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I am not going to reveal my Identity but I will say that I played a pivotal part in the NAPM campaign and was unsuccessfully litigated against during the Oystons reign. Can someone please tell me why we are standing back and allowing our club to be run into the pits of the lower leagues again?

let's take some facts into account here, when OO took over he revealed plans for a new super stadium and training ground, those plans were false promises from a delusional man who had no intent. Fast forward to the present day and we find ourselves with an owner that whilst much more conservative in his plans has now announced that the training ground is being scrapped, this is a vital piece of the jigsaw for BFC. This is not good enough, managerial recruitment has been an utter shambles with the exception of the lucky procurement of Critchley. Squad investment is actually significantly less than a comparable period under the Oystons (2009/10 Championship seasons and 2011/12 Season). We waited far too long to stand up to owners last time that was ultimately judged on under-investment and false promises now it's starting all over again. How long do we as fans wait before we mandate BST to call an emergency to discuss the current owner and the false promises and lack of investment?

I have to say one thing stood out to me from the recent meeting minutes, despite the training ground being canceled, the lack of resources for the playing squad and the serious lack of funds for quality players to not only maintain championship status but be competitive, he still stated that he won't sell the club. Are we starting to see the whiff of another stubborn owner who won't look for investors for either partial or full ownership even if that is what is best for this club and us fans to help BFC achieve its highest achievable position?
 
airship salary said:
I am not going to reveal my Identity but I will say that I played a pivotal part in the NAPM campaign and was unsuccessfully litigated against during the Oystons reign. Can someone please tell me why we are standing back and allowing our club to be run into the pits of the lower leagues again?

let's take some facts into account here, when OO took over he revealed plans for a new super stadium and training ground, those plans were false promises from a delusional man who had no intent. Fast forward to the present day and we find ourselves with an owner that whilst much more conservative in his plans has now announced that the training ground is being scrapped, this is a vital piece of the jigsaw for BFC. This is not good enough, managerial recruitment has been an utter shambles with the exception of the lucky procurement of Critchley. Squad investment is actually significantly less than a comparable period under the Oystons (2009/10 Championship seasons and 2011/12 Season). We waited far too long to stand up to owners last time that was ultimately judged on under-investment and false promises now it's starting all over again. How long do we as fans wait before we mandate BST to call an emergency to discuss the current owner and the false promises and lack of investment?

I have to say one thing stood out to me from the recent meeting minutes, despite the training ground being canceled, the lack of resources for the playing squad and the serious lack of funds for quality players to not only maintain championship status but be competitive, he still stated that he won't sell the club. Are we starting to see the whiff of another stubborn owner who won't look for investors for either partial or full ownership even if that is what is best for this club and us fans to help BFC achieve its highest achievable position?
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Insider said:
Thanks for that Karl. How's your Dad. 😂
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Nice Try insider but I am being deadly serious, not sure if I am being harsh but I am trying to take out the emotion of him saving the club and look at things objectively. There is a lot of false promises, the hiring of Mansford was awful, the hiring of Appleton was bent as anything, the cancelation of the training ground is despicable and the under-investment in the playing side is woefull.
 
airship salary said:
Can someone please tell me why we are standing back and allowing our club to be run into the pits of the lower leagues again?
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Bit dramatic.

airship salary said:
actually significantly less than a comparable period under the Oystons (2009/10 Championship seasons and 2011/12 Season).
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2009/10 was VB’s cash, 2011/12 was a tiny fraction of the Prem money and the Charlie Adam sale. A tiny, tiny fraction.
 
Relegation will reduce the Club's income. This during a cost of living crisis.
airship salary said:
I am not going to reveal my Identity but I will say that I played a pivotal part in the NAPM campaign and was unsuccessfully litigated against during the Oystons reign. Can someone please tell me why we are standing back and allowing our club to be run into the pits of the lower leagues again?

let's take some facts into account here, when OO took over he revealed plans for a new super stadium and training ground, those plans were false promises from a delusional man who had no intent. Fast forward to the present day and we find ourselves with an owner that whilst much more conservative in his plans has now announced that the training ground is being scrapped, this is a vital piece of the jigsaw for BFC. This is not good enough, managerial recruitment has been an utter shambles with the exception of the lucky procurement of Critchley. Squad investment is actually significantly less than a comparable period under the Oystons (2009/10 Championship seasons and 2011/12 Season). We waited far too long to stand up to owners last time that was ultimately judged on under-investment and false promises now it's starting all over again. How long do we as fans wait before we mandate BST to call an emergency to discuss the current owner and the false promises and lack of investment?

I have to say one thing stood out to me from the recent meeting minutes, despite the training ground being canceled, the lack of resources for the playing squad and the serious lack of funds for quality players to not only maintain championship status but be competitive, he still stated that he won't sell the club. Are we starting to see the whiff of another stubborn owner who won't look for investors for either partial or full ownership even if that is what is best for this club and us fans to help BFC achieve its highest achievable position?
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Relegation will result in reduced income. This during a cost of living crisis and in a poor town. Tell me, where would you look to cut costs at a club that should aim to be competitive in League One?
 
basilexile said:
It has been on the back burner for some considerable time. In fairness the training ground didn't stop us getting to the promised land.
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It didn't but it will inevitably impact on the players who may consider signing for us.
Whilst they are no longer washing their own kit, we are being left behind with our lack of decent training facilities.
Whilst I am not of the opinion that lack of a decent training ground and associated facilities is solely responsible for the large number of hamstring injuries we have had recently, I can't help but wonder if it does play some part in them.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
Relegation will reduce the Club's income. This during a cost of living crisis.

Relegation will result in reduced income. This during a cost of living crisis and in a poor town. Tell me, where would you look to cut costs at a club that should aim to be competitive in League One?
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I would personally have preferred the training ground to have taken priority over a new East stand.
In Lge 1 it will be nowhere near full for 2/3rds of the visiting support.
 
We now have an owner who cares deeply for this wonderful club and is committing huge sums of money. Mistakes have been made and it has not been perfect this season has been a nightmare but i think club will get it right in the long run. Success to me would be having an established championship side and a club which can produce their own young talent. Would love to have higher aspirations but our history shows how difficult this is and average attendances in a deprived area are not fantastic. I do believe Simon Sadler is committed and we can hope for better times. Grateful we have him as owner far better than the previous owners.
 
A new stand isnt going to make us play any better, we played better that we do now when we only had two stands. Go down and we might get 6000 on if we are lucky. You need to get the footballing side right to attract fans that want to sit in a new stand, once fans want to come and watch a good game from a decent footballing side is the time to spend money on infrastucture, unless that is, you are thinking of selling at some point.
 
It makes me laugh that someone who is unknown [I understand why]has posted such b'llocks is unbelievable . We were lucky that we found someone to take the club on . Its not as if there was a queue to burn their money on a business that makes no profit. If those figures were correct in that meeting and the investment is going to be over 90 million in the coming years ,who else is going to do that? This unknown person needs a kick in the b'llocks.
 
Briggs5 said:
The man has committed to putting in nearly £100m of his own money over the next 10 years into running the club, building a new stand, and building a new training ground,

Granted, mistakes have been made in recruiting players and managers, but the moment you try to compare Sadler to the Oystons, you've lost the argument.
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I think you've missed a few 0's out Briggsy.
Most supporters want a team that can compete in the Championship (even the Nobber have achieved that). Promises to deliver capital projects give little satisfaction, when our team has won 1 game in 18 & we're on our way through the trapdoor to L1!
UTMP
 
Simon has been here for only 4 years........He's done more for Blackpool FC in that time than the Rapist & the Gimp did in 20
Don't get me wrong....He's done more for the.....club....
He's turning it from a Cash Cow generating money for the owners who care little about the fans...
into a profitable business that's being built for the future......to compete, to sustain and to turn Blackpool FC into something to be proud of
Not a car crash...

And if you don't like it.....Then you should have bought it......
How many clubs out there were bought by Businessmen, trying to make a quick buck by loading up on debt pushing for the Prem millions
Only to fail and leave a club buggered......

And lets be honest...the only person agreeing with the OP is Phil.........says it all....Couldn't run a bath, never mind a football club....
 
How did Pilley manage to get their training ground located and put up in a jiffy then? Why do we need to spend so much on a training ground too? We have been waiting for it forever and now it looks like it is going to take even more years if it happens at all.

I don't agree with all of the O/P or the way it was put, but there are some pertinent points there and those of you who just brush any criticism of Sadler & Mansford to one side are just sticking their fingers in their ears and singing "I'm not listening over and over again. The bullshit about how he saved our club by buying it, he was the only one, that's utter bollocks, the club would have sold if he hadn't bought it. He has done some good things but when you look at it we are staring league 1 in the face, few players left, no manager from the promising start, and we are just as far away from having a new training ground as we ever were. We have to have a new East Stand or we won\t have one at all, but a shiny new stand with a 5,000 capacity or more is going to sit there empty whilst we are in league 1. We should have invested in players and not signed such ridiculous managers but we haven't it's been a complete fuck up and if we carry on like this it won't be the Championship we will be aiming for it will be league 2. He has to up his game massively, just because he's the owner and a Pool fan, doesn't make him some super hero owner, he's made a lot of mistakes and he is continuing to do so, so we will have to see how things change this summer, see if he is learning.
 
airship salary said:
I am not going to reveal my Identity but I will say that I played a pivotal part in the NAPM campaign and was unsuccessfully litigated against during the Oystons reign. Can someone please tell me why we are standing back and allowing our club to be run into the pits of the lower leagues again?

let's take some facts into account here, when OO took over he revealed plans for a new super stadium and training ground, those plans were false promises from a delusional man who had no intent. Fast forward to the present day and we find ourselves with an owner that whilst much more conservative in his plans has now announced that the training ground is being scrapped, this is a vital piece of the jigsaw for BFC. This is not good enough, managerial recruitment has been an utter shambles with the exception of the lucky procurement of Critchley. Squad investment is actually significantly less than a comparable period under the Oystons (2009/10 Championship seasons and 2011/12 Season). We waited far too long to stand up to owners last time that was ultimately judged on under-investment and false promises now it's starting all over again. How long do we as fans wait before we mandate BST to call an emergency to discuss the current owner and the false promises and lack of investment?

I have to say one thing stood out to me from the recent meeting minutes, despite the training ground being canceled, the lack of resources for the playing squad and the serious lack of funds for quality players to not only maintain championship status but be competitive, he still stated that he won't sell the club. Are we starting to see the whiff of another stubborn owner who won't look for investors for either partial or full ownership even if that is what is best for this club and us fans to help BFC achieve its highest achievable position?
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Unbelievable. Some people!
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
It makes me laugh that someone who is unknown [I understand why]has posted such b'llocks is unbelievable . We were lucky that we found someone to take the club on . Its not as if there was a queue to burn their money on a business that makes no profit. If those figures were correct in that meeting and the investment is going to be over 90 million in the coming years ,who else is going to do that? This unknown person needs a kick in the b'llocks.
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Aren't you also unknown along with the rest of this site
 
hertfordseasider said:
How did Pilley manage to get their training ground located and put up in a jiffy then? Why do we need to spend so much on a training ground too? We have been waiting for it forever and now it looks like it is going to take even more years if it happens at all.

I don't agree with all of the O/P or the way it was put, but there are some pertinent points there and those of you who just brush any criticism of Sadler & Mansford to one side are just sticking their fingers in their ears and singing "I'm not listening over and over again. The bullshit about how he saved our club by buying it, he was the only one, that's utter bollocks, the club would have sold if he hadn't bought it. He has done some good things but when you look at it we are staring league 1 in the face, few players left, no manager from the promising start, and we are just as far away from having a new training ground as we ever were. We have to have a new East Stand or we won\t have one at all, but a shiny new stand with a 5,000 capacity or more is going to sit there empty whilst we are in league 1. We should have invested in players and not signed such ridiculous managers but we haven't it's been a complete fuck up and if we carry on like this it won't be the Championship we will be aiming for it will be league 2. He has to up his game massively, just because he's the owner and a Pool fan, doesn't make him some super hero owner, he's made a lot of mistakes and he is continuing to do so, so we will have to see how things change this summer, see if he is learning.
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I don't think many fans would disagree with any of that. I certainly don't. This season has been an utter disaster. Mistakes have been made on the playing side, and this is now a massive summer for SS to learn from those mistakes.

The issue for me, is when some fans, or maybe they arnt fans, come on here and almost demand the owner sells up and goes. The season has been shocking, but its not like we are going bust, taking fans to court, and showing absolutely no investment in the club. Its easy to ignore the good SS has done while we are playing so badly. Sometimes we need to take a step back, realise that we arnt so bad off, and take stock. SS faced covid, where I don't think anyone can say he didn't keep the club going from this own pocket. We even managed a promotion during those times.

If somehow we go down, and manage to challenge back up the top of league 1, will things really look that bad?
 
Mcewans Mullet said:
It didn't but it will inevitably impact on the players who may consider signing for us.
Whilst they are no longer washing their own kit, we are being left behind with our lack of decent training facilities.
Whilst I am not of the opinion that lack of a decent training ground and associated facilities is solely responsible for the large number of hamstring injuries we have had recently, I can't help but wonder if it does play some part in them.
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I just wonder how much of it is due to playing in unnatural positions and having to cover for players that are not in the right place? That is nothing to do with training, it's about selection and tactics.
 
Mcewans Mullet said:
I would personally have preferred the training ground to have taken priority over a new East stand.
In Lge 1 it will be nowhere near full for 2/3rds of the visiting support.
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I have some sympathy with that view. However, the East Stand may well be more tied into the early regeneration of Revoe, which might require its completion. Speculation on my part of course.
 
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hertfordseasider said:
How did Pilley manage to get their training ground located and put up in a jiffy then? Why do we need to spend so much on a training ground too? We have been waiting for it forever and now it looks like it is going to take even more years if it happens at all.

I don't agree with all of the O/P or the way it was put, but there are some pertinent points there and those of you who just brush any criticism of Sadler & Mansford to one side are just sticking their fingers in their ears and singing "I'm not listening over and over again. The bullshit about how he saved our club by buying it, he was the only one, that's utter bollocks, the club would have sold if he hadn't bought it. He has done some good things but when you look at it we are staring league 1 in the face, few players left, no manager from the promising start, and we are just as far away from having a new training ground as we ever were. We have to have a new East Stand or we won\t have one at all, but a shiny new stand with a 5,000 capacity or more is going to sit there empty whilst we are in league 1. We should have invested in players and not signed such ridiculous managers but we haven't it's been a complete fuck up and if we carry on like this it won't be the Championship we will be aiming for it will be league 2. He has to up his game massively, just because he's the owner and a Pool fan, doesn't make him some super hero owner, he's made a lot of mistakes and he is continuing to do so, so we will have to see how things change this summer, see if he is learning.
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It wasn’t utter bollocks at all. Name another credible bidder who the CAR could do business with in the timescale involved. If you can’t, you’re just guessing. Up to you what agenda you have, but expect to be called out.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Aren't you also unknown along with the rest of this site
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I am yes and because I speak my mind ,I hope to stay that way , but someone who comes on here and starts with I am not going to release my name .You know is going to write something that is meant to get peoples backs up,
I know me and you have strong differences of opinion and I am critical of some of the things you write, but I believe that what you write is what you actually think and I have no problem with that even though I do try and wind you up sometimes .
I think this post has been put out to purposely divide Blackpool fans and cause trouble . I don't think the writer of this believes a word of what he has written.
 
airship salary said:
I am not going to reveal my Identity but I will say that I played a pivotal part in the NAPM campaign and was unsuccessfully litigated against during the Oystons reign. Can someone please tell me why we are standing back and allowing our club to be run into the pits of the lower leagues again?

let's take some facts into account here, when OO took over he revealed plans for a new super stadium and training ground, those plans were false promises from a delusional man who had no intent. Fast forward to the present day and we find ourselves with an owner that whilst much more conservative in his plans has now announced that the training ground is being scrapped, this is a vital piece of the jigsaw for BFC. This is not good enough, managerial recruitment has been an utter shambles with the exception of the lucky procurement of Critchley. Squad investment is actually significantly less than a comparable period under the Oystons (2009/10 Championship seasons and 2011/12 Season). We waited far too long to stand up to owners last time that was ultimately judged on under-investment and false promises now it's starting all over again. How long do we as fans wait before we mandate BST to call an emergency to discuss the current owner and the false promises and lack of investment?

I have to say one thing stood out to me from the recent meeting minutes, despite the training ground being canceled, the lack of resources for the playing squad and the serious lack of funds for quality players to not only maintain championship status but be competitive, he still stated that he won't sell the club. Are we starting to see the whiff of another stubborn owner who won't look for investors for either partial or full ownership even if that is what is best for this club and us fans to help BFC achieve its highest achievable position?
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" played a pivotal role in NAPM"- so you are deffo not brr3 in disguise then.🤔
 
Dark_Side_of_the_Lune said:
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It wasn’t utter bollocks at all. Name another credible bidder who the CAR could do business with in the timescale involved. If you can’t, you’re just guessing. Up to you what agenda you have, but expect to be called out.
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If Sadler hadn't bought it then someone else would have, I don't know the names but there were some mentioned. I'm not saying Sadler hasn't done well for the club, he has on some levels, but the football side has been a shambles an d the training ground seems to be getting pushed further back. How did Pilley manage to get a training ground built so quickly, one that is fit for purpose and helps the community too yet we just can't get anything going?
 
hertfordseasider said:
If Sadler hadn't bought it then someone else would have, I don't know the names but there were some mentioned. I'm not saying Sadler hasn't done well for the club, he has on some levels, but the football side has been a shambles an d the training ground seems to be getting pushed further back. How did Pilley manage to get a training ground built so quickly, one that is fit for purpose and helps the community too yet we just can't get anything going?
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Wasn’t Poolfoot £1 for the land? Might have imagined that but would certainly help as a cheap starting point compared to what SS is forking out. You’ve had an agenda against SS from day one.
 
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hertfordseasider said:
How did Pilley manage to get their training ground located and put up in a jiffy then? Why do we need to spend so much on a training ground too? We have been waiting for it forever and now it looks like it is going to take even more years if it happens at all.

I don't agree with all of the O/P or the way it was put, but there are some pertinent points there and those of you who just brush any criticism of Sadler & Mansford to one side are just sticking their fingers in their ears and singing "I'm not listening over and over again. The bullshit about how he saved our club by buying it, he was the only one, that's utter bollocks, the club would have sold if he hadn't bought it. He has done some good things but when you look at it we are staring league 1 in the face, few players left, no manager from the promising start, and we are just as far away from having a new training ground as we ever were. We have to have a new East Stand or we won\t have one at all, but a shiny new stand with a 5,000 capacity or more is going to sit there empty whilst we are in league 1. We should have invested in players and not signed such ridiculous managers but we haven't it's been a complete fuck up and if we carry on like this it won't be the Championship we will be aiming for it will be league 2. He has to up his game massively, just because he's the owner and a Pool fan, doesn't make him some super hero owner, he's made a lot of mistakes and he is continuing to do so, so we will have to see how things change this summer, see if he is learning.
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Herts, You have hit the nail on the head, My OP may have been an angry and passionate rant from a very depressed seasider but the intent was that we as fans cannot keep letting these fuck ups slip and need to call the owner and the board out for their mistakes otherwise history tells us whats happens if we become passive.
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
I am yes and because I speak my mind ,I hope to stay that way , but someone who comes on here and starts with I am not going to release my name .You know is going to write something that is meant to get peoples backs up,
I know me and you have strong differences of opinion and I am critical of some of the things you write, but I believe that what you write is what you actually think and I have no problem with that even though I do try and wind you up sometimes .
I think this post has been put out to purposely divide Blackpool fans and cause trouble . I don't think the writer of this believes a word of what he has written.
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Wizard, I do. I have fought the fight once and I dont want to do it all again. My point is that we have BST now who are in a very strong position. If things start to tale a slippery path then they, and we as fans, need to step forward and demand answers from the owner before things get out of control. We have been filled with false promises previously and unfortunately I have a view on SS right now that I know not many share but I hope that i am proved wrong. Lets just say actions speak louder than words and he needs to act,
 
hertfordseasider said:
If Sadler hadn't bought it then someone else would have, I don't know the names but there were some mentioned. I'm not saying Sadler hasn't done well for the club, he has on some levels, but the football side has been a shambles an d the training ground seems to be getting pushed further back. How did Pilley manage to get a training ground built so quickly, one that is fit for purpose and helps the community too yet we just can't get anything going?
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There were no credible alternative bidders…

Simple as that…

So let’s stop pretending and give ourselves a reality check.

It’s all well and good being critical (and some of its deserved) but at the same time let’s ensure that our criticism is grounded in a reasonable and realistic expectation too.

First and foremost we don’t need a ** training ground… The one that we have is perfectly adequate for the time being. So there’s no rush to go out and build one immediately…In fact it makes sense to sit the current situation out until such time as material and construction costs fall back into sensible parameters…It’s an absolute non-issue right now!

We do need to get the East Stand sorted … We have had ongoing problems with getting Away Fans quickly and safely in and out of the ground, we’re operating a reduced capacity and the existing facilities are on their last legs.

The council are providing assistance, the project is beneficial to the local community and therefore it makes total sense to prioritise this project for now…. Why are we criticising? When it’s 100% the right way to go ?

Next we have the obvious issues…

We have absolutely, categorically and completely fucked up with the recruitment process over the past year or two… Both player & manager recruitment has been abysmal and it looks very likely it will cost us our place in the Championship.

That is something that the board needs to grapple with. There’s nobody else to blame…However, it’s an issue that we simply can’t get away from and as supporters we have to be realistic about what is possible when trying to work within sensible budgetary constraints…

There are no mega rich suitors out there who are willing to throw away tens of millions to fund our club in the transfer markets….. That’s our reality…
 
O/p
So would you have preferred oo to continue?
If so we would have gone bust with covid!
We still have a club, saved by Simon, so support him rather than criticise.
However I do agree it seems like we need investors, if there are any!
 
I suppose all those commenting would have got it right first time and we’d be sat at the top of the championship now ??

Never mind the training ground, get them on the sand dunes and toughen them up, and ban headphones and phones while your at it and get the team bonding.

Anyway utp!!! Wrap up warm tonight 😀
 
airship salary said:
I am not going to reveal my Identity but I will say that I played a pivotal part in the NAPM campaign and was unsuccessfully litigated against during the Oystons reign. Can someone please tell me why we are standing back and allowing our club to be run into the pits of the lower leagues again?

let's take some facts into account here, when OO took over he revealed plans for a new super stadium and training ground, those plans were false promises from a delusional man who had no intent. Fast forward to the present day and we find ourselves with an owner that whilst much more conservative in his plans has now announced that the training ground is being scrapped, this is a vital piece of the jigsaw for BFC. This is not good enough, managerial recruitment has been an utter shambles with the exception of the lucky procurement of Critchley. Squad investment is actually significantly less than a comparable period under the Oystons (2009/10 Championship seasons and 2011/12 Season). We waited far too long to stand up to owners last time that was ultimately judged on under-investment and false promises now it's starting all over again. How long do we as fans wait before we mandate BST to call an emergency to discuss the current owner and the false promises and lack of investment?

I have to say one thing stood out to me from the recent meeting minutes, despite the training ground being canceled, the lack of resources for the playing squad and the serious lack of funds for quality players to not only maintain championship status but be competitive, he still stated that he won't sell the club. Are we starting to see the whiff of another stubborn owner who won't look for investors for either partial or full ownership even if that is what is best for this club and us fans to help BFC achieve its highest achievable position?
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Pretty unrealistic post in my opinion, without Simon we would be fcuked. Also if you were litigated against then you know me and my personal phone number. Prove your not just another trouble maker by texting me personally as to who you are, don’t worry it won’t go any further but at the moment I’m personally not impressed 👎
 
hertfordseasider said:
How did Pilley manage to get their training ground located and put up in a jiffy then? Why do we need to spend so much on a training ground too? We have been waiting for it forever and now it looks like it is going to take even more years if it happens at all.

I don't agree with all of the O/P or the way it was put, but there are some pertinent points there and those of you who just brush any criticism of Sadler & Mansford to one side are just sticking their fingers in their ears and singing "I'm not listening over and over again. The bullshit about how he saved our club by buying it, he was the only one, that's utter bollocks, the club would have sold if he hadn't bought it. He has done some good things but when you look at it we are staring league 1 in the face, few players left, no manager from the promising start, and we are just as far away from having a new training ground as we ever were. We have to have a new East Stand or we won\t have one at all, but a shiny new stand with a 5,000 capacity or more is going to sit there empty whilst we are in league 1. We should have invested in players and not signed such ridiculous managers but we haven't it's been a complete fuck up and if we carry on like this it won't be the Championship we will be aiming for it will be league 2. He has to up his game massively, just because he's the owner and a Pool fan, doesn't make him some super hero owner, he's made a lot of mistakes and he is continuing to do so, so we will have to see how things change this summer, see if he is learning.
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Agreed on this point - the training centre is of utmost importance if we want to develop home grown talent. The Pilley point is completely pertinent in that it seemed to spring up overnight - whereas we're still looking at an empty field on Garstang road - if the will was there then ground would have been broken by now.
 
I think one thing this thread shows is that no amount of money spent on the club will ever be enough for some people.

If SS had spent £20m on players in January, there would be people demanding he spends more in the summer.

The playing side has been a shambles this season, but it needs to be run sensibly, based on the reality of our situation. Also, there are countless examples of clubs chucking money at it and not being successful and getting into financial difficulty.

Hopefully, we'll go back to the model where we buy players who we improve, sell on, and reinvest that money into the club.
 
Something tells me Mosser wont be getting a text or a phone call....!!!

And just to add Airship.....I take it if you are depressed because of one season
You must have been over the moon for the last 3 then
New managers, promotion, mid table Championship finish on League 1 wages.......It's just one season out of 4 that's been a bit shit
But you (and some others) seem to forget the other 75% of doing very, very well and are just focusing on this season....

If (sorry...when) we go down, we will appoint a new manager and have a promotion push back to the Championship...you going to bitch again?

The boys done good.....give him 3 good years out of 4.....could be worse, you could be waiting for your whole club to implode when the family who have invested £90m pull the plug and watch as youre club heads towards administration and oblivion.....Now I would be pissed at that....!!!
 
hertfordseasider said:
How did Pilley manage to get their training ground located and put up in a jiffy then? Why do we need to spend so much on a training ground too? We have been waiting for it forever and now it looks like it is going to take even more years if it happens at all.

I don't agree with all of the O/P or the way it was put, but there are some pertinent points there and those of you who just brush any criticism of Sadler & Mansford to one side are just sticking their fingers in their ears and singing "I'm not listening over and over again. The bullshit about how he saved our club by buying it, he was the only one, that's utter bollocks, the club would have sold if he hadn't bought it. He has done some good things but when you look at it we are staring league 1 in the face, few players left, no manager from the promising start, and we are just as far away from having a new training ground as we ever were. We have to have a new East Stand or we won\t have one at all, but a shiny new stand with a 5,000 capacity or more is going to sit there empty whilst we are in league 1. We should have invested in players and not signed such ridiculous managers but we haven't it's been a complete fuck up and if we carry on like this it won't be the Championship we will be aiming for it will be league 2. He has to up his game massively, just because he's the owner and a Pool fan, doesn't make him some super hero owner, he's made a lot of mistakes and he is continuing to do so, so we will have to see how things change this summer, see if he is learning.
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Simon should never be compared to the Stains...ever, and Im ever grateful for his contribution. However I have to agree with Herts (and have done for a period of time) with his comments. Something hasn't quite felt right for a while and I seriously think Mansford et al have underperformed and made some seriously bad errors in running the Club.

Recruitment of players and appointment of Managers has been nothing short of abysmal.
 
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