Tyrone Mings

Any side with Harry cane playing against a top international side has no chance as proven time and time again .He scores against poor sides but has no pace and gets found out .time after time against top sides This is fact but you can't help delusion and need to understand pace is the difference at the top level
That is entirely just rubbish tbh
 
Tomori is an interesting one. Saw on SSN that he’s getting rave reviews after a title winning season at AC Milan.
I watched Tomori play for the Under 21's a few years ago and he was absolutely outstanding and the reason why we beat our opponents that day (I think it was Poland if my memory serves me right), but with him being at Chelsea first team opportunities were few and far between and he seemed to disappear off the radar and ended up in Milan. Great to see that moving abroad has improved his game and starting for them no doubt increased his confidence, he could be a massive plus in an area we struggle in over the forthcoming years.
 
Useless??
I thought you as a genuine pub team manager would appreciate a player that went from all be it a hell of a lot higher than your level, but still non league to play well over a hundred prem games and represent his country!!
ah well i suppose threre lies the problem, you never were any more than pub league RB🤣🤣
Sure I was only a pub team manager although to be fair I also managed in the North West counties league as well, but my view on Mings is only an opinion and we are all entitled to one of those, after all it is a message board. As a pub team manager I did manage to win a record amount of trophies in the North West as well as being the only manager to win four LFA titles, sure it's not pro football as you say,but I dare say its better than any man on this message board has done pal. 😉
 
England should always get out of the initial group at a world cup finals. With the players at his disposal should've done better. He definitely underachieved with the available players, if the team picked themselves and selected the tactics they would have got to the QFs.
That's probably what happened!!

Failed to qualify 1974, 1978 and 1994.

Group stage, 1982 (special case) and 2014.

R16, 1998, 2010.

QF or better, 1970, 1986, 1990, 2002, 2006, 2018.


So QF at less than 50% of WC's we could have gone to since 1970.
 
3 successive quarter-finals, the first a narrow loss to the eventual champions, the next 2 both lost on penalties.

His successor couldn't even qualify for the Euros, the next one went out in the first knockout round, the one after that managed a penalty loss in the Euro QF's before going out in the group stage at the world cup and then losing to Iceland in the Euros.

Between Ramsey and Southgate, he's got the best record of any England manager for almost 50 years.
Venables and Robson made semi finals, Robson also made a quarter, so no, he hasn't got the best record between Ramsey and Southgate.
 
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Sure I was only a pub team manager although to be fair I also managed in the North West counties league as well, but my view on Mings is only an opinion and we are all entitled to one of those, after all it is a message board. As a pub team manager I did manage to win a record amount of trophies in the North West as well as being the only manager to win four LFA titles, sure it's not pro football as you say,but I dare say its better than any man on this message board has done pal. 😉
My Blackpool/Holland 1980 Subbuteo team made it all the way to the 1980 Garage World Cup, so put that in your pipe.
 
Failed to qualify 1974, 1978 and 1994.

Group stage, 1982 (special case) and 2014.

R16, 1998, 2010.

QF or better, 1970, 1986, 1990, 2002, 2006, 2018.


So QF at less than 50% of WC's we could have gone to since 1970.
Those stats don't tell the whole story, he had good players at his disposal and didn't make the team stronger than the sum of its parts.
The best managers make a combination of good and average players into a stronger unit Eriksen didn’t do that.
 
Any side with Harry cane playing against a top international side has no chance as proven time and time again .He scores against poor sides but has no pace and gets found out .time after time against top sides This is fact but you can't help delusion and need to understand pace is the difference at the top level
Kane has a football brain, he can pick a pass, he can drop deep in a 4 3 3 and be effective, he finds space, he times his runs and given a chance he can finish. Guardiola, Pocchetino and Conte all think the same. Roy Hodgson likes his corners!!
Top player who doesn't rely on lighting pace he's still good for England for a few years.
 
Those stats don't tell the whole story, he had good players at his disposal and didn't make the team stronger than the sum of its parts.
The best managers make a combination of good and average players into a stronger unit Eriksen didn’t do that.

He's not the only manager who had good players available, and he didn't have that many really good ones available either.
 
He's not the only manager who had good players available, and he didn't have that many really good ones available either.
Argentina, Portugal and probably others have achieved great things with only one big talent in the squad because the managers came up with tactics that made the most of what they had. Eriksen couldn't do that, I really don't think he was very good, neither was Cappello, Keegan or Taylor at international level.
 
is hard to pick a team / squad at international level - do you pick entirely 100% based on form ?? or do you consider the players experience and their performances for you at international level...

Ideally I stil lthink for the WC and euro finals you would want your players to be playing at the highest level and involved in European football and with a major tournament on their CV


would you rather go for a fringe player at Liverpool or City or someone who has had a decent season played 40 + games in the prem for a side lower down the league ???

has Grealish done enough at City to deserve a place???

I think Stones and Maguire are still the favoured 2 centre backs based on tournament experience if nothing else ...
 
what would be your starting XI if the the first game of the WC was nect week and all players were fit and raring to go ...
 
Argentina, Portugal and probably others have achieved great things with only one big talent in the squad because the managers came up with tactics that made the most of what they had.

The bit you're skipping over is that the one big talent they had was Diego Maradona and Christiano Ronaldo, with the best will in the world even Wayne Rooney isn't in their class (plus he was injured anyway).
 
The bit you're skipping over is that the one big talent they had was Diego Maradona and Christiano Ronaldo, with the best will in the world even Wayne Rooney isn't in their class (plus he was injured anyway).
We didn't have a superstar but we probably had a few more players in the squad at the top level. Not saying we should've won anything but with the talent we had quarter finals isn't that impressive.
 
what would be your starting XI if the the first game of the WC was nect week and all players were fit and raring to go ...
Personally.

Pickford

TAA Stones Maguire Shaw

Rice Phillips

Foden Bellingham Grealish

Kane

That isn't what he'll go with but personally what I'd like to see.
 
Any side with Harry cane playing against a top international side has no chance as proven time and time again .He scores against poor sides but has no pace and gets found out .time after time against top sides This is fact but you can't help delusion and need to understand pace is the difference at the top level

Personally.

Pickford

TAA Stones Maguire Shaw

Rice Phillips

Foden Bellingham Grealish

Kane

That isn't what he'll go with but personally what I'd like to see.
yeh, like that but think Mount is a certain starter and Sterling not far behind being a certainty either. His most difficult decision is at right back as we have some real quality there. TAA has certainly played himself back into contention and Walker is also oustanding. James is a great player too but think he'll be third choice. One alternative is to play wing backs with TAA st wing back and Walker the right side of a back 3. Something Southgate has done before.
 
Rusty, in a sort of comparison, Mike Brearley captained England with reasonable success, he wasn't really the standard of other cricketers in the team, but was integral to their success.

Henderson is such a player in Klopp's side. His footballing ability is distinctly average though. ( Goals and assists in his Liverpool tenure are poor, even for the Hendo lovers spouting 'He's a holding midfielder')

His passing statistics are seriously embellished as he predominantly passes sidewards or backwards, and only tends to pass to colleagues who are close by and unmarked with rarely no territorial gain or tactical advantage. Klopp obviously encourages this tactic, but as I alluded to previously, Brendan Rodgers wanted shut.
Yes and Brendan Rodgers is hardly in Klopp’s league when it comes to winning trophies
 
Yes and Brendan Rodgers is hardly in Klopp’s league when it comes to winning trophi
Pretty close if you check - back to back trebles with Celtic, FA Cup with Leicester and Charity Shield. Promotion with Swansea and if it wasn’t for that Stevie G slip would have had Premier title too.

I’d say he had a qualified opinion about Henderson
 
Pretty close if you check - back to back trebles with Celtic, FA Cup with Leicester and Charity Shield. Promotion with Swansea and if it wasn’t for that Stevie G slip would have had Premier title too.

I’d say he had a qualified opinion about Henderson
And time seems to have proved that opinion wrong
 
I do understand why Henderson gets all this negative attention, for his style of play, but his trophy cabinet and bank balance far outweighs anybodies on avftt!

In a similar vein, who did Cloughie have as the cornerstone of his successful Forest team of the late 70's; none other than John McGovern who didn't remotely look like a footballer, yet won two European cups along the way.

It's a funny old game. 😜
 
I do understand why Henderson gets all this negative attention, for his style of play, but his trophy cabinet and bank balance far outweighs anybodies on avftt!

In a similar vein, who did Cloughie have as the cornerstone of his successful Forest team of the late 70's; none other than John McGovern who didn't remotely look like a footballer, yet won two European cups along the way.

It's a funny old game. 😜
McGovern was a good example, but also a better footballer than Henderson
 
Trent will never play RB with our current CB options. Walker and James will be ahead because they’re better defenders and until we get a Virgil style (and quality) CB, Southgate will never feel comfortable with the openness down the right that TAA brings.

It’s brilliantly ‘England’ that we have loads of decent right backs and not a single midfielder that can actually pass a ball properly.
 
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