Vaughn

Same here, not a fan of littlejohn the bloke is a nob but on this occasion I agree with his sentiment. I have some insider knowledge on Rafiq as a bloke but it seems the country took his evidence completely at face value. This is a strange place to be, I'm glad we don't hold criminal trials on this basis.
 
The thing about Rafiq's accusations on what Vaughan said is that they have been independently corroborated by at least 2 other players, including current England international Adil Rashid. I also think the fact that Vaughan was advised by his solicitor not to participate in the Yorshire enquiry also speaks volumes
 
I can't disagree with that article. I think we all know Vaughan is going to be hung out to dry without a fair hearing.
The fact that Rafiq has since been found out to have made racist comments himself, does that not cast just a shadow of a doubt on his credibility?
I know two wrongs don't make a right. And it's obvious that there is a racist problem not only at Yorkshire but throughout cricket, which needs dealing with.
But I do feel that Vaughan is entitled to a fair hearing. Like the article says, even murderers and rapists are entitled to that.
 
I can't disagree with that article. I think we all know Vaughan is going to be hung out to dry without a fair hearing.
The fact that Rafiq has since been found out to have made racist comments himself, does that not cast just a shadow of a doubt on his credibility?
I know two wrongs don't make a right. And it's obvious that there is a racist problem not only at Yorkshire but throughout cricket, which needs dealing with.
But I do feel that Vaughan is entitled to a fair hearing. Like the article says, even murderers and rapists are entitled to that.
I don't think Rafiq's 'anti-semitic' comments cast doubt on his credibility at all. What they do is show that in certain situations, private peer groups etc. people make jokes and remarks that when removed from that context look completely different. Judging the individual away from the original context is always going to look incredibly bad for the person who has said it. We can all think of 'bad' jokes we've made in private, that when presented in a different context would make us look very unpleasant people.
 
I don't think Rafiq's 'anti-semitic' comments cast doubt on his credibility at all. What they do is show that in certain situations, private peer groups etc. people make jokes and remarks that when removed from that context look completely different. Judging the individual away from the original context is always going to look incredibly bad for the person who has said it. We can all think of 'bad' jokes we've made in private, that when presented in a different context would make us look very unpleasant people.
And the same could be applied to the comments Vaughan allegedly made.
 
I can't disagree with that article. I think we all know Vaughan is going to be hung out to dry without a fair hearing.
The fact that Rafiq has since been found out to have made racist comments himself, does that not cast just a shadow of a doubt on his credibility?
I know two wrongs don't make a right. And it's obvious that there is a racist problem not only at Yorkshire but throughout cricket, which needs dealing with.
But I do feel that Vaughan is entitled to a fair hearing. Like the article says, even murderers and rapists are entitled to that.
Good, he deserves what’s coming to him. His so called apology is one of the most pathetically scripted statements ever seen. He deserves no career in cricket. Goodbye, don’t come back.
 
How long did it take for him to apologise. Until he lost his last after dinner speaking engagement had been cancelled. Tw**.
 
Just an absolute disgrace what the BBC have done to him.

We are going down a dangerous road when folk are getting treated like this because of something that they might have said more than 10 years ago.

I could say, I hope all those who think that the treatment of Vaughan is acceptable that I hope the same thing happens to them but I certainly don't and I wouldn't wish it on anybody.

The world is going mad, when will all this nonsense end ?
 
Just an absolute disgrace what the BBC have done to him.

We are going down a dangerous road when folk are getting treated like this because of something that they might have said more than 10 years ago.

I could say, I hope all those who think that the treatment of Vaughan is acceptable that I hope the same thing happens to them but I certainly don't and I wouldn't wish it on anybody.

The world is going mad, when will all this nonsense end ?

When people stop using social media. Which means never. Agents of sports stars really should advise their young proteges to avoid social media at all costs but again they won't as they make the stars commercially attractive................until they say something silly..........then they lose it all.

Twitter really does seem to be the very worst. A literal swamp full of vermin all sitting under the surface just lurking.
 
When people stop using social media. Which means never. Agents of sports stars really should advise their young proteges to avoid social media at all costs but again they won't as they make the stars commercially attractive................until they say something silly..........then they lose it all.

Twitter really does seem to be the very worst. A literal swamp full of vermin all sitting under the surface just lurking.

MAC

I'm not considering the commercial value - it's certainly a factor - and they are probably best not using it as you suggest but I'd rather we lived in a world where there weren't chithouses trying to ruin people for something they have said or even just might have said several years ago.

Yes, people shouldn't just say whatever they want - even if it was ages ago - but I'd prefer to let somebody apologise for any mistakes and move on without losing their livelihood.

I can't say I'm a fan of Michael Vaughan but absolutely disgraceful the way he has been treated by the BBC.
 
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MAC

I'm not considering the commercial value - it's certainly a factor - and they are probably best not using it as you suggest but I'd rather we lived in a world where there weren't chithouses trying to ruin people for something they have said or even just might have said several years ago.

Yes, people shouldn't just say whatever they want - even if it was ages ago - but I'd prefer to let somebody apologise for any mistakes and move on without losing their livelihood.

I can't say I'm a fan of Michael Vaughan but absolutely disgraceful the way he has been treated by the BBC.

2020 what do you think the BBC should have done?
YCCC swept everything under their carpet until they couldn’t get away with not dealing with it any longer.

I don’t think the BBC could have kept MV going to be honest. They couldn’t take any chances in the circumstances could they?
 
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