'Will make an unpopular decision with fans if the board feel it's right'

FedoraExplorer

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Who the Hell does this board think we are! We have just spent 3 years boycotting the club we love so that we get in people who respect the fans and want us to be as much a part of the club as those who own and run it and they slap us in the face with a nonsense statement like this.

I am feeling increasingly disconnected from those running the club - Mansford and Gerrity can do one for me and bring back the blokes who came in and looked after the club when we first ousted the O's. At least they seemed to 'get' what the club was all about. I am actually fuming about this (sorry for creating another thread but I am so annoyed by that comment!)
 
All they needed to say was ' we will appoint who we think is right for the club'. The reference to the fans just stokes up the impression that the appointment will be unpopular or that fans haven't a valid opinion. It wasn't really necessary. The encouraging point from Scrafton was the comment about the board knowing the type of football that the fans like.
 
Looked at comments Matt's Twitter and because he says head coach people have seen Heckinbottom has been that but also so has lobera.

I'd be happy with the Spanish guy.

I'm hoping they mean unpopular in that it's not Evatt but still someone good, as he the obvious fans choice. I'd rather it be evatt but looks like it ain't happening.

Whereas no one has mentioned lobera much.
 
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Badly worded which he should have known better than really. As for who they appoint, as long as the style of play is clear and that's the sort of manager they go for then they will have my backing.
 
For goodness sake, the guy owns the club, we have to let him/them get on with the job without putting silly demands down. We (the fans) don't know the circumstances or context of why the comment was made about the board making a decision that might not be popular with the fans. Patience is a virtue, wait until we get a full account. And just to reiterate, they have every right to make a decision as a board!!!
 
I just think we have to stop assuming everyone is as bad as the O’s and give this lot a chance, including whoever the new manager is (...even if it is someone more underwhelming like Heckingbottom).
 
It's funny how we respond to things differently. I took that as an attempt to say :

* we are working on the problem

* it will take as long as it takes - be patient

* we do have a clear idea of what we want

* and it is what WE want that counts.....

* ..... so unsolicited advice will be noted, but that is all

I can't argue with any of that. It's what I would expect to be honest, and I don't see what some people are purporting to be upset by it.
 
Surely it couldn't be, could it ? Has my application for the post been successful ? I honestly wasn't holding out much hope tbh....
 
I like the fact that rather than a manager we have a headcoach. So signings are not the new managers flavour of the month and it allows some continuity if the head coach changes
 
Would love to know what their definition of unpopular choice is?! Why would you bring in someone who is going to get on fan's backs?

It's going to be John Beck isn't it ☹
 
bfcpete said:
All they needed to say was ' we will appoint who we think is right for the club'. The reference to the fans just stokes up the impression that the appointment will be unpopular or that fans haven't a valid opinion. It wasn't really necessary. The encouraging point from Scrafton was the comment about the board knowing the type of football that the fans like.
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I don’t think they’d have needed such a tone if we didn’t have an element of the fanbase who behave like babies every time they aren’t calling the shots.
I’m trusting in the board and owner to do what they think is right and with the best of intentions. That’s good enough for me 👍
 
They have to say that tbf. If the question is 'are you prepared to go against supporters wishes in the best interests of the club' they literally can't say 'no'

Evo in tho.
 
When Holloway was hired we were presented with a man who had walked out on Plymouth for the money and who then took Leicester down to Div 3 for the first time ever. I doubt Blackpool fans were popping the champagne at that point.

Whoever it is, give them a chance.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
When Holloway was hired we were presented with a man who had walked out on Plymouth for the money and who then took Leicester down to Div 3 for the first time ever. I doubt Blackpool fans were popping the champagne at that point.

Whoever it is, give them a chance.
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I was "popping champagne" after I heard him speak to the fans on the night of his appointment. Brilliant motivational speaker.
 
FedoraExplorer said:
Who the Hell does this board think we are! We have just spent 3 years boycotting the club we love so that we get in people who respect the fans and want us to be as much a part of the club as those who own and run it and they slap us in the face with a nonsense statement like this.

I am feeling increasingly disconnected from those running the club - Mansford and Gerrity can do one for me and bring back the blokes who came in and looked after the club when we first ousted the O's. At least they seemed to 'get' what the club was all about. I am actually fuming about this (sorry for creating another thread but I am so annoyed by that comment!)
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This was a very odd thing for Mansford to say - why make a dumb statement that risks irritating the supporters? It rings of "we're running the club and what we say goes"; which helps nobody.
 
Some real snowflakin fans,


Imo It would be good to develop an identity as an entertaining 'footballing side' but you can still lose lots of games & get relegated.
Then the cry will likely be get someone more pragmatic!




God it wasnt too long ago that people were saying they would take conference football to get rid of the Os.

Now we have a fan as owner who is making tangible investment & doing his very best to move the club forward.
He employs a previously successful manager & unfortunately that did not work out too well.
So we are now looking for another.

Fans should just get behind the team & cross our fingers the next manager does a decent job.

There are no guarantees when it comes to football management!

Get a grip FFS
 
It's a PR exercise where he has said a lot without telling MS anything of substance. He probably didn't want to do it, but in the modern world it is hard for people in his position to avoid it - especially when you consider the amount of emoting that has been going on on social media.

It doesn't actually read like an interview, more like a press statement.
 
"God it wasnt too long ago that people were saying they would take conference football to get rid of the Os"

The Oyston's have long since left the building so I think this often repeated lazy soundbite can be dropped now.

I have no beef with Sadler myself but others might have and I don't see why folk should have to wait for royal approval from the usual suspects before criticising Sadler, the board, the manager, the players or anything to do with the club.

It's as if those who are less than happy should have to wait for an exact happening or point in time before they are allowed to express dissatisfaction.
 
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Got to get it right this time or else there'll be hell from the fans.
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The voice of experience has nailed it.

Go ahead in your own way ignoring your fan/customer base and get it wrong and risk losing not only the feelgood factor but the last straw that long suffering fans have had to endure.

Yes I may get slaughtered for that, but I'm realistic and in touch. Grayson was sacked because fans were drifting away rather than an acknowledgement that the board had ballsed it up.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
"God it wasnt too long ago that people were saying they would take conference football to get rid of the Os"

The Oyston's have long since left the building so I think this often repeated lazy soundbite can be dropped now.

I have no beef with Sadler myself but others might have and I don't see why folk should have to wait for royal approval from the usual suspects before criticising Sadler, the board, the manager, the players or anything to do with the club.

It's as if those who are less than happy should have to wait for an exact happening or point in time before they are allowed to express dissatisfaction.
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That soundbite is used because it demonstrates the gap between what people SAY they will do or accept, and the reality, which is often very different.

This isn't a case of bestowing royal approval. It's more a case of people pointing out that making one petulant demand after another of the club's management team isn't likely to end well. Especially when many of the people doing all the shouting know very little about running any business, let alone one as difficult as this.

In the space of a few weeks we have had :

* the quality of football is shit (sometimes true)

* the results are shit (recently, yes)

* the fault lies entirely with the manager (no, it doesn't)

* sack the manager

* quick, replace the manager

* no, not with him

* yes, the shiny one over there who played for us once

* we'll sulk if you offer us anything else

You're perfectly entitled to do all of the above. And other people are equally entitled to suggest you are acting like bell ends when you do, and will deserve any of the bad consequences that might ensue.

I think the main problem with the club at the moment is the sense of entitlement that SOME people - by no means all - have. It seems that they want a smooth, linear path to glory and any support they MIGHT give the club is conditional upon that success being delivered. It's all a bit embarrassing, really.
 
I think you have provided a perfect demonstration of what I was saying Robbie.

Some supporters call for the managers head and other supporters say give him time and don't be so fickle/petulant/impatient.

Do those who were calling for Grayson's head - or expressing dissatisfaction re Sadler or anything to do with the club - have a sense of entitlement or did their opinion just differ from yours/other supporters ?

There is no exact point in time or certain happening when folk are allowed to start expressing dissatisfaction, I guess we will all have our own ideas on where we draw the line but if some folk draw the line in a different place or at a different time than your goodself, it just means that they hold differing views on matters and I don't see why it necessarily makes them any of the things that you - AND OTHERS - accuse them of and I don't know why you should be embarrassed.

To be honest, I agree with much of what you say re Grayson and Sadler but am not surprised - and certainly not embarrassed - that others don't.
 
Lala said:
I don’t think they’d have needed such a tone if we didn’t have an element of the fanbase who behave like babies every time they aren’t calling the shots.
I’m trusting in the board and owner to do what they think is right and with the best of intentions. That’s good enough for me 👍
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"I’m trusting in the board and owner to do what they think is right and with the best of intentions. That’s good enough for me."

Like me, some lost trust when the chiefs hired a manager in Grayson on the slide.

Pick another flop against many fans' wishes and a renewed boycott seems possible.
 
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