We’re paying £54 million to France

Scaramanga said:
Interesting that you ignored the knife and the chap pissing in broad daylight
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I guarantee if you'd been in a dinghy for hours and hours you'd want a pee when you got onto land.

They'd carry a knife to fit right in in That There, where its compulsory.
 
Some utter garbage excuses on here. There’s are non so blind as those who will not see.
 
£56M to The French to Police OUR Borders, brilliant, thank Christ Dido Harding didn’t get the job!
 
Wizaard said:
Urban myth. You need to be a resident to receive benefits. Even ex pats have to wait a while before getting benefits on their return depending on where they've come from. The Habitual Residence Test.

And what happens if you're born overseas because your Mum and Dad are stationed abroad?
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so where are they housed and who pays for that who feeds them provides heat light etc the tax payer thats who so thats not a benefit then
and if your born over seas where your parents are stationed usually army base that base is classed as british soil you cannot make a comparison like that
 
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seasiderjohn said:
so where are they housed and who pays for that who feeds them provides heat light etc the tax payer thats who so thats not a benefit then
and if your born over seas where your parents are stationed usually army base that base is classed as british soil you cannot make a comparison like that
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It's not a benefit.
 
seasiderjohn said:
inhabitants per sq km
uk 275
germany 237
italy 203
france 123
spain 94
greece 83


all the countries above us have more room
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275 people per sq.km isn't exactly rammed is it? Looking at the numbers two things strike me, firstly Holland and Belgium have been omitted (wonder why?) secondly there isn't much in a lit of the figures when you consider geography. Greece consists of 1000s of islands to get that figure must be counting every last rock, much of inland Spain is mountainous or too hot.
 
Matesrates said:
Cheap way to get to France for your holiday. Wait for migrants to arrive in their dingy, use the dingy to go to France. Don’t forget your passport just in case.

If you get caught, claim asylum.
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No one wants to go/stay in France because all the freebie handouts are in our country hence all the rubber dinghy crossings it’s a one way ticket.

The French people must be pissing themselves laughing at us, £54m for basically saying “keep them coming”
 
Shandypants said:
275 people per sq.km isn't exactly rammed is it? Looking at the numbers two things strike me, firstly Holland and Belgium have been omitted (wonder why?) secondly there isn't much in a lit of the figures when you consider geography. Greece consists of 1000s of islands to get that figure must be counting every last rock, much of inland Spain is mountainous or too hot.
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because they take less and too hot in spain for syrians get a grip man we have mountains oh forgot no penines highlands or peak district you quote to suite yourself the fact is we are overcrowded losing more of our green space which has an effect on the wildlife and the environment
 
Wizaard said:
That's not how it works. The statement was, people come to claim benefits, and they can't.
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So we don’t put them in hotels feed them 3 meals a day and help them out with housing/jobs?

And that’s not a benefit?

It’s a bloody dream benefit to me.

We don’t even offer than to many of our ex forces guys out sleeping on the streets at night not to mention the hundreds of others who have absolutely fuck all yet arrive in a rubber boat from France and all of a sudden your a hotel guest being wined and dined.

Simply disgusting.
 
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Mexboroseasider said:
Rather than giving Wiz a hard time you’d be better directing your ire at Johnson and Patel. They are supposed to be in charge after all.
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not giving him a hard time just stating they benefit by it if any person cannot see this its the reason the are flooding in if they were housed in tents on the yorkshire moors instead of hotels would they still flood over here
 
seasiderjohn said:
because they take less and too hot in spain for syrians get a grip man we have mountains oh forgot no penines highlands or peak district you quote to suite yourself the fact is we are overcrowded losing more of our green space which has an effect on the wildlife and the environment
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Suite myself? Anyway an unpalatable fact is the West has a diminishing birthrate and an increasingly older population, who is going to support them? That's the white elephant in the room!
 
Shandypants said:
Suite myself? Anyway an unpalatable fact is the West has a diminishing birthrate and an increasingly older population, who is going to support them? That's the white elephant in the room!
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so we have immigrants coming over who have 4 or 5 children work until eligible for benefits most will be on low income so then they claim working tax child tax etc which takes more out of the pot than they put in thats another white elephant
 
seasiderjohn said:
so we have immigrants coming over who have 4 or 5 children work until eligible for benefits most will be on low income so then they claim working tax child tax etc which takes more out of the pot than they put in thats another white elephant
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Evidence please. Its a well known fact that immigrants to this country paid more in tax than they took out in benefits prior to Brexit.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
So we don’t put them in hotels feed them 3 meals a day and help them out with housing/jobs?

And that’s not a benefit?

It’s a bloody dream benefit to me.

We don’t even offer than to many of our ex forces guys out sleeping on the streets at night not to mention the hundreds of others who have absolutely fuck all yet arrive in a rubber boat from France and all of a sudden your a hotel guest being wined and dined.

Simply disgusting.
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No we don't. We put them in former barracks because we've slashed the armed forces, and they're not allowed to work until they have settled status.

It's these lies that have ruined the reputation of us as a tolerant society.
 
Accomodation unfit for human habitation I should add.
Wizaard said:
No we don't. We put them in former barracks because we've slashed the armed forces, and they're not allowed to work until they have settled status.

It's these lies that have ruined the reputation of us as a tolerant society.
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Wizaard said:
Evidence please. Its a well known fact that immigrants to this country paid more in tax than they took out in benefits prior to Brexit.
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they were working here family at home in poland etc claiming working tax and child tax also child benefit thats the fact watch the documentary showing building houses back home in poland on BENEFITS they received here laughing at our system

www.dailymail.co.uk

Poles are sending home £3bn a year...and we pay them £4.5m a week in benefits

Since then hundreds of thousands of Poles have flocked to Britain and, despite the recession, they are continuing to arrive in their thousands.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
 
seasiderjohn said:
they were working here family at home in poland etc claiming working tax and child tax also child benefit thats the fact watch the documentary showing building houses back home in poland on BENEFITS they received here laughing at our system

www.dailymail.co.uk

Poles are sending home £3bn a year...and we pay them £4.5m a week in benefits

Since then hundreds of thousands of Poles have flocked to Britain and, despite the recession, they are continuing to arrive in their thousands.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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seasiderjohn said:
they were working here family at home in poland etc claiming working tax and child tax also child benefit thats the fact watch the documentary showing building houses back home in poland on BENEFITS they received here laughing at our system

www.dailymail.co.uk

Poles are sending home £3bn a year...and we pay them £4.5m a week in benefits

Since then hundreds of thousands of Poles have flocked to Britain and, despite the recession, they are continuing to arrive in their thousands.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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And they paid far more than £4.5 million in tax. As I said. Thanks for providing the evidence. Even the Daily Mail agrees.
 
No wonder the Polish government bricked themselves over Brexit happening as the UK being in the EU solved part of their unemployment problem with 900,000 of their citizens over here. In the coming years they will have to fork out a lot more dole money.
 
Wizaard said:
And they paid far more than £4.5 million in tax. As I said. Thanks for providing the evidence. Even the Daily Mail agrees.
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where does it say they paid more than 4,5 m in tax majority are on minimum wage who pay very little in tax hence working tax etc
 
Wizaard said:
And they paid far more than £4.5 million in tax. As I said. Thanks for providing the evidence. Even the Daily Mail agrees.
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where does it say they paid more than 4,5 m in tax majority are on minimum wage who pay very little in tax hence working tax etc
The study also revealed that of the 390,000 Poles thought to be living in the UK around one in five – some 70,000 – are thought to be unemployed.

It would mean British taxpayers are forking out some £4.5million a week in unemployment benefit for migrants.
so what are they contributing to the pot
 
seasiderjohn said:
where does it say they paid more than 4,5 m in tax majority are on minimum wage who pay very little in tax hence working tax etc
The study also revealed that of the 390,000 Poles thought to be living in the UK around one in five – some 70,000 – are thought to be unemployed.

It would mean British taxpayers are forking out some £4.5million a week in unemployment benefit for migrants.
so what are they contributing to the pot
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Plus some of those that are working are sending child benefits back to Poland. I seem to remember a few years ago the figure was quoted as £1 million a year. I employed Polish people and a couple did just that. Quite a few would only work 16 hours a week so they could claim benefits, then worked another 20 or so hours cash in hand.

I also employed a lot of Portuguese, all from Madeira, who rents a room with their kids for a couple of months, then got evicted so they could get housed. One guy who worked for me got a three bedroom brand new detached house. He also was sending money back to Madeira to build a house there. After five years, he bought the council house at a huge discount
 
Wizaard said:
No we don't. We put them in former barracks because we've slashed the armed forces, and they're not allowed to work until they have settled status.

It's these lies that have ruined the reputation of us as a tolerant society.
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You mean like one of the barracks they burned down in Kent because they weren’t happy with the standards?

Yep they’ll be the one. 🙄
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
You mean like one of the barracks they burned down in Kent because they weren’t happy with the standards?

Yep they’ll be the one. 🙄
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You also mean the same shower that said they were treated disgustingly and wished they’d never come to the UK? Yep l remember them well!
 
catinstalbans said:
The one ruled to be unlawful to house asylum seekers. That one!
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You and I both know whatever is deemed unlawful it’s 10/20 times better than under canvas/plastic sheets in France.

Why don’t these people who deem it unlawful in this country comment on the conditions in France or indeed countries they’ve passed through en route? Why is it all of a sudden unlawful putting a proper roof over their heads and feeding them 3 square meals a day?
 
Sounds great value for money.

Manure paid £89.3 million for just 1 frenchman, and what a waste of money that was!!!
 
£54Million?
Sureky that would pay for a shuttle service to man the Channel Coast?
They would stop all dinghys/rowboats and any other water vehicles and return them to whichever Channel shore they sailed from.
It's getting stupid now, they just see the UK as an easy touch, and the French/Belgians are only too happy to help them over.
 
As I recall, we stumped up millions last year to help the French stop them crossing and as we’ve all seen their ships basically making sure they get safe passage out of their waters. So now we’re giving them more cash to help them get rid of migrants, who for some reason, don’t want to stay in France. Utterly ridiculous.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
So we don’t put them in hotels feed them 3 meals a day and help them out with housing/jobs?

And that’s not a benefit?

It’s a bloody dream benefit to me.

We don’t even offer than to many of our ex forces guys out sleeping on the streets at night not to mention the hundreds of others who have absolutely fuck all yet arrive in a rubber boat from France and all of a sudden your a hotel guest being wined and dined.

Simply disgusting.
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Conservatives been in charge for a long time, they know that this is the sort of thing that their voters are bothered about, I've no idea what asylum seekers and refugees get. I'm not bothered about it in the least, but anyone that is should research it, see what these people are given, and write to their MP if they are upset about desperate people wanting to come here instead of France, Germany, Greece or wherever and think they are getting too much.
Its a matter for the Conservative government, nobody else to blame, if it actually is a major problem for the UK.
 
gjr69 said:
Conservatives been in charge for a long time, they know that this is the sort of thing that their voters are bothered about, I've no idea what asylum seekers and refugees get. I'm not bothered about it in the least, but anyone that is should research it, see what these people are given, and write to their MP if they are upset about desperate people wanting to come here instead of France, Germany, Greece or wherever and think they are getting too much.
Its a matter for the Conservative government, nobody else to blame, if it actually is a major problem for the UK.
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Thanks a fair assumption.

As I said in an earlier comment it becomes a problem when we’re giving accommodation and feeding illegal immigrants when we have people of our own on the streets many ex armed forces who have become outcasts in today’s society.
 
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