TangerineBayern
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Cancelled at last. Not much time for him to appeal either!
Strange that it’s taken so long for them to realise that it wasn’t a valid exemption.Cancelled on the grounds that having Covid for an unvaccinated person wasn't a valid reason for a medical exemption. That was never addressed in the earlier court case and I was always puzzled when the medical panels of Tennis Australia and the State of Victoria gave that exemption on these grounds, when there wasn't such an exemption in the Federal Government's Border regulations.
Rumours that he will get a special court sitting on Sunday to consider another appeal.
He should do the sport that he’s now damaged a favour and leave the country, but l doubt he will.Cancelled on the grounds that having Covid for an unvaccinated person wasn't a valid reason for a medical exemption. That was never addressed in the earlier court case and I was always puzzled when the medical panels of Tennis Australia and the State of Victoria gave that exemption on these grounds, when there wasn't such an exemption in the Federal Government's Border regulations.
Rumours that he will get a special court sitting on Sunday to consider another appeal.
But they did want him in, he’s the World No.1 tennis player and holder of the Australian Open but he falsified entry paperwork hence why his visa has been cancelled and quite rightly so.Cowardly way of doing it all really. Could have just refused him a visa from the outset if they didn't want him in.
Come off it, they've gone through his application with a fine tooth comb. If you went into the country "on business", you'd receive less scrutiny. Other tennis players were allowed in with the same exemption. They created a problem that wasn't there. There is/was no risk to public health by letting him in, it was purely political.But they did want him in, he’s the World No.1 tennis player and holder of the Australian Open but he falsified entry paperwork hence why his visa has been cancelled and quite rightly so.
Why is it worrying - it's their borders and their country?Irrespective of this particular case, it does seem worrying that having some degree of natural immunity via infection is not recognised. Other countries seem quite happy to accept it.
Wasn’t that one of the plus points of Brexit for usWhy is it worrying - it's their borders and their country?
They have the right to refuse any non Australian they like
Not for me - I quite liked freedom of movement, freedom to work and freedom to live around the EU.Wasn’t that one of the plus points of Brexit for us
Exactly. That's how it was sold. Control of borders was the big selling point.Wasn’t that one of the plus points of Brexit for us
So who put the cross in the wrong box confirming he had not visited any other country within 14 days of his arrival in Australia, oh yeh his agent who he threw under the bus! This is not about being exempted on medical grounds its about him falsifying paperwork in accordance with Australias strict immigration laws.Come off it, they've gone through his application with a fine tooth comb. If you went into the country "on business", you'd receive less scrutiny. Other tennis players were allowed in with the same exemption. They created a problem that wasn't there. There is/was no risk to public health by letting him in, it was purely political.
It's ethically worrying.Why is it worrying - it's their borders and their country?
They have the right to refuse any non Australian they like
Not really, get your visa wrong in the US and you don't make it out of the airport, it's been that way for years.It's ethically worrying.
Why?It's ethically worrying.
Quite. But then, Tennis Australia and Victoria State hwve done everything they can to get him inAfter seeing loads of episodes of 'Nothing to Declare' - I can't believe he is still in the country!
Borders are federal though (or at least they used to be) and not regional.Quite. But then, Tennis Australia and Victoria State hwve done everything they can to get him in
If he wasn't Novak and they weren't a biomedical police state, he'd have waltzed into the country. You must surely agree with that?So who put the cross in the wrong box confirming he had not visited any other country within 14 days of his arrival in Australia, oh yeh his agent who he through under the bus! This is not about being exempted on medical grounds its about him falsifying paperwork in accordance with Australias strict immigration laws.
He waltzed into Spain apparantly but Australia do have very strict immigration laws with or without coronavirus, anyway it looks like we haven’t heard the end of this! Tennis is my favourite sport after football and Djokovic is an outstanding player who l admire for his ability but unfortunately he has tarnished himself and the game itself by thinking he can waltz into Australia with dodgy paperwork.If he wasn't Novak and they weren't a biomedical police state, he'd have waltzed into the country. You must surely agree with that?
He's probably done it hundreds of times through his career, as have other players I reckon. It's normally a rubber stamp job, a formality. Completely unimportant. I myself have been away in the last two years "on business" or "for educational purposes". No issue at all and nobody died, but if the entire machinery of government decided to go through the paperwork, I'd have been screwed. There will be people being trafficked into Aus as we speak with nothing more than a glance at a passport. It's just a shame that so many people still feel that these rules and unnecessary bureaucracy provide any sort of protection at all. Or is it all just a lot more basic than that - jealousy, bitterness maybe? Annoyance that he's an anti-vaxxer that isn't dead yet? People do hold these views.He waltzed into Spain apparantly but Australia do have very strict immigration laws with or without coronavirus, anyway it looks like we haven’t heard the end of this! Tennis is my favourite sport after football and Djokovic is an outstanding player who l admire for his ability but unfortunately he has tarnished himself and the game itself by thinking he can waltz into Australia with dodgy paperwork.
I have had a green card for 20 years and they still almost turf me out everytime I leave and come back. [puzzled look] "so you visited.. england????.... why would you do that???". I also once got held in detention in Canada during a connecting flight for answering the question "are you planning to stay here in Edmonton illegally?" with "to be honest, i've never even heard of Edmonton". If I attempted to visit Australia I assume i'd be wacked about the face and arms with boomerangs and forced to wear one of those hats with wine-corks hanging from it.Not really, get your visa wrong in the US and you don't make it out of the airport, it's been that way for years.
Interesting. The way things have panned out, you wouldn't think the Aussies were hosting a major international tennis tournament and he was the number one player. The guy should've have been greeted off the plane by Kylie Minogue. Red carpet treatment all the way to his hotel. Instead he was unlawfully detained for five days. Completely mental.Another twist on this. Apparently, Djokovic holds a special 'diplomatic' passport granted by the Serbian government over the 10 years for raising the profile of their tennis. Apparently, this grants him some extra privelages, such as how he is held by the authorities.
It’s more ethically worrying that some jumped up tennis player should falsify documents in order to illegally get into a country and think that it’s ok because it’s him. Doesn’t seem like he’s got too many morals himselfIt's ethically worrying.
I doubt Kylie would want to meet him not being vaccinated and all.Interesting. The way things have panned out, you wouldn't think the Aussies were hosting a major international tennis tournament and he was the number one player. The guy should've have been greeted off the plane by Kylie Minogue. Red carpet treatment all the way to his hotel. Instead he was unlawfully detained for five days. Completely mental.
Cancelled on the grounds that having Covid for an unvaccinated person wasn't a valid reason for a medical exemption.
Surely they would have been better arguing it on the basis that his initial application for a Visa has been invalidated on the basis of misleading information provided.
Other than the failure to mention going to Spain.See my post above.
The point is he did not provide misleading information, the information he gave was correct, the ATAGI, which is the official Australian government body says that infection is grounds for medical exemption, by law he is entitled to a visa and to enter the country, the only way they can stop him is on the tenuous grounds that he might encourage anti-vaxers.
There's a general election in May, this is all about scoring popularity points at ND's expense.
That was the point I was making. The court papers confirm that Djokovic has admitted now that he failed to include details of his trip to Serbia and Spain on the Visa, blaming it on his agent (snake). How can that possibly not be grounds to revoke a Visa, it has been issued on false information
Can you imagine a Syrian refugee arriving in Australia on a student Visa and then admitting that in fact he had come to work, do we think he would get a court hearing on a Sunday?