Pull the plug on the whole lot Simon

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Memphisboy

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The fan base don’t deserve you. The personal vindictive abuse I’ve read on social media that you’ve had to endure has been an absolute disgrace. I know and I’m sure you know that these people probably aren’t the brightest but why put up with it. If it was me writing cheques every month covering the shortfall I’d certainly call it a day. Then instead of demands for big money transfers we can just return to the decades before you took over when we’d wait for the free transfer list to arrive, leave it 6 weeks and swoop for the desperadoes still on it. Then the gobs on social media can moan all they like but they won’t know who to target as the board will consist of a local butcher, car dealer and some wideboy property dealer who has a few flats on the go.
 
Memphisboy said:
The fan base don’t deserve you. The personal vindictive abuse I’ve read on social media that you’ve had to endure has been an absolute disgrace. I know and I’m sure you know that these people probably aren’t the brightest but why put up with it. If it was me writing cheques every month covering the shortfall I’d certainly call it a day. Then instead of demands for big money transfers we can just return to the decades before you took over when we’d wait for the free transfer list to arrive, leave it 6 weeks and swoop for the desperadoes still on it. Then the gobs on social media can moan all they like but they won’t know who to target as the board will consist of a local butcher, car dealer and some wideboy property dealer who has a few flats on the go.
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Honest question Memphis. I only do this site. I don't do twitface. On here we're fairly reasonable with the occasional *****. What's happening out in the big world?
 
The key two words in your post, Memphis - social media.

It is a fad these days to overly and unfairly criticise things which don’t deserve it.

As 1966 said, I don’t read tw@tter. I don’t even want to acknowledge its existence.

UTMP and we’ve got Simon Sadler - he knows what we’re after. It just might take a bit more time.
 
Graves said:
The key two words in your post, Memphis - social media.

It is a fad these days to overly and unfairly criticise things which don’t deserve it.

As 1966 said, I don’t read tw@tter. I don’t even want to acknowledge its existence.

UTMP and we’ve got Simon Sadler - he knows what we’re after. It just might take a bit more time.
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I think you’re right about social media.

Football fans have always had very vocal and strident views. They were usually expressed in the pub post match and more often than not the loudmouth would be ridiculed and shouted down by his mates for being a dickhead. And then everyone would laugh.

Because it’s written, social media has the impression of being more relevant and more permanent than post match bollux shouted in the pub.

It isn’t. And shouldn’t be taken so seriously.
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
Our fan base are the product of the Oystons
I worry sometimes there’s no balance
On what planet do any of us think it’s appropriate to hound a good man and a good owner because we were relegated from a division we have spent perhaps 10 years in the last 40
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I still think it’s a minority of the intellectually challenged that are doing so?

If you’ve got a route into Simon, let him know we are hurting but we want a clear plan that we can all get behind. Then it’ll be all the more sweeter when one of our own, who knows what we after, delivered another promotion campaign.

That day at Wembley when Kenny scored two not one, felt amazing as we were all one together.

Don’t let them destroy this.
 
I haven't seen Sadler getting the sort of abuse MB is talking about on here, not at all. I think 99.9% of us think he has been let down by those around him and his inexperience is a weakness because of that.

I would think it more likely that he is thinking "Was it the right thing to do 5 years ago?" I wouldn't Balme him if he was looking for a new buyer, not because of a few things on social media, but because he has a young family and a business empire he needs to keep on the ball with.

I personally think he has been naive, had over and possibly a bit arrogant but I'm sure he will have learnt a lot this season and he is going to have a clean sheet to work with, which is stressful but it can also be a really positive thing. I think he will rise from the last 18 months and turn things round, but he won't do it with Mansford there. Someone else said on another thread that he mustn't think he can do it all himself, he needs to get a really experienced board of people who know football and who will shout Blackpool from the rooftops, no more little Blackpool, I never want to hear that again.
 
Seaside shuffle said:
Some buffoons don't realise how fortunate we are to have Simon Sadler. Cartmell, Chadwick ,Oyston..........................what short memories some people have.
Stick with it Simon please!
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Fully agree. No one is doubting mistakes have been made but they’ll have been made in good faith. Every managerial appointment is a risk but some of the comments I’ve read, jeez. He comes to most games, investing in the infrastructure the unfashionable side of owning a club but he’s done it, even when they were painting the outside of the ground the other season, it shows a pride in the club. Short of getting a sheikh prepared to pump a billion in we’d never get an owner as good as SS.
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
Our fan base are the product of the Oystons
I worry sometimes there’s no balance
On what planet do any of us think it’s appropriate to hound a good man and a good owner because we were relegated from a division we have spent perhaps 10 years in the last 40
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Spot on TAM coupled with the fact perhaps we lost a generation of young fans during the boycott years who think they are entitled having never experienced the reality of the ups and downs of football particularly BFC 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
 
hertfordseasider said:
I haven't seen Sadler getting the sort of abuse MB is talking about on here, not at all. I think 99.9% of us think he has been let down by those around him and his inexperience is a weakness because of that.

I would think it more likely that he is thinking "Was it the right thing to do 5 years ago?" I wouldn't Balme him if he was looking for a new buyer, not because of a few things on social media, but because he has a young family and a business empire he needs to keep on the ball with.

I personally think he has been naive, had over and possibly a bit arrogant but I'm sure he will have learnt a lot this season and he is going to have a clean sheet to work with, which is stressful but it can also be a really positive thing. I think he will rise from the last 18 months and turn things round, but he won't do it with Mansford there. Someone else said on another thread that he mustn't think he can do it all himself, he needs to get a really experienced board of people who know football and who will shout Blackpool from the rooftops, no more little Blackpool, I never want to hear that again.
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Even in that post you can’t resist a couple of snide comments can you. Mansford doesn’t play, pick the team, choose the players etc he’ll work within the parameters of his budget so once the manager is in place he doesn’t influence the results on the pitch one bit, this drivel about there has to be a fall guy because we’ve been relegated is nonsense.
 
Memphisboy said:
Even in that post you can’t resist a couple of snide comments can you. Mansford doesn’t play, pick the team, choose the players etc he’ll work within the parameters of his budget so once the manager is in place he doesn’t influence the results on the pitch one bit, this drivel about there has to be a fall guy because we’ve been relegated is nonsense.
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Your point was about Sadler not Mansford and I think you'll end you're in the minority about Mansford. I am optimistic, no digs, just opinions but people like you don't like people with opinions who differ with yours, there are plenty of you, sadly.
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
Our fan base are the product of the Oystons
I worry sometimes there’s no balance
On what planet do any of us think it’s appropriate to hound a good man and a good owner because we were relegated from a division we have spent perhaps 10 years in the last 40
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Spot on.

Unless someone has a billionaire under their bed, we’re unlikely to get anyone better than Mr Sadler… and it could get worse.

Mr Fielding is also correct in citing the fan base as a product of the Oyston era. Lots of people made names for themselves in that era, and some of them are missing the limelight.
 
TKL_Seasider said:
Spot on.

Unless someone has a billionaire under their bed, we’re unlikely to get anyone better than Mr Sadler… and it could get worse.

Mr Fielding is also correct in citing the fan base as a product of the Oyston era. Lots of people made names for themselves in that era, and some of them are missing the limelight.
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I think the first paragraph is largely right, but we don't control if he keeps or sells the club, I think in the last 18 months he will have learnt so much and will to make the same mistakes again, so I think we will reset and be fine going forward.

The second paragraph is spoken like a true mushroom and a load of old bollocks.
 
Memphisboy said:
Even in that post you can’t resist a couple of snide comments can you. Mansford doesn’t play, pick the team, choose the players etc he’ll work within the parameters of his budget so once the manager is in place he doesn’t influence the results on the pitch one bit, this drivel about there has to be a fall guy because we’ve been relegated is nonsense.
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Well said Memphis lad.
 
hertfordseasider said:
I haven't seen Sadler getting the sort of abuse MB is talking about on here, not at all. I think 99.9% of us think he has been let down by those around him and his inexperience is a weakness because of that.

I would think it more likely that he is thinking "Was it the right thing to do 5 years ago?" I wouldn't Balme him if he was looking for a new buyer, not because of a few things on social media, but because he has a young family and a business empire he needs to keep on the ball with.

I personally think he has been naive, had over and possibly a bit arrogant but I'm sure he will have learnt a lot this season and he is going to have a clean sheet to work with, which is stressful but it can also be a really positive thing. I think he will rise from the last 18 months and turn things round, but he won't do it with Mansford there. Someone else said on another thread that he mustn't think he can do it all himself, he needs to get a really experienced board of people who know football and who will shout Blackpool from the rooftops, no more little Blackpool, I never want to hear that again.
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Sorry mate but you’re the one who is coming across as a bit naive.

You’ve been calling for Sadler to get rid of the board for months. Recently you’ve been bemoaning the fact Sadler is now going to be on his own without any support.

You seem to think replacing all the board and back room staff with state of the art experts, and then replacing pretty much the whole team, is a pretty simple task and easily accomplished before the start of the next season.

And the cherry on the cake is that, if Sadler can’t do it, then he should on step aside and sell up. All presumably within the next week and to go knows who.

Seriously. Get real.
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
Our fan base are the product of the Oystons
I worry sometimes there’s no balance
On what planet do any of us think it’s appropriate to hound a good man and a good owner because we were relegated from a division we have spent perhaps 10 years in the last 40
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I think you give them too much credit TAM saying they are a ‘product of the Oystons’ as though that makes it acceptable or excusable in some way.

It should, if anything, make for a more grateful fanbase.

What we have are some spoilt, entitled and occasionally nasty fans ( albeit hopefully just a few) and they need to be ignored, but for SS that’s probably easier said than done 😕
 
Mexboroseasider said:
Sorry mate but you’re the one who is coming across as a bit naive.

You’ve been calling for Sadler to get rid of the board for months. Recently you’ve been bemoaning the fact Sadler is now going to be on his own without any support.

You seem to think replacing all the board and back room staff with state of the art experts, and then replacing pretty much the whole team, is a pretty simple task and easily accomplished before the start of the next season.

And the cherry on the cake is that, if Sadler can’t do it, then he should on step aside and sell up. All presumably within the next week and to go knows who.

Seriously. Get real.
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I'm not saying that at all, I know it is going to take time, I am glad there is a clear out, it had to happen and it has. He needs to get the manager appointment right and if Mansford is going then one would hope he has someone waiting to take over, if not then we are going to struggle until the new board is in place. I never mentioned time spans and I obviously understand that it could be difficult. I have also said the next 12 months will be pivotal. if he gets it right then things ill be fine. If he flounders and fails then he really will be in trouble.

We don't need to replace the whole team but we need to get rid of the deadwood and certain players will want to move on so we will need a lot of players. If we don't have the board in place pretty soon then we will really struggle again next season.

Again, if he wants to sell the club then he will and if it takes 2 or 3 years then that's how long it takes. I'm just trying to be positive about next season but I am fully aware it could all go tits up.
 
Lala said:
I think you give them too much credit TAM saying they are a ‘product of the Oystons’ as though that makes it acceptable or excusable in some way.

It should, if anything, make for a more grateful fanbase.

What we have are some spoilt, entitled and occasionally nasty fans ( albeit hopefully just a few) and they need to be ignored, but for SS that’s probably easier said than done 😕
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Yep Lala see my #16
 
hertfordseasider said:
I'm not saying that at all, I know it is going to take time, I am glad there is a clear out, it had to happen and it has. He needs to get the manager appointment right and if Mansford is going then one would hope he has someone waiting to take over, if not then we are going to struggle until the new board is in place. I never mentioned time spans and I obviously understand that it could be difficult. I have also said the next 12 months will be pivotal. if he gets it right then things ill be fine. If he flounders and fails then he really will be in trouble.

We don't need to replace the whole team but we need to get rid of the deadwood and certain players will want to move on so we will need a lot of players. If we don't have the board in place pretty soon then we will really struggle again next season.

Again, if he wants to sell the club then he will and if it takes 2 or 3 years then that's how long it takes. I'm just trying to be positive about next season but I am fully aware it could all go tits up.
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Well you say you know it’s going to take time but then you say we need “the board in place pretty soon” or we’re going to struggle next season.

Put simply you want the new manager, infrastructure and players in place so we hit the next season up and running like a finely tuned Bentley.

So essentially all Sadler needs to do is pop to the local “Managers, Boards and Players ‘R us” supermarket and buy the whole shebang off the shelf.

Slaps forehead. Well feck me. It’s so bleeding obvious.
 
Lala said:
I think you give them too much credit TAM saying they are a ‘product of the Oystons’ as though that makes it acceptable or excusable in some way.

It should, if anything, make for a more grateful fanbase.

What we have are some spoilt, entitled and occasionally nasty fans ( albeit hopefully just a few) and they need to be ignored, but for SS that’s probably easier said than done 😕
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You are bang on Lala in calling out the growing cult of entitlement. Social media and the me culture don't help. This point is not against freedom of expression of opinion by the way.
 
Mexboroseasider said:
Well you say you know it’s going to take time but then you say we need “the board in place pretty soon” or we’re going to struggle next season.

Put simply you want all the new manager, infrastructure and players in place so we hit the next season up and running like a finely tuned Bentley.

So essentially all Sadler needs to do is pop to the local “Managers, Boards and Players ‘R us” supermarket and buy the whole shebang off the shelf.

Slaps forehead. Well feck me. It’s so bleeding obvious.
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He will have been planning for this, it won't be just something he's going to start doing now. Plus it's business, he can't faff around and he can't do it all on his own, you're just being deliberately obtuse, you are right, I am glad it is all going to change, but it isn't going to take months to replace people, if it does then we are going to be playing catch up and we have to be ready to hit the ground running in June otherwise we will miss out on another transfer window again, surely that isn't going to happen again is it? If it does then I'm afraid we're fucked.
 
Memphisboy said:
Even in that post you can’t resist a couple of snide comments can you. Mansford doesn’t play, pick the team, choose the players etc he’ll work within the parameters of his budget so once the manager is in place he doesn’t influence the results on the pitch one bit, this drivel about there has to be a fall guy because we’ve been relegated is nonsense.
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I think with the Mansford thing it’s just a case of one or two people picking him out as a fall guy and others jump on board and before you know it he’s getting dogs abuse without a shred of evidence that he’s actually done anything wrong or is actually as bad as they’re making out. They don’t back up their claims.
None of us knows what goes on behind closed doors, but some put 2 and 2 together and get 5.
With regards to this “rich Arab” thing that keeps getting mentioned, I for one certainly hope it never happens. I support Blackpool for a reason. If I wanted that I’d just drive 20 minutes down the road to support Man City.
 
traffordtang said:
I think with the Mansford thing it’s just a case of one or two people picking him out as a fall guy and others jump on board and before you know it he’s getting dogs abuse without a shred of evidence that he’s actually done anything wrong or is actually as bad as they’re making out. They don’t back up their claims.
None of us knows what goes on behind closed doors, but some put 2 and 2 together and get 5.
With regards to this “rich Arab” thing that keeps getting mentioned, I for one certainly hope it never happens. I support Blackpool for a reason. If I wanted that I’d just drive 20 minutes down the road to support Man City.
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so a CEO who is on 300k pa and is responsible for running the club ,recruitment of players and managers and getting players to sign contracts isn't evidence. If that's not his responsibility then whose is it? Jeez, give me a job for 300k pa with no responsibility please.
 
XBeds-Now-Kings_Meaburn said:
Some on here and fb giving SS plenty of stick🙄
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A small minority of noisy people usually.

I think most appreciate that whilst mistakes have been made and need to be rectified, it's nothing like the past and we have an owner who cares.

A bit of stick when things go bad and praise when it goes good is part of the territory, social media is known for it so tbh the board need to be able to listen to fans, but tune out of some of the nonsense.
 
hertfordseasider said:
He will have been planning for this, it won't be just something he's going to start doing now. Plus it's business, he can't faff around and he can't do it all on his own, you're just being deliberately obtuse, you are right, I am glad it is all going to change, but it isn't going to take months to replace people, if it does then we are going to be playing catch up and we have to be ready to hit the ground running in June otherwise we will miss out on another transfer window again, surely that isn't going to happen again is it? If it does then I'm afraid we're fucked.
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Well it’s 1st May tomorrow and you’ve just admitted you expect the new board, the new manager and all the new staff to be in situ in 4 weeks. (Three really as the season doesn’t end for another week). But it’s me who’s being obtuse 😂 😂

And if Sadler can’t make your impossible deadline then we’re fucked. And it’s his fault.

Yes. That’s fair.
 
The hypocrisy on this thread is sad. Sadler is judged on results which by the way is exactly how he judges his peers in financing or any business judges its employees in order to thrive. We are back where we were with the Oystons as far as club position goes because of a litany of poor choices and that is on him.
 
FLATBACKFOR said:
People keep referring to the board, there's really only one person on this board by all accounts. It's been mentioned on here the sooner
SS brings some experienced people onto this board the better.
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Mansford is very experienced. Getting it right all the time is difficult.
 
Lala said:
I think you give them too much credit TAM saying they are a ‘product of the Oystons’ as though that makes it acceptable or excusable in some way.

It should, if anything, make for a more grateful fanbase.

What we have are some spoilt, entitled and occasionally nasty fans ( albeit hopefully just a few) and they need to be ignored, but for SS that’s probably easier said than done 😕
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"Should"... I like "should".

Much better than reality...

Why can't we have "should"? ☹️
 
TKL_Seasider said:
Spot on.

Unless someone has a billionaire under their bed, we’re unlikely to get anyone better than Mr Sadler… and it could get worse.

Mr Fielding is also correct in citing the fan base as a product of the Oyston era. Lots of people made names for themselves in that era, and some of them are missing the limelight.
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What a load of ** nonsense that last sentence is

I do however agree that fans are more engaged in boardroom matters due to what's happened before

I actually think that's a good thing
 
Mexboroseasider said:
Well it’s 1st May tomorrow and you’ve just admitted you expect the new board, the new manager and all the new staff to be in situ in 4 weeks. (Three really as the season doesn’t end for another week). But it’s me who’s being obtuse 😂 😂

And if Sadler can’t make your impossible deadline then we’re fucked. And it’s his fault.

Yes. That’s fair.
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Surely the board have been planning for this since January

That's 5 months

And if they haven't been planning for relegation and needing a new manager then they are more clueless than I thought
 
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Back to the OP and TAMs post.

I think SS has now realised that social media abuse is a stand alone thing and pretty much the bottom 10% of our fan base, in multiple ways.

Very rarely have I seen the negativity on here translate to the ground. The last 2 home games was simply a loyal, committed and understanding fan base, willing the team on and will be here next season. SS said that when he meets people in person they always say “thanks and ignore the lunatics online”, which is exactly what I’d say.

Therefore the O/P is responding to online support, not in person support and as along as SS judges humans not screens he won’t see the need to sell.
 
Mexboroseasider said:
I think you’re right about social media.

Football fans have always had very vocal and strident views. They were usually expressed in the pub post match and more often than not the loudmouth would be ridiculed and shouted down by his mates for being a dickhead. And then everyone would laugh.

Because it’s written, social media has the impression of being more relevant and more permanent than post match bollux shouted in the pub.

It isn’t. And shouldn’t be taken so seriously.
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Spot on. This entire discussion would be so much more enjoyable and productive if it was held in a pub with the beers flowing.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Surely the board have been planning for this since January

That's 5 months

And if they haven't been planning for relegation and needed a new manager then they are more clueless than I thought
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I’m sure ideas would have been floated in January for next season. But would they have known for certain in January who would, and who wouldn’t, be available in June?

I agree you can plan in advance based on certain assumptions. But if those assumptions don’t come to fruition then the plan will go a bit awry.

Seems to me you can only plan with any certainty when you know the true picture. And even then the targets will have their own plans which may not dovetail with ours. It is a negotiation after all.

So it’s a bit more complicated than saying “We want him. Now get him. To start on Monday”.

Which is what some people seem to think is how it works. And when it doesn’t happen it’s because someone is clueless, incompetent, or bone idle. Or an overpaid shyster.
 
Mexboroseasider said:
I’m sure ideas would have been floated in January for next season. But would they have known for certain in January who would, and who wouldn’t, be available in June?

I agree you can plan in advance based on certain assumptions. But if those assumptions don’t come to fruition then the plan will go a bit awry.

Seems to me you can only plan with any certainty when you know the true picture. And even then the targets will have their own plans which may not dovetail with ours. It is a negotiation after all.

So it’s a bit more complicated than saying “We want him. Now get him. To start on Monday”.

Which is what some people seem to think is how it works. And when it doesn’t happen it’s because someone is clueless, incompetent, or bone idle. Or an overpaid shyster.
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McCarthy was a short term appointment and a stop gap surely it would have been prudent to plan for getting a new permanent manager in for when the season finished
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
McCarthy was a short term appointment and a stop gap surely it would have been prudent to plan for getting a new permanent manager in for when the season finished
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Yes I know. And maybe there is someone lined up?

But then Dobbie stepped into the breach and persuaded quite a few fans (who’d previously been dubious) that he might actually be the answer.

Which shows how plans made in January can come unstuck in May.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Surely the board have been planning for this since January

That's 5 months

And if they haven't been planning for relegation and needing a new manager then they are more clueless than I thought
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You’d like to think so mate.

But we’ve had a £300,000+ a year CEO telling us they had no plan for Critchley leaving, telling us they missed out on Rob Edwards in the summer even though the dates don’t match & even more incredibly telling us they didn’t realise appointing Appleton wouldn’t go down well with fans?! And he hates being called “Bullshit”. Here’s an idea, stop chatting it 👍🏼

We then brought in Badlan who thought our Club legend shared his name with a shopping centre and named the starting 11 in the Taps. Then there’s Mick McCarthy.

Add all that to the Critchley appointment after 4 or 5 knock-backs…

So you do have to wonder & I don’t have any faith at this moment in time.
 
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