Just shows it up for the nonsense it is.Scotland saw sense and golf was permitted during the second lockdown. It didn't seem to cause any problems.
Enough reported suspicions for the MHRA to pause the vaccine rollout and investigate these deaths and huge number of adverse reactions reported.
A quick look at that table shows 999 people die, but the outcome cannot be determined as directly due to the vaccine. They had just had it recently.
so how many of those deaths reported would you suggest have no connection to the injection the patient just received? All of them? How many of the 1,000,0000 reactions had no connection to the injection they just received? Thats 1,000,0000 reported reactions,quite a lot to dismiss any of those reports had anything to do with the injection. If even a fraction of those were connected to the injection then the MHRA should do their job,pause the vaccine rollout and investigate these reports before potentially damaging any more people.The bit he didn't quote: https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...irus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting
The MHRA has received 460 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 999 reports for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, seven for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna and 24 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified. The majority of these reports were in elderly people or people with underlying illness. Usage of the vaccines has increased over the course of the campaigns and as such, so has reporting of fatal events with a temporal association with vaccination however, this does not indicate a link between vaccination and the fatalities reported. Review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest the vaccines played a role in these deaths.
works both ways. How come when somebody died after having a positive test they were recorded as a covid death but now all of a sudden when it comes to deaths after being vaccinated they use underlying illnesses as an excuse.How come conspiracy theorists are happy to believe that ‘1400 deaths shortly after receiving the vaccine’ means they were all caused by the vaccine, but were up in arms about COVID being put on the death certificate of all those who died within 28 days of testing positive?
Typical nutters who twist every piece of data and deliberately omit any element of a report that proves them wrong.
I'm not denying there are some risks, but very low overall given the numbers who have had it.No they are not proving to be very low risk at all. This injection is now the single most dangerous vaccine that has ever been produced. 1470 people have died due to this vaccine in the United Kingdom and that is just the ones that have been reported. 1,059,307 adverse reactions recorded in the United Kingdom and thats just the ones that have been recorded.Many people wont be aware of the MHRA yellow card reporting system so will not register their reactions. To give some context the swine flu vaccine was pulled after 50 deaths.We are now into nearly 1500 deaths in this country with another 11,500 deaths in the US and 30,000 deaths across Europe. This injection should be paused with immediate effect and investigated.
so how many of those deaths reported would you suggest have no connection to the injection the patient just received? All of them?
How many of the 1,000,0000 reactions had no connection to the injection they just received?
This is the point.We’re diverging from the point somewhat. Which was about the ethics and long term implications of the state dictating what medication people must take if they want access to mainstream society. Not whether the vaccine works/has harmful side effects
For a start, ‘recorded as a COVID death’ is another bit of an airy-fairy conspiracy statement. It’s been said countless times that ‘excess deaths’ is the only way to estimate the amount of deaths caused by COVID, and I stress the word estimate. It may well be mentioned on the death certificate that the person tested positive within 28 days prior to death, but no-one in their right mind would think that the government are trying to pass off traffic accident fatalities as a COVID death (which has been used as an example on many occasions).works both ways. How come when somebody died after having a positive test they were recorded as a covid death but now all of a sudden when it comes to deaths after being vaccinated they use underlying illnesses as an excuse.
Where are these stats coming from? Bit of a coincidence that you've found this.No they are not proving to be very low risk at all. This injection is now the single most dangerous vaccine that has ever been produced. 1470 people have died due to this vaccine in the United Kingdom and that is just the ones that have been reported. 1,059,307 adverse reactions recorded in the United Kingdom and thats just the ones that have been recorded.Many people wont be aware of the MHRA yellow card reporting system so will not register their reactions. To give some context the swine flu vaccine was pulled after 50 deaths.We are now into nearly 1500 deaths in this country with another 11,500 deaths in the US and 30,000 deaths across Europe. This injection should be paused with immediate effect and investigated.
VAERS have been debunked by proper scientists as providing misleading statistics. I guessed it was this. Anti vaxx campaigners find deaths. What a surprise.
VAERS | Vaccine Safety | CDC
VAERS is the national vaccine safety monitoring system that accepts reports of adverse events after vaccination. The system can quickly detect potential safety issues with vaccines.www.cdc.gov
Quite. And the next post then provides a link to that source.Intersting article that shines some light on where anti-vax is coming from: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-57928647
Essentially Russia/China want to use their vaccines as tools of international diplomacy, so anything that undermines trust in Western developed vaccines is a win for them.
That's not strictly true as I would suggest virtually all had underlying health conditions and perhaps were even terminally ill already
Exactly. It is a political tactic as old as time - misrepresent your opponents as fringe/unwell. It does make you wonder what exactly is being taught in schools when you've even got schoolteachers parroting this shit.Do people think that the majority of people who haven't been vaccinated are anti vax conspiracy theorists?
Surely these people are a very small minority, has anybody met anyone in person who thinks Bill Gates is inserting nano technology into them through vaccines or that the new world order are making young women infertile to control population. I haven't.
All the people I have spoken to that haven't had it have made their decision for legitimate medical reasons, have had covid so deem it unnecessary or are reserving judgement because that's how their thought processes work or just think if it finishes me off so be it.
I think the media probably over exaggerate the crack pot, anti vax extremists.
One of my mates believes all that shit. It does my head in, I seriously think it’s a mental health issue.Do people think that the majority of people who haven't been vaccinated are anti vax conspiracy theorists?
Surely these people are a very small minority, has anybody met anyone in person who thinks Bill Gates is inserting nano technology into them through vaccines or that the new world order are making young women infertile to control population. I haven't.
All the people I have spoken to that haven't had it have made their decision for legitimate medical reasons, have had covid so deem it unnecessary or are reserving judgement because that's how their thought processes work or just think if it finishes me off so be it.
I think the media probably over exaggerate the crack pot, anti vax extremists.
Thats a shame but I do think they are a small minority of people so herd immunity should be possible without them.One of my mates believes all that shit. It does my head in, I seriously think it’s a mental health issue.
He also believes that the test that’s rammed up your nose has something on it designed to cause brain cancer, as a means towards population control.
In all other respects, he’s a great lad, but I’ve watched him fall deeper and deeper into the conspiracy networks over the past 5 or so years, and it’s very worrying.
FYI @WizzerboyWas she targeting the ones who are double jabbed and are still in fear of catching covid.
Or was she targeting the anti vaxers who think that the government are going to be able to trace everything from their IQ to their bank account details?
its all government data. Vaers is the national reporting system in America. Yellow card reporting is available on gov.uk for United Kingdom. I provided links. Im hardly looking for deaths,the government publish them.VAERS have been debunked by proper scientists as providing misleading statistics. I guessed it was this. Anti vaxx campaigners find deaths. What a surprise.
I'll watch it later
People jabbed are less likely to catch it and if infected it should lessen the amount of virus they emit. So a room of people all vaccinated should be pretty safe.This is the point.
Vaccinated people are catching and spreading this virus, so can someone explain to me why vaccine passports are necessary?
Please don’t talk about a slightly reduced risk, that’s not a valid point due to the above.
Creating a two-tiered society based on that would be a disgrace.
The talk of passports isn’t to save lives or for your health.
Yes I’ve just been through the same rigmarole. My expiry date is two days time so Mrs Mex is currently telling me I’ve done something wrong and am an idiot.I downloaded one yesterday. Their's a domestic one and an international one.
The domestic is supposed to last a month (although when I downloaded it gave me an almost immediate expry date????) so you need to keep refreshing it and yes you do get a QR code.
You can keep it in your NHS app which is different from your Covid 19 tracker app (or even just print it off).
I did try and download the international one but that's a lot less staightforward. You need to photograph yourself and then do a face scan (which didn't work) or a video. The video didn't recognise my photo . Gave up then.
Well if Michael Gove thinks I’m selfish get me to the clinic pronto.COVID-19: Michael Gove drops strong hint that vaccine passports will be needed for football matches
Michael Gove says it is his view that "some form of certification is the right way to go" and that "selfish" individuals who refuse to get a COVID-19 jab face being denied entry to some events.www.google.co.uk
What makes you think the PM doesn't want them? He keeps refloating the idea - even after it has been killed off a number of times? Genuine question as I can't work him out.Vaccine passports causing a huge divide in the Tory party, PM doesn't want them or the knights of the realm that run the party behind the scenes so probably won't happen.
Article in DM today but he does change his mind on most things from Brexit to Lockdowns at least once so it could change tomorrow!!What makes you think the PM doesn't want them? He keeps refloating the idea - even after it has been killed off a number of times? Genuine question as I can't work him out.
Yep - weird. He's the most authoritarian libertarian of all timeArticle in DM today but he does change his mind on most things from Brexit to Lockdowns at least once so it could change tomorrow!!
Which makes me think he tries to please everyone as he needs to be loved and ends up with no clear vision or plan for anything!!Yep - weird. He's the most authoritarian libertarian of all time
They work up to a point but not enough to justify a passport, in order to justify that they would have to be a true vaccine like polio or small pox and not something similar to a flu jab.What's the point? The jabs don't work anyway - it's all an illusion...