Pilley Watch

In a panic he fled overseas.

When I did jury service I was informed that if I had any holidays booked they'd have to be cancelled unless under extreme circumstances.
What did he tell them?
I'm being intimidated and/or bribed so I'm off!!!
 
Wizzerboy said:
In a panic he fled overseas.

When I did jury service I was informed that if I had any holidays booked they'd have to be cancelled unless under extreme circumstances.
What did he tell them?
I'm being intimidated and/or bribed so I'm off!!!
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Been asked three times to do jury service never checked on any excuses I've given to get out of it.
Idol threats.😃
 
2nd week of my jury duty after nothing 1st week approaching the court I notice armed police all round the court building. Helicopter above. Go to the lift inside Preston and up to the waiting area. Announce 50 names from the jury pool to proceed to a court room. They normally select 18 and ballot 6 out. 50 in the court and the judge reminds us of our responsibilities. 3 men charged with drug importation,gun running. 40 or 50 million in drugs and cash. He then gave us all a list of about 6 or 7 names asking if we knew any of them? I thought F this. Filled in the form saying I was familiar with one of the names and wasn’t selected. All 3 guilty after about 6 week and given sentences of 20 yrs plus.
The reason I decided F this for a lark was because the lift up to the jury room was there for all to see from the court’s entrance and the trial I eventually got I saw on several occasions people from the public gallery in lunch breaks in Preston town centre.
 
poolseasider said:
Been asked three times to do jury service never checked on any excuses I've given to get out of it.
Idol threats.😃
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Depends how long ago you were approached to do service.
Possibly easier to give excuses nowadays.
Personally I accepted my responsibility to the judicial system in this country, no matter how flawed it is.
 
BFC87 said:
2nd week of my jury duty after nothing 1st week approaching the court I notice armed police all round the court building. Helicopter above. Go to the lift inside Preston and up to the waiting area. Announce 50 names from the jury pool to proceed to a court room. They normally select 18 and ballot 6 out. 50 in the court and the judge reminds us of our responsibilities. 3 men charged with drug importation,gun running. 40 or 50 million in drugs and cash. He then gave us all a list of about 6 or 7 names asking if we knew any of them? I thought F this. Filled in the form saying I was familiar with one of the names and wasn’t selected. All 3 guilty after about 6 week and given sentences of 20 yrs plus.
The reason I decided F this for a lark was because the lift up to the jury room was there for all to see from the court’s entrance and the trial I eventually got I saw on several occasions people from the public gallery in lunch breaks in Preston town centre.
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You didn't have to go into the centre for your dinner though.
Decent cafe/canteen within the building.
 
Wizzerboy said:
Depends how long ago you were approached to do service.
Possibly easier to give excuses nowadays.
Personally I accepted my responsibility to the judicial system in this country, no matter how flawed it is.
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If I was retired or on a salary I'd have no problem doing jury service but being self-employed no chance for £60 a day and about £6 food allowance they give you.
 
This story apparently started in the Daily Mail so let's not take it too seriously. No serious media sources running it yet.

Plenty of evidence of his guilt was presented in court.
 
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I have nothing against Fleetwood and certainly put the sustaining of a community asset in the Fylde well above football rivalries, but I was surprised by the long sentence, so I went and read lots of the details of the case and things like the judges summary. It's extremely hard to see how he wasn't guilty or why bribery would be needed. There was a mountain of evidence and the defendants stories were flimsy and generally seemed to be blaming each other rather than denying the fraud. That was my interpretation anyway.
 
hills98 said:
I have nothing against Fleetwood and certainly put the sustaining of a community asset in the Fylde well above football rivalries, but I was surprised by the long sentence, so I went and read lots of the details of the case and things like the judges summary. It's extremely hard to see how he wasn't guilty or why bribery would be needed. There was a mountain of evidence and the defendants stories were flimsy and generally seemed to be blaming each other rather than denying the fraud. That was my interpretation anyway.
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Exactly. It's just yet more clickbait bollocks in the Daily Mail.
 
Totally agree, the only defense all 3 had in that case was, the others did it....

They think this put's a level of 'doubt' within the trial and get's a retrial for Andy.
I can just see his barrister saying..."Obviously it was OFGEM who were so worried that he may get away it, they spent all that money to bribe members of the public. So we want a re-trial"

It's not like the juror wouldn't immediately tell the court and get discharged.
And as said...why go to the Daily Mail and not the Police during the hearing..... 🤔
They may question the other 11 juror's but a request for a re-trial must be on it's way to the CP as we speak..

What's a re-trial going to cost....Another £500k?
If this gets his sentence reduced, as he will no doubt take full blame and act sorry, knowing that the Judge will then be lenient.
£500k to get 4 or 5 years off your sentence, knowing you will be out in 2 years time
Will also get him into a Cat C prison, so he can stop being B wing's beeatch every Wednesday......
 
Wonder what fact checking the mail did as this story seems to be full of holes that any journalist could have asked about.
 
Probably meant to say he was offered £20,000 to find pilley not guilty lol
Found guilty on all the evidence provided by the authorities trading standards etc and witnesses that were ripped off by him.
 
What proof is there that this guy is telling the truth.
Are these so called guys going to come out and admit attempting to bribe him!
Anyone can make up a story. Surely it must have been Forrest Gump.

If any of the jurors come out and say they were approached in a similar manner then it is a different matter.
 
BFC87 said:
2nd week of my jury duty after nothing 1st week approaching the court I notice armed police all round the court building. Helicopter above. Go to the lift inside Preston and up to the waiting area. Announce 50 names from the jury pool to proceed to a court room. They normally select 18 and ballot 6 out. 50 in the court and the judge reminds us of our responsibilities. 3 men charged with drug importation,gun running. 40 or 50 million in drugs and cash. He then gave us all a list of about 6 or 7 names asking if we knew any of them? I thought F this. Filled in the form saying I was familiar with one of the names and wasn’t selected. All 3 guilty after about 6 week and given sentences of 20 yrs plus.
The reason I decided F this for a lark was because the lift up to the jury room was there for all to see from the court’s entrance and the trial I eventually got I saw on several occasions people from the public gallery in lunch breaks in Preston town centre.
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I was surprised by the lack of a separate entrance for jurors when I did my jury service. Even worse, I was on the same train home as the defendant every day in my case!
 
Police are investigating, could be as retrial. It’s all a bit strange, why would anyone or group want to pay that amount to one juror, to get him convicted.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
I’ve done it twice over the years and I got paid expenses only as I still got paid from my employer.

If your self employed you can claim for lost earnings.
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I think from recollection when i did it i think its a maximum loss of earnings of £80 odd quid per day. Might have changed a bit now.
 
AngelBFC said:
I think from recollection when i did it i think its a maximum loss of earnings of £80 odd quid per day. Might have changed a bit now.
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Probably about right that as I remember losing a good few hundred quid both times. 😫

Was on nights back then on both occasions working 7 nights a week so cost me loads of dosh. 😭
 
There was a trial on for travellers when I was there last year. Glad I didn’t get that one as they were turning up in numbers every day of the trial.
I nearly got selected for a trial involving 4 coppers. Also glad I didn’t get that one. 😁 👮‍♀️👮‍♀️👮‍♀️👮‍♀️
 
What I don’t get is why you would “Flea Abroad” because someone has offered you £20K to find someone guilty?

It makes no logical sense whatsoever.

The offence was one of fraud, so it’s not like it’s some kind of gang land / underworld criminal.

The Juror was offered money (not threatened).

And why would anyone threaten or risk being caught for trying to induce a guilty verdict in any case? Surely if you were that way inclined, you’d have gone after Pilley himself ?

Sounds like a load of bollocks to me…
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Probably about right that as I remember losing a good few hundred quid both times. 😫

Was on nights back then on both occasions working 7 nights a week so cost me loads of dosh. 😭
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I dont think the process of claiming it back is that straightforward either if you are self employed.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
What I don’t get is why you would “Flea Abroad” because someone has offered you £20K to find someone guilty?

It makes no logical sense whatsoever.

The offence was one of fraud, so it’s not like it’s some kind of gang land / underworld criminal.

The Juror was offered money (not threatened).

And why would anyone threaten or risk being caught for trying to induce a guilty verdict in any case? Surely if you were that way inclined, you’d have gone after Pilley himself ?

Sounds like a load of bollocks to me…
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The last person to successfully "Flea Abroad" was Midge Ure.

Sounds like bollocks to me as well, tbh.
 
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