Traitors - Series 2

They need to stop recruiting traitors, it makes finding them completely redundant which is a massive flaw in the show, the faithful are pissing against the wind.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
They also need to explain if a potential recruit declines can they tell the group?

If not then the whole accept or decline is a waste of time.
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Jeez, looks like you might be right
"Will they choose to murder or seduce"

That would be 6 traitors so far, not giving the faithful much chance this year are they?

Edit, looks like they're taking the murder option
 
Dave62 said:
Jeez, looks like you might be right
"Will they choose to murder or seduce"

That would be 6 traitors so far, not giving the faithful much chance this year are they?

Edit, looks like they're taking the murder option
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for me, it's about the end of the game where the final Traitor gets exposed. As it stands I'd still back the Faithful, at least two of them, to win.
 
Being discussed on the after show about Harry being too specific with detail when sticking the knife into Paul. Some-one will pick up on it.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
They also need to explain if a potential recruit declines can they tell the group?

If not then the whole accept or decline is a waste of time.
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They can tell the group, it happened last year I think but they chose not to. The danger is you'll get murdered when you tell everyone
 
mropinion said:
They can tell the group, it happened last year I think but they chose not to. The danger is you'll get murdered when you tell everyone
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Maybe, I think it's a better tactic than not telling though, probably fucked either way, not a fan of this really, it feels contrived.
 
20togo said:
it did but I think the penny will click with someone, maybe Zach.
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yep, it's Jaz that's on to him. Had to happen, See how it pans out, He might survive tonight but he's gonna come under suspicion a lot more now. Maybe he got rid of the wrong one last night. Should have been Jaz or Zach.

My prediction is if they do soon clock Harry and get rid of him before he throws Andrew under the bus and another Traitor is not chosen then Andrew who is so grey could go all the way without detection,
 
20togo said:
yep, it's Jaz that's on to him. Had to happen, See how it pans out, He might survive tonight but he's gonna come under suspicion a lot more now. Maybe he got rid of the wrong one last night. Should have been Jaz or Zach.

My prediction is if they do soon clock Harry and get rid of him before he throws Andrew under the bus and another Traitor is not chosen then Andrew who is so grey could go all the way without detection,
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Surely there has to be two traitors always, otherwise, if its down to one and that one gets banished, the game is effectively over.
 
Wizaard said:
Surely there has to be two traitors always, otherwise, if its down to one and that one gets banished, the game is effectively over.
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nYes but at some point it has to be down to one. And of course Faithful can continue to get rid of Faithful right down to even the last two.
 
He'd no choice but to join but his secret is bigger than Harrys and that could lead to Harrys downfall.
 
SeasideKurt said:
I fancy Ross and Andrew to bin Harry eventually. What a series by the way.

I wish they would do Monday - Wednesday - Friday for the episodes.
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maybe but Andrew is so weak has he got the courage to get Harry out? Apart from going under the radar he's a pretty lousy traitor with no character. But maybe that's good although he's not playing that role deliberately. Think it's just how he is.
 
Wizaard said:
Surely there has to be two traitors always, otherwise, if its down to one and that one gets banished, the game is effectively over.
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Which means the faithful win, which is supposed to be the point of a fair game.

As it is there's just no point in trying to find a traitor if 2 or 3 are guaranteed to end up in the final anyway. It's too loaded towards the traitors who already have an advantage to begin with as a) they can game it and b) the odds are always in their favour until the numbers are equal.

It massively watchable but as a game it's fundamentally flawed.
 
Another blinder played by Harry and getting the shield. However, the net does seem to be closing in on him from a few of the faithfuls and Ross will definitley look to remove him at the earliest opportunity. Roll on Wednesday
 
looks pretty certain that Jasmine will get banished in the next programme and then, unless Claudia throws in another twist, the traitors will be able to murder another faithful. Once the numbers are evened up between traitors and faithfuls, anything could happen.
 
This is Ska said:
Harry’s to lose from here
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agree mate. For a young lad he has played a meticulous game, so far. He’s got Andrew in his back pocket (and Mollie) but a fly in the ointment could be that Zak or that Jas. Although the murder will take down one of them!
 
Wizaard said:
Think he's getting a bit rocky, to be honest. Could be his downfall.
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yep, he's playing a great game. Think he's got Andrew in his pocket as a traitor and Molly as a faithful trusts him. His logic and thought process is pretty much spot on. I think they'll get rid of Jaz tonight [last night] and then allow Zach and Jasmine to carry on accusing each other and one of them will be voted off at the round table. It's up to Andrew to throw Harry under the bus but if he doesn't Harry could do it and I hope he does.
 
For a 20yr old lad Harry has been tactically brilliant, with hardly any flaws.

Just think he needs Andrew to the end, or he might end up doing a 'Wilf'
 
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The only thing with tonight's murder is if harry is still in they might question when if he was targeted the night before he is still there. Could put Mollie in with a chance to be murdered to totally deflect from him. Although he'd lose a big Allie. Tough decisions
 
So down to the last five for tonights final episode . Harry & Andrew traitors, together with Mollie, Evie and Jazz.

Tonight the game only ends when all those who remain think there are no traitors left amongst them & they all vote to end the game. There is no doubt that at this stage they are all focused on winning.

Harry has played a blinder to this point but I believe he is now in big trouble. No way will Jazz end the game knowing Harry is still left. Andrew also knows what Harry is like and obviously that he is a fellow traitor. So if Andrew is to win, he needs to get rid of Harry and then eberyone needs to be convinced all traitors have been caught.

If Andrew goes for Harry, Harry clearly will have to defend himself and that in turn could expose one or both of them.

So far Mollie is convinced by Harry being a faithful.

Evie could be in the firing line at the first round table banishment.

For me, the only way either traitor to walk away with the prize is to work together and not try and backstab one an other. If Harry and Andrew vote for the same person and drag Mollie along with them, then that will be 3 votes against either Evie of Jazz. Then it would be 2 traitors vs 2 faithful remaining and again they could vote together and remove one of the others.

The only problem in my theory I can’t work out as to how it will play out, is that they know there is at least one more traitor to find and that won’t be the case by keep removing faithfuls.

Hmmmmm…..roll on 9pm.
 
Wizaard said:
Not banishment, only murder.
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I've watched the Aus version and it blocking you from banishment and murder makes it so so much better. Means there's real meaning behind getting it if you're under suspicion which gives enough time for it to go away.
 
seasidelytham said:
So down to the last five for tonights final episode . Harry & Andrew traitors, together with Mollie, Evie and Jazz.

Tonight the game only ends when all those who remain think there are no traitors left amongst them & they all vote to end the game. There is no doubt that at this stage they are all focused on winning.

Harry has played a blinder to this point but I believe he is now in big trouble. No way will Jazz end the game knowing Harry is still left. Andrew also knows what Harry is like and obviously that he is a fellow traitor. So if Andrew is to win, he needs to get rid of Harry and then eberyone needs to be convinced all traitors have been caught.

If Andrew goes for Harry, Harry clearly will have to defend himself and that in turn could expose one or both of them.

So far Mollie is convinced by Harry being a faithful.

Evie could be in the firing line at the first round table banishment.

For me, the only way either traitor to walk away with the prize is to work together and not try and backstab one an other. If Harry and Andrew vote for the same person and drag Mollie along with them, then that will be 3 votes against either Evie of Jazz. Then it would be 2 traitors vs 2 faithful remaining and again they could vote together and remove one of the others.

The only problem in my theory I can’t work out as to how it will play out, is that they know there is at least one more traitor to find and that won’t be the case by keep removing faithfuls.

Hmmmmm…..roll on 9pm.
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Evie will go early, then it depends on how convincing Jaz is in his evidence of Harry being a Traitor. If he really pushes it, then the remaining three could banish him, leaving the two Traitors splitting the money and Mollie looking like a mug.
 
seasidelytham said:
So down to the last five for tonights final episode . Harry & Andrew traitors, together with Mollie, Evie and Jazz.

Tonight the game only ends when all those who remain think there are no traitors left amongst them & they all vote to end the game. There is no doubt that at this stage they are all focused on winning.

Harry has played a blinder to this point but I believe he is now in big trouble. No way will Jazz end the game knowing Harry is still left. Andrew also knows what Harry is like and obviously that he is a fellow traitor. So if Andrew is to win, he needs to get rid of Harry and then eberyone needs to be convinced all traitors have been caught.

If Andrew goes for Harry, Harry clearly will have to defend himself and that in turn could expose one or both of them.

So far Mollie is convinced by Harry being a faithful.

Evie could be in the firing line at the first round table banishment.

For me, the only way either traitor to walk away with the prize is to work together and not try and backstab one an other. If Harry and Andrew vote for the same person and drag Mollie along with them, then that will be 3 votes against either Evie of Jazz. Then it would be 2 traitors vs 2 faithful remaining and again they could vote together and remove one of the others.

The only problem in my theory I can’t work out as to how it will play out, is that they know there is at least one more traitor to find and that won’t be the case by keep removing faithfuls.

Hmmmmm…..roll on 9pm.
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yep, great summary. Agree with all that. I really want Harry to win now as he has layed a blinder througout but in some sort of way I sense the purpose of the game in it's creation is for Faithful to come through, ie good triumphing over evil. Like i said i agree with all your summary and now it could be a case of does Harry want all the money for himself so is he prepared to throw Andrew uus or is he prepared to share. Andrew has to try and suss that asap to decide his strategy for today. And as you say Jaz has now gone quiet compared to his outspokenness previously so he could and possibly will be the fly in the ointment for Harry during the day and when it comes to the round table. If he goes for Harrys jugular then Andrew could steam in to him as well.

So to sum up, I haven't a clue how it will play out.
 
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