at it when he moved in, but again, within the rules. Apparently TM didn't spend anything so the John Lewis nightmare was Cameron's.

Thatcher wouldn't let the chancellors spend anything on it, which was the sensible solution.
 
Bend it like Suddick said:
Acknowledged, but how many renovations out of the public purse did he really need over his full term. Its legally taking the p!55

The Bliars spent £285,380 (equivalent to over £410.000 in todays money). One year he spent £48,336 ( equivalent to £73,000).

Just political posturing by two of the worst, ineffective leaders in recent history - Starmer and Ed Davey
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So Blair spent 285K in 10 years, and Boris has spent 200K in 22 months. Yeh, Blair is worse 😕
 
Threepeaksphil said:
War criminal
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Yep, although he freely admits it and is probably overly harsh on himself (hence the ostracising of John Hurt's War Doctor and the PTSD of Christopher Eccleston's and the Zygon Inversion speech), he had no option but to use The Moment after Gallifrey fell in the original timeline.
 
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Well the days when a former Prime Minister can’t get away with wild long unkempt blow away locks that look like they haven’t seen a comb or brush for months are well and truly over.

Meanwhile at PMQ’s today.....
 
ElBurroSinNombre said:
Blair spent within the limits and more importantly didn't try to get anyone else to pay for it.
The story is about cash for access, gifts for policy or contracts and not about the wall paper Johnson has chosen (although the stuff about the TM's 'John Lewis nightmare' is illuminating). It is the same principle as when you were a policeman letting someone give you a present - you cannot accept because you are immediately compromised. It seems that Johnson deliberately solicited these gifts.
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270,000 plus have died and we have had the biggest health crisis in 100 years so that’s soooo much more important that a flat refurb. Didn’t Michael someone ex speaker spend a fortune of public money on expensive wallpaper. Let’s all get our priorities right
 
Threepeaksphil said:
270,000 plus have died and we have had the biggest health crisis in 100 years so that’s soooo much more important that a flat refurb. Didn’t Michael someone ex speaker spend a fortune of public money on expensive wallpaper. Let’s all get our priorities right
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Yep, a very good point Phil.

What about if those with a limited capacity for information to just concentrate on the deaths and the health crisis (although you may have got the figure slightly wrong), whilst those who can assimilate several topics at once - and assign varying degrees of importance to them - discuss them simultaneously.

That way nothing gets missed.

I know the government are not keen on this, but I think we can get away with it on here if we all speak quietly...
 
The money spent on No.10 while Blair was there was mostly on general renovation, not just personal living quarters. No. 10 is part of the infamous Jerry-built terraces thrown up in London’s expansion of the late 17thC with poor foundations on soft land. It’s been crumbling ever since. Blair may be criticised for some things but not that. Good to see he is getting into the spirit of the Covid lockdown hairstyle. Like me, I’ll bet he has never had hair so long since he was 19 !
 
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Why Bozo wants to spend nearly £60k on a flat he will not inhabit for long beats me. Mind you, it was probably the £30k allowance that went on the wallpaper and fixtures, and when Bozo moves out he will probably take the furniture, carpets and light bulbs with him.
 
He is a James Hunt that makes the rapist look like a choirboy.
 
Archibald Knox said:
The money spent on No.10 while Blair was there was mostly on general renovation, not just personal living quarters. No. 10 is part of the infamous Jerry-built terraces thrown up in London’s expansion of the late 17thC with poor foundations on soft land. It’s been crumbling ever since. Blair may be criticised for some things but not that. Good to see he is getting into the spirit of the Covid lockdown hairstyle. Like me, I’ll bet he has never had hair so long since he was 19 !
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General renovation.... yes, right 🥺

He and his wife, Cherie, installed new artwork, £70-a-roll wallpapers, custom bookcases, new carpets, a mirrored exercise room, a new kitchen, and a new bed reportedly costing £3,500 - or £5,520 in today's money.
 
Bend it like Suddick said:
General renovation.... yes, right 🥺

He and his wife, Cherie, installed new artwork, £70-a-roll wallpapers, custom bookcases, new carpets, a mirrored exercise room, a new kitchen, and a new bed reportedly costing £3,500 - or £5,520 in today's money.
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To be fair he did say he didn't want to sleep in Ken Clarke's old bed which is fair enough, but you can get one from IKEA for a ton.
 
Bend it like Suddick said:
General renovation.... yes, right 🥺

He and his wife, Cherie, installed new artwork, £70-a-roll wallpapers, custom bookcases, new carpets, a mirrored exercise room, a new kitchen, and a new bed reportedly costing £3,500 - or £5,520 in today's money.
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Sounds cheap for that there London given anyone employed within Whitehall Square* is on an inflation busting pension.

*is it a square?
 
Threepeaksphil said:
270,000 plus have died and we have had the biggest health crisis in 100 years so that’s soooo much more important that a flat refurb. Didn’t Michael someone ex speaker spend a fortune of public money on expensive wallpaper. Let’s all get our priorities right
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John Bercow was the wallpaper man.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Yep, although he freely admits it and is probably overly harsh on himself (hence the ostracising of John Hurt's War Doctor and the PTSD of Christopher Eccleston's and the Zygon Inversion speech), he had no option but to use The Moment after Gallifrey fell in the original timeline.
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So what you're saying Lytham is that Tony Blair is castigated as a war criminal when his only crime was to be the central figure in an opaque Steven Moffat story arc. An evil device nurtured during his childhood whilst absorbing Terrance Dicks' Target Books novelisations.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
So what you're saying Lytham is that Tony Blair is castigated as a war criminal when his only crime was to be the central figure in an opaque Steven Moffat story arc. An evil device nurtured during his childhood whilst absorbing Terrance Dicks' Target Books novelisations.
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Pretty much, although Moffat squeezed that whole Ultimate Sanction plot device in to make genocide ok if it wasn't as bad as the proposed genocide, then make the Doctor really sad about it like, although it was Davies' original plot, who's a much better show runner in my opinion. At least Terry Nation didn't let him go through with it.

I'll never forgive Dicks' for scaring the living pants off me with Fang Rock mind.

I think I've just lost 99.99% of the board there.
 
Bend it like Suddick said:
General renovation.... yes, right 🥺

He and his wife, Cherie, installed new artwork, £70-a-roll wallpapers, custom bookcases, new carpets, a mirrored exercise room, a new kitchen, and a new bed reportedly costing £3,500 - or £5,520 in today's money.
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£70-a-roll? Is that all? Elsewhere it is reported that Bozo and Carrie’s wallpaper costs £860-a-roll.
 
Bend it like Suddick said:
Acknowledged, but how many renovations out of the public purse did he really need over his full term. Its legally taking the p!55

The Bliars spent £285,380 (equivalent to over £410.000 in todays money). One year he spent £48,336 ( equivalent to £73,000).

Just political posturing by two of the worst, ineffective leaders in recent history - Starmer and Ed Davey
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I think it was a given at the time of the Blairs occupancy the flat hadn't been refurbished since the lovable Margaret was last in office. God knows what it looked like at that point. Cappe De Monte anyone? 😱
 
Bend it like Suddick said:
General renovation.... yes, right 🥺

He and his wife, Cherie, installed new artwork, £70-a-roll wallpapers, custom bookcases, new carpets, a mirrored exercise room, a new kitchen, and a new bed reportedly costing £3,500 - or £5,520 in today's money.
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All declared and within the budget limit.

Meanwhile we have no idea of who has paid for this £200,000 refurb, given that Boris is often bemoaning the pittance of a PM salary he has to live on.
 
Wizaard said:
All declared and within the budget limit.

Meanwhile we have no idea of who has paid for this £200,000 refurb, given that Boris is often bemoaning the pittance of a PM salary he has to live on.
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Again I ask where the £200K source is from? pure speculation from the media
 
Bend it like Suddick said:
That I can forgive Archie, but Bliar looking at himself on a treadmill whilst sweating profusely.....nooooooooooo 😛
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There is nothing that any Tory could do ever, no matter how bad, that you could not forgive. You are the completely blinkered as far as Boris and his Old Etonian chums are concerned.
Do you have a forelock that you are able to tug?
 
I'm still baffled why anyone would spend 80 grand on a flat you could technically be kicked out of at any moment...what's wrong with a couple of tins of dulux, some curtains from Dunelm, and some fresh carpet from Terry's. Bet you could do the lot for a couple of grand lol
 
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