Barmpots the lot of them just like the stop oil lot who drive cars fly away on holidays and have gas central heating at home.
Agreed, but BAe have no issues supplying arms to murderous regimes either. A bit different from driving a car.Barmpots the lot of them just like the stop oil lot who drive cars fly away on holidays and have gas central heating at home.
World wide 70,000 people are employed by BAE Systems over 10,000 here in the northwest let’s just cancel all the orders and just sack everyone eh?Agreed, but BAe have no issues supplying arms to murderous regimes either. A bit different from driving a car.
Exactly. The people who have a problem with BAE live in Neverland. If we don't sell it, then someone else will.World wide 70,000 people are employed by BAE Systems over 10,000 here in the northwest let’s just cancel all the orders and just sack everyone eh?
Bit extreme mate, try striking a bit more of a balance.World wide 70,000 people are employed by BAE Systems over 10,000 here in the northwest let’s just cancel all the orders and just sack everyone eh?
I don't think it is to be honest.Bit extreme mate, try striking a bit more of a balance.
Funny how they don’t seem to have anywhere to be during the working day?
By that logic, let's transfer production to chemical weapons. Someone else will sell them if we don't.Exactly. The people who have a problem with BAE live in Neverland. If we don't sell it, then someone else will.
Would you draw the line at Norrth Korea, or China? BAE have made a lot out of Saudi, their assault on the Yemen has made the Houthi attacks worse.I don't think it is to be honest.
As already said above these aircraft/weapons were delivered well before the 07/10/23 atrocities and If BAE Systems didn’t sell the arms to these countries someone else will usually the French.
These protesters always cease to amaze me how they never take in the facts before protesting same with the stop oil loonies .
As I said earlier a bunch of barmpots and that’s being nice to them.
Chemical weapons are banned by the Geneva Convention. Fighter planes are not. Nice try thoughBy that logic, let's transfer production to chemical weapons. Someone else will sell them if we don't.
Depends on what those fighters are droppingChemical weapons are banned by the Geneva Convention. Fighter planes are not. Nice try though
It’s not just about protesting though is it? some of these people are violent thugs.Would you draw the line at Norrth Korea, or China? BAE have made a lot out of Saudi, their assault on the Yemen has made the Houthi attacks worse.
Philosophically, is the argument that if we don't sell, someone else will, justification to support regimes actions of which we do not approve? And if you do feel it is not, does anyone else have the right to stop you protesting? Is this group of white middle class locals the MOB Rishi wants to stop?
No they haven’t.Have American or British F-35 jets been used against the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip? And how does the reporter know these are Lancashire locals did she take a roll call?
I’ve never said I’m against protesting I’m not so long as it’s peaceful what I did say was they are barmpots just like the stop oil lot.So because someone once did something for which they were found not guilty, you want to stop anyone protesting? Why are people and the Government so thin skinned and insecure?
Any comment on the other bit of my post about what is and isn't acceptable. Genuinely interested becase I appreciate it is a very complex issue, and always like to hear different views of the world
She was blocking the road with a lorry trying to get past or would you prefer her to be crushed?That beardy copper pulling a woman out of her wheelchair - he's right hard isn't he? I bet he loves himself to bits.
Retired maybe ?Funny how they don’t seem to have anywhere to be during the working day?
He didn’t actually pull her out of her chair..He was moving her to allow access for the lorry and her attempted resistance caused her to fall over.That beardy copper pulling a woman out of her wheelchair - he's right hard isn't he? I bet he loves himself to bits.
He didn’t actually pull her out of her chair..He was moving her to allow access for the lorry and her attempted resistance caused her to fall over.
What do you want him to do? Leave her in the middle of the road?
If she ((or the gob shite who was talking in the background) didn’t like being moved on by the police then why the fcuk did they go there in the first place.
If the police let these morons demonstrate and take no action, it’s wrong and if they try to shift them then that is also wrong.
All of them?Retired maybe ?
Just watched the vid so that will be a no .All of them?
Wheeled away would have been my choice. Or, is a copper incapable of stopping a wagon?She was blocking the road with a lorry trying to get past or would you prefer her to be crushed?
He could have stopped the waggon then moved the woman. Unless the police aren't capable of that.He didn’t actually pull her out of her chair..He was moving her to allow access for the lorry and her attempted resistance caused her to fall over.
What do you want him to do? Leave her in the middle of the road?
If she ((or the gob shite who was talking in the background) didn’t like being moved on by the police then why the fcuk did they go there in the first place.
If the police let these morons demonstrate and take no action, it’s wrong and if they try to shift them then that is also wrong.
..........and still have the same outcome ‘66.He could have stopped the waggon then moved the woman. Unless the police aren't capable of that.
She was on the road and got wheeled away then tried to get back on heading towards the truck watch the video.Wheeled away would have been my choice. Or, is a copper incapable of stopping a wagon?
Why…by the way what do the Iranians ( government if you can call it that) spend their money on…?definitely not helping the cause of women or the people of GazzaBit extreme mate, try striking a bit more of a balance.
Retired, long lunch, flexi, WFH for the NHS...?Funny how they don’t seem to have anywhere to be during the working day?
Weapons so they can provide them to Hamas to shoot at Israel?Why…by the way what do the Iranians ( government if you can call it that) spend their money on…
Stop being an argumentative sod like you usually are.He could have stopped the waggon then moved the woman. Unless the police aren't capable of that.
Jaffa, let's calm down and look at what works. The protesters would have been worked up. The Police - being professional - could have taken the heat out of the situation and done the calm thing. No-one is defending riotous behaviour. The protest having been made, the Police could have dealt with it better. It wasn't a riot. It was a small event.Stop being an argumentative sod like you usually are.
I could name a few countries where the waggon would have just run her over.
She was committing a road traffic offence by blocking the road wheel chair or no wheel chair.
I’m surprising someone is arguing the case but then again it is AVFTT.
Remember seeing it at the Windemere airshow. We were up on Biskey Howe, saw it come down across Kirkstone, came quietly down the lake low, then turned over Bowness climbing heading west and lit up the engines. Absolutely f in awesomeAs a loony leftie and while supporting the cause of the demonstration I believe its my duty to point out that jets are ** ace and still make me feel like a ten year old visiting my Dad for lunch at Warton.
Shame there's no Vulcans flying anymore, a low level pass spooling up those Olympus would have sorted them out.
Far too many could have’s there for me.Jaffa, let's calm down and look at what works. The protesters would have been worked up. The Police - being professional - could have taken the heat out of the situation and done the calm thing. No-one is defending riotous behaviour. The protest having been made, the Police could have dealt with it better. It wasn't a riot. It was a small event.
As I've nothing to add to what's already been posted, I'll deviate & comment on the jets. Whilst I hate the human race in many ways for still murdering each other in the name of something. Got to say detaching myself from the primary purpose of fighter & bomber jets the sheer sense of power when these birds opened up on a low level flypast (better overhead, until is was banned) is literally awesome & makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up. In the days before flying low over crowds was banned, quite often the first you knew of their approach was the roar above you after they had almost sneaked up on you & the ear shattering noise. Fantastic!As a loony leftie and while supporting the cause of the demonstration I believe its my duty to point out that jets are ** ace and still make me feel like a ten year old visiting my Dad for lunch at Warton.
Shame there's no Vulcans flying anymore, a low level pass spooling up those Olympus would have sorted them out.
I assume you have dealt with protests then.Jaffa, let's calm down and look at what works. The protesters would have been worked up. The Police - being professional - could have taken the heat out of the situation and done the calm thing. No-one is defending riotous behaviour. The protest having been made, the Police could have dealt with it better. It wasn't a riot. It was a small event.
Whose talking about the Iranians, not me? Ever heard that two wrongs don't make a right!Why…by the way what do the Iranians ( government if you can call it that) spend their money on…?definitely not helping the cause of women or the people of Gazza
When BAE open day for families was at Warton they used to hand out earplugs, bloody loved those days, although you could just sit at the side of Bank Lane for impromptu displays.As I've nothing to add to what's already been posted, I'll deviate & comment on the jets. Whilst I hate the human race in many ways for still murdering each other in the name of something. Got to say detaching myself from the primary purpose of fighter & bomber jets the sheer sense of power when these birds opened up on a low level flypast (better overhead, until is was banned) is literally awesome & makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up. In the days before flying low over crowds was banned, quite often the first you knew of their approach was the roar above you after they had almost sneaked up on you & the ear shattering noise. Fantastic!
Depends on what those fighters are dropping
And that’s just direct employees and when you add on all those in the supply chain and the local businesses who are totally dependent on BAES the numbers are huge. So yeh lets shut down all the shipyards, RAF bases, manufacturing facilities etc etc and watch whole communities go under, I'm sure all the nutjob despots around the world would be happy with that!World wide 70,000 people are employed by BAE Systems over 10,000 here in the northwest let’s just cancel all the orders and just sack everyone eh?
Been in a few. In any case, a lot of us have been in heavily policed situations as football fans. We can all tell when these events are being policed badly or well.I assume you have dealt with protests then.
You'd support the genocide of the nation who's group attacked us? People who had nothing to do with it, starve all the kids if they survive the massacres?1200 people killed on October 7th.
If the same thing happened in an attack on the UK i'd fully support us doing exactly the same as Israel and much more.
I have no sympathy for these people's POV, they are plain wrong.