Where Blackpool’s troubles really started.

Middxile

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We may, in our frustration, fire off brickbats at Managers, Players an even fellow posters on this Forum, but the root of Pool’s problems happened over 60 ago, long before many who frequent this forum were even born. On Jan 16th, 1961, the maximum wage for footballers was abolished. Up until that date, a footballer could only earn a maximum of £20/week in the season, and £17/week in Summer. Few of them were on that top rate. The day after that change, Pool released those players they felt were not absolutely necessary. Pool hung on in Div1 for about six years, but then slipped into Div 2. They nearly made it back in the following season, but lost out on goal average to QPR. They DID make it back two years later ( at Deepdale ), but only lasted one season in the top flight. Seven years in Div 2 preceded a 29 year stint bouncing between Divs 3 and 4. The Oystons had the Club. There was little or no investment. In 2007 Pool got back into Championship through astute management by Simon Grayson, who left after an approach from Leeds. Ollie arrived, and all the rules were broken, with Pool going straight through that fiercest of leagues. He defied the logic of Big Clubs always win because they generate more revenue through gate receipts and merchandising. It couldn’t last ! The Oystons resolutely refused to throw money at it and down we came again. Ollie nearly surpassed himself by bringing us up first time, but again, we fell short.
A drop to L1 followed in 2015, but with a new owner we came back in 2021. Sadly it didn’t last long, and we are where we are ! Blackpool are not a Big Club. We can’t compete with the “Haves”. Pool are an intermediate sized Club. There are plenty of smaller EFL Clubs, which are usually Town based, and a throwback to an Industrial past. Pool are a seaside resort which attracts the biggest crowds when football isn’t played. The Super Casino might have changed things, but that too evaporated. Pool have a loyal ( and vociferous ) fan base of 10k. but that isn’t enough to generate the kind of money needed to buy and pay the kind of player that the fan base would like to see in tangerine. Our best bet is probably to grow our own, and Pool are indeed pursuing that option.
TV religiously follows the Big Teams. They take the Lion’s share of the revenue, and often pay beyond even their means. They get a slap on the wrist. EFL teams get points deductions. Is it fair ? No !
A bit long winded I accept, but it all started in 1961. The day after that rule change ( in Court) Fulham offered Johnny Haynes £100/week, and the ball started rolling to what we see today.
It is what it is. I suppose we would love it if we were in that Big Club bracket, but we’re not. Most of our opponents this term will be about our size and level. The last time NC was here we had to wait a while until he settled on his best team. Let’s hope he does quickly. It’s hard to watch……. at the moment.
 
We may, in our frustration, fire off brickbats at Managers, Players an even fellow posters on this Forum, but the root of Pool’s problems happened over 60 ago, long before many who frequent this forum were even born. On Jan 16th, 1961, the maximum wage for footballers was abolished. Up until that date, a footballer could only earn a maximum of £20/week in the season, and £17/week in Summer. Few of them were on that top rate. The day after that change, Pool released those players they felt were not absolutely necessary. Pool hung on in Div1 for about six years, but then slipped into Div 2. They nearly made it back in the following season, but lost out on goal average to QPR. They DID make it back two years later ( at Deepdale ), but only lasted one season in the top flight. Seven years in Div 2 preceded a 29 year stint bouncing between Divs 3 and 4. The Oystons had the Club. There was little or no investment. In 2007 Pool got back into Championship through astute management by Simon Grayson, who left after an approach from Leeds. Ollie arrived, and all the rules were broken, with Pool going straight through that fiercest of leagues. He defied the logic of Big Clubs always win because they generate more revenue through gate receipts and merchandising. It couldn’t last ! The Oystons resolutely refused to throw money at it and down we came again. Ollie nearly surpassed himself by bringing us up first time, but again, we fell short.
A drop to L1 followed in 2015, but with a new owner we came back in 2021. Sadly it didn’t last long, and we are where we are ! Blackpool are not a Big Club. We can’t compete with the “Haves”. Pool are an intermediate sized Club. There are plenty of smaller EFL Clubs, which are usually Town based, and a throwback to an Industrial past. Pool are a seaside resort which attracts the biggest crowds when football isn’t played. The Super Casino might have changed things, but that too evaporated. Pool have a loyal ( and vociferous ) fan base of 10k. but that isn’t enough to generate the kind of money needed to buy and pay the kind of player that the fan base would like to see in tangerine. Our best bet is probably to grow our own, and Pool are indeed pursuing that option.
TV religiously follows the Big Teams. They take the Lion’s share of the revenue, and often pay beyond even their means. They get a slap on the wrist. EFL teams get points deductions. Is it fair ? No !
A bit long winded I accept, but it all started in 1961. The day after that rule change ( in Court) Fulham offered Johnny Haynes £100/week, and the ball started rolling to what we see today.
It is what it is. I suppose we would love it if we were in that Big Club bracket, but we’re not. Most of our opponents this term will be about our size and level. The last time NC was here we had to wait a while until he settled on his best team. Let’s hope he does quickly. It’s hard to watch……. at the moment.
There are teams in the PL that are no bigger than us, without the history we have.

In 2010/11 we had the chance to completely overhaul our future.

Instead, one owner illegitimately stripped £32.4m from the other owner; when this was paid back, it never got put back into the club.

So I make that £62.8m which could have completed the East and created a training and youth set up fit for the next 50 years.
 
I follow that the Oystons took most of the PL money, but SS had to pay about £10m for the Club ( did he not ? )
 
Great post and very true,maybe some of the new,modern want things now brigade or we will stamp our feet will read thoroughly and learn.
 
I believe there is still room for a well run club of our size in the Prem. Burnley, Brentford and Bournemouth can do it, so we can too. Beyond that, no. Only the massive clubs can win the Prem and the other silverware that's up for grabs.
 
The end of the maximum wage adversely affected, over time, clubs in towns worse than those in cities which had bigger catchment areas and more money coming through the turnstiles. Thirty years later this was exacerbated by the advent of the Premier League and the consequent Sky television deal, making the rich richer.

We happened to be a top club when the maximum wage was abolished, but that was pretty much a post-war phenomenon (yes I know we were top of the league for 6 years) due probably to the town's status during the war. But for most of our existence prior to that, that was not the case.

It wasn't inevitable that our 'problems' as the o/p phrases it stemmed from those two major events. There is in fact a history of clubs of our size - including us - of reaching the greed league and, like us, not staying there for long. But those clubs, like us, tended to have a history of lower league existence; 2nd, 3rd or even 4th division.

We shouldn't reasonably expect to be in the top league, we are however capable of holding our own in the second tier. The probable reason we're not there is still the legacy of the Stains and what we had to do to get them out.
 
What a fantastic opening statement, and so true, sadly. I'm not too bad at writing comments, especially when moaning, but that brought everything from 1961 into perspective and showed exactly why we are no longer classed as one of the top division clubs.
I know that last season's relegation has cost us about 7 or 8 million in TV money alone, so we have to virtually start from scratch again.
I've always been a believer in the phrase, 'Speculate To Accumulate' and a few well spent millions of pounds on players and wages this season should easily see us going straight back to the Championship again because we are a much bigger club than one having to wallow in Leagues One and Two for another few years.
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We may, in our frustration, fire off brickbats at Managers, Players an even fellow posters on this Forum, but the root of Pool’s problems happened over 60 ago, long before many who frequent this forum were even born. On Jan 16th, 1961, the maximum wage for footballers was abolished. Up until that date, a footballer could only earn a maximum of £20/week in the season, and £17/week in Summer. Few of them were on that top rate. The day after that change, Pool released those players they felt were not absolutely necessary. Pool hung on in Div1 for about six years, but then slipped into Div 2. They nearly made it back in the following season, but lost out on goal average to QPR. They DID make it back two years later ( at Deepdale ), but only lasted one season in the top flight. Seven years in Div 2 preceded a 29 year stint bouncing between Divs 3 and 4. The Oystons had the Club. There was little or no investment. In 2007 Pool got back into Championship through astute management by Simon Grayson, who left after an approach from Leeds. Ollie arrived, and all the rules were broken, with Pool going straight through that fiercest of leagues. He defied the logic of Big Clubs always win because they generate more revenue through gate receipts and merchandising. It couldn’t last ! The Oystons resolutely refused to throw money at it and down we came again. Ollie nearly surpassed himself by bringing us up first time, but again, we fell short.
A drop to L1 followed in 2015, but with a new owner we came back in 2021. Sadly it didn’t last long, and we are where we are ! Blackpool are not a Big Club. We can’t compete with the “Haves”. Pool are an intermediate sized Club. There are plenty of smaller EFL Clubs, which are usually Town based, and a throwback to an Industrial past. Pool are a seaside resort which attracts the biggest crowds when football isn’t played. The Super Casino might have changed things, but that too evaporated. Pool have a loyal ( and vociferous ) fan base of 10k. but that isn’t enough to generate the kind of money needed to buy and pay the kind of player that the fan base would like to see in tangerine. Our best bet is probably to grow our own, and Pool are indeed pursuing that option.
TV religiously follows the Big Teams. They take the Lion’s share of the revenue, and often pay beyond even their means. They get a slap on the wrist. EFL teams get points deductions. Is it fair ? No !
A bit long winded I accept, but it all started in 1961. The day after that rule change ( in Court) Fulham offered Johnny Haynes £100/week, and the ball started rolling to what we see today.
It is what it is. I suppose we would love it if we were in that Big Club bracket, but we’re not. Most of our opponents this term will be about our size and level. The last time NC was here we had to wait a while until he settled on his best team. Let’s hope he does quickly. It’s hard to watch……. at the moment.

Well we might as well give up all hope then. Whilst you are being congratulated for this post I personally see it as a load of sentimental, defeatist old bollocks.

When I was reading it I had Mark Lawrence's voice in my head.

"Well to be honest Gary there is no hope for the likes of Blackpool. Football was killed by Chinny Hill in 1798 wanting to put another farthing in his mam's pocket so there is literally no point in them continuing Gary. All I can see is dark, blackness with generations of misery and doom Gary."
 
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My worry is that women's football which in this country is run by the premier league clubs will take over from the championship
as the number 2 football league in terms of tv revenue and exposure. If England's women's team wins the world cup then tv executives
and the premier league club will push for the money that currently goes into lower league professional football clubs into women's football instead. Thus making the transition that Blackpool made from league two to the premier league impossible in the future.
 
My worry is that women's football which in this country is run by the premier league clubs will take over from the championship
as the number 2 football league in terms of tv revenue and exposure. If England's women's team wins the world cup then tv executives
and the premier league club will push for the money that currently goes into lower league professional football clubs into women's football instead. Thus making the transition that Blackpool made from league two to the premier league impossible in the future.
They are throwing big money at the women’s game for sure. I’ve noticed on the BBC the women's Premier league fixture list is put ahead of the championship which can only be down to pushing an agenda. You could be right🤷🏿‍♂️
 
My worry is that women's football which in this country is run by the premier league clubs will take over from the championship
as the number 2 football league in terms of tv revenue and exposure. If England's women's team wins the world cup then tv executives
and the premier league club will push for the money that currently goes into lower league professional football clubs into women's football instead. Thus making the transition that Blackpool made from league two to the premier league impossible in the future.
Leaving the country awash with dirty pans & plies of ironing. Double whammy.
 

The FSA have highlighted the hikes in ticket prices in their latest revue.

2023-24: Ticket prices reach record heights


'As we get into the 2023-24 season, it’s become clear that football fans across the country are coming out of a summer of ticket price hikes. Many clubs have raised their season ticket and matchday prices across the board despite the ongoing cost of living crisis.

With all 2023-24 season prices confirmed in the Premier League we can now see 17 of the 20 clubs have announced a price hike, some in double-digit percentages, despite the continued pressures on household budgets.

Across the division there's also a significant hike to matchday ticket pricing.'

Over £100 million being paid for players
Fantastic amounts of money being paid to mediocre players
SKY and other TV companies basically ruining the game by dictating when games shall be played.

It all adds up to what the original post says.
 
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We are starting from scratch again basically. If we could somehow reach the Prem again (which is possible as we’ve seen from past and present) then at least we have an owner that would use the funds sensibly.

The original Prem money should have improved the ground and improved the training ground. Then held enough back to give us 3 seasons of parachute and goodwill to get back in a second time. Second time round with the capital works done mainly we could have spent more on players and maybe agan improved our infrastructure?

Then if we’d have stayed up it was how to become a Palace or even a Burnley where the stays in the Prem got longer and the fam base grew. A drop to the CC would be a recalibrate and go again.
Instead we have to forget all that and do what we can to give ourselves that shot in the future.
 
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