They're a Facebook page that started last year. I remember people being confused from the last meeting when they were there, surprised they've been allowed to be classed as a "supporters group" as they don't have members/memberships, they're simply just a page on Facebook that you can "like"What or who is Tangerine Seasiders please? That one has passed me by over the last five years...
Scathing of the comments on this board.
But in fairness there were some valid questions and opinions raised on here regarding the playing side of things over the last few months.
The fact the club were a bit touchy about that tells me there was something in it.
Agree that it’s brilliant that the club reaches out to the fans int his way. What a club we have now.
I do think as a fan base we should think about amalgamation of all the fans groups into one big one. Would hold the club to account in a better way for me personally and hold more weight behind their points.
My point being that despite the Trust there’s still a large range of fans that don’t want to be represented by this organisation.We could have elections and a constitution and call it a Supporters Trust.
I understand the need of supporters groups for fans that live elsewhere (BASIL, Yorkshire Seasiders), but I agree - 9 supporters groups for a club our size is bordering ridiculous (or 8, as Tangerine Seasiders aren't a supporters group).Agree that it’s brilliant that the club reaches out to the fans int his way. What a club we have now.
I do think as a fan base we should think about amalgamation of all the fans groups into one big one. Would hold the club to account in a better way for me personally and hold more weight behind their points.
My point being that despite the Trust there’s still a large range of fans that don’t want to be represented by this organisation.
I get it’s there personal choice but if we were all under one banner it would help when we went to the club instead of a plethora of organisations.
Perhaps an umbrella group with officials from all groups, but still keeping the individual groups which people want to be associated with.My point being that despite the Trust there’s still a large range of fans that don’t want to be represented by this organisation.
I get it’s there personal choice but if we were all under one banner it would help when we went to the club instead of a plethora of organisations.
Sorry there’s no tone over a message board.I was being facetious, obviously. It will never happen, unfortunately.
Hi bfcpete. The idea of webcasting has been discussed. I'm not sure everyone feels comfortable (yet or in future) with the idea, but we'll see.SLO - thanks for posting these minutes so promptly, Could you also please also explore the option of webcasting future meetings to a wider audience. Technology is readily available and has been used extensively during Covid
That’s what I had in mind as a starting point.Perhaps an umbrella group with officials from all groups, but still keeping the individual groups which people want to be associated with.
The umbrella group could act for all fans on common ground
I quite like it that they are a bit touchy about what comes from this site it shows they read the forum's and value our opinions
However i don't think there are been anything posted thats crossed any line, just people raising valid concerns about the club
Bit defensive in parts but all good stuff really and they clearly listen
And people moan about having to stump up a tenner. They have a choice. He doesn't.Interesting point made about NC using player data which is used all the time now in top level sport - as opposed to Simon Grayson who didn’t use it!
Looks like we are on the right path to be successful in the near future.
And shocked to hear its going to cost SS £4-6 million to keep the club afloat this season
Hi bfcpete. The idea of webcasting has been discussed. I'm not sure everyone feels comfortable (yet or in future) with the idea, but we'll see.
That sounds like a broader Fans' Forum event to me. We did hold a couple of those last season but Covid has cut across plans for this year. I'll put it to the club though.would it be possible for one of these a year to have more access and interactivity? I agree that the more limited structured dialogue is best for this kind of interaction, but perhaps opening it up to the wider fanbase once a season would allow for more ideas to come out? And if not a few idiots can maybe let off steam
Expected goal stats don't win you actual league points.
Coaches who actually know what they're doing and who's ideas are worth real league points and translate on the pitch via the players are more effective. So it's good that they recognised they had to react fairly early on into this and started to look around for experienced help to throw into the mix, and sourced someone through an agent they use for players. It seemed far too naive approach to me before that once they'd finished selling covid season tickets based on a notion. But it can be cheaper this way than it ultimately costing several people their jobs, and the club a potential relegation. Whilst sleepwalking and saying everything is fine because look at the XG numbers.
Still nothing on how long Calderwood is actually here for though. What sort of arrangement is it given he'd accepted a role elsewhere with a January start date?
I don’t think people moan about stumping up a tenner per say. I think it’s more about stumping up a tenner for a p**s poor service, although I appreciate its out of the clubs control.And people moan about having to stump up a tenner. They have a choice. He doesn't.
They are moaning though, probably those that stream ffa. I don't know what people expect- the clubs have to repay STH's and to make it £1 wouldn't do that. Also asimple case of supply and demand- we as BFC want to see BFC play and there is only one supply- Don't Like, Don't Stream, Don't Pay.I don’t think people moan about stumping up a tenner per say. I think it’s more about stumping up a tenner for a p**s poor service, although I appreciate its out of the clubs control.
I'm not sure which link you are referring to. Are there any other agents with multiple numbers of players? I'm not aware of any, which makes your point moot, doesn't it?The metrics I use are a failure to gain league points, repeat scenario red cards for a left back being put at centre half and not learning, losing home games 4-1 and then admitting it was a cock up, things like that. And if things are going OK and you're confident it'll click then an experienced coach isn't brought in early on.
Calderwood's agent is Lubala and Williams agent. It says on the link how BM used his contacts.
Got a lot out of reading that. For probably the first time with one of these things. Appreciate those who asked the questions.
I don't know the answer to this.Perhaps an umbrella group with officials from all groups, but still keeping the individual groups which people want to be associated with.
The umbrella group could act for all fans on common ground
Noticed on a few of your posts recently that you seem really down on the club mate? With everything a new owner is trying to achieve with all the restrictions placed on him is there any reason why?Expected goal stats don't win you actual league points.
Coaches who actually know what they're doing and who's ideas are worth real league points and translate on the pitch via the players are more effective. So it's good that they recognised they had to react fairly early on into this and started to look around for experienced help to throw into the mix, and sourced someone through an agent they use for players. It seemed far too naive approach to me before that once they'd finished selling covid season tickets based on a notion. But it can be cheaper this way than it ultimately costing several people their jobs, and the club a potential relegation. Whilst sleepwalking and saying everything is fine because look at the XG numbers.
Still nothing on how long Calderwood is actually here for though. What sort of arrangement is it given he'd accepted a role elsewhere with a January start date?
Never said there was anything wrong with it. It's how clubs have to operate, there's just more knowledge out there now about that side of the game. Club recognise the need for an extra coach, they know some agents, they know the club, contact is made, and Calderwood agrees to come here to have some input in proceedings, rather than starts the other job that he'd accepted. We don't know how long that's for as they haven't said but I'm sure we'll find out.I'm not sure which link you are referring to. Are there any other agents with multiple numbers of players? I'm not aware of any, which makes your point moot, doesn't it?
Re the metrics you choose to look at - I'll give you Husband, but his discipline problems were evident almost from the moment he arrived - way, way before Critchley did. And it is odd that you choose to focus on one 4-1 defeat and ignore much more impressive recent form. If I was in any way cynical, I might think you have decided on the answer before you designed the question .....
Pool fcExpected goal stats don't win you actual league points.
Coaches who actually know what they're doing and who's ideas are worth real league points and translate on the pitch via the players are more effective. So it's good that they recognised they had to react fairly early on into this and started to look around for experienced help to throw into the mix, and sourced someone through an agent they use for players. It seemed far too naive approach to me before that once they'd finished selling covid season tickets based on a notion. But it can be cheaper this way than it ultimately costing several people their jobs, and the club a potential relegation. Whilst sleepwalking and saying everything is fine because look at the XG numbers.
Still nothing on how long Calderwood is actually here for though. What sort of arrangement is it given he'd accepted a role elsewhere with a January start date?
If it looks naive on the football pitch (the only bit I can get to see at the moment) and I can see it's not working -and it hasn't been- then I'm not going to pretend to be happy about it, it doesn't matter who is in charge of it. Again, really tough run to come now but just by starting to keep it simple instead of over complicating it looks in a better place doesn't it.Noticed on a few of your posts recently that you seem really down on the club mate? With everything a new owner is trying to achieve with all the restrictions placed on him is there any reason why?
Well said wizAnd people moan about having to stump up a tenner. They have a choice. He doesn't.
No, but they do expect to see a full game without, buffering, picture dropping etc. Would you be happy if you bought a ticket to watch the game and four 6’6” blokes stood in front of you and refused to sit down, no I thought not.They are moaning though, probably those that stream ffa. I don't know what people expect- the clubs have to repay STH's and to make it £1 wouldn't do that. Also asimple case of supply and demand- we as BFC want to see BFC play and there is only one supply- Don't Like, Don't Stream, Don't Pay.
For a full tenner do people expect VAR as well?
The service was not designed for the purpose it's being used for atm, but it's all we have so live with it.I don’t think people moan about stumping up a tenner per say. I think it’s more about stumping up a tenner for a p**s poor service, although I appreciate its out of the clubs control.
I pay for the games, so don’t include me in the dodgers. I don’t suffer from any of the problems in my post, I was merely quoting the problems some people have. If you read my initial post properly you would have seen I said it’s out of the control of the club. You probably didn’t read it properly because as usual you are to busy looking for someone to have a go at. Just grow up read posts as they are written and stop looking for an argument because you won’t get one here. Ignore activated.The service was not designed for the purpose it's being used for atm, but it's all we have so live with it.
Had iFollow not already been in place we would have only had the radio and highlights until something was sorted, so at least the EFL got something right eventually.
For better quality to be achieved would involve higher costs and ultimately less revenue to the club unless you upped the price.
Then you lose low-income subscribers to illegal streams and you lose again.
It's not forever so just suck it up and support the wonderful new owner we have who is having to dig far deeper than expected.