1966_and_all_that
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Thank you for pointing it out. Now corrected.Wow... Dr. Who is real AND on AVFTT ........give her some credit for persistence
Thank you for pointing it out. Now corrected.Wow... Dr. Who is real AND on AVFTT ........give her some credit for persistence
Independence from England Chunky. It then wants to rejoin the EU.Isnāt Scotland struggling much more than England economically?
I am sure there is more tax payers money per capita funnelled there from the English economy to ensure the Union stays in tact?
Iām not sure even after Brexit that Scotland still wants independence?
Be interesting if she does.it appears to me that this is the only thing that Sturgeon is interested in.
Power Mad.
I bet she loses this one too.
This is the biggest issue for anti SNP voters. They have been in power for ever, and so many indicators continue to decline, highest deaths from drugs and alcohol in Europe, education ( used to be world famous) going down the toilet, rural populations declining, a total fxck up on the ferries ordered to keep transport to the Isles going, I can go on and on. They need to focus on their jobs and responsibilities, and stop blaming whichever government is in power in Westminster for their incompetence.Be interesting if she does.
FPTP helps in Westminster elections, but the Scottish ones are PR but still get into government pretty easily and they use this as a proxy for Independence; if the people reject it again; it leaves them with one thing to do - govern Scotland - which may be a good thing for the people of Scotland.
The public funding that goes from the Treasury to the other home nations is based on what is called the Barnett formula. Back in my day that was around 2% of GDP. The reason that the home nations (well, Scotland principally), struggle more than England is because they are not allowed to borrow on the open market.Isnāt Scotland struggling much more than England economically?
I am sure there is more tax payers money per capita funnelled there from the English economy to ensure the Union stays in tact?
Iām not sure even after Brexit that Scotland still wants independence?
Thanks 66 very informativeThe public funding that goes from the Treasury to the other home nations is based on what is called the Barnett formula. Back in my day that was around 2% of GDP. The reason that the home nations (well, Scotland principally), struggle more than England is because they are not allowed to borrow on the open market.
This is the biggest issue for anti SNP voters. They have been in power for ever, and so many indicators continue to decline, highest deaths from drugs and alcohol in Europe, education ( used to be world famous) going down the toilet, rural populations declining, a total fxck up on the ferries ordered to keep transport to the Isles going, I can go on and on. They need to focus on their jobs and responsibilities, and stop blaming whichever government is in power in Westminster for their incompetence.
If the court says no, then sheās going to go into the election in 2024 with one manifesto policy, independence.
How many years of moaning and whining did we have to put up with before you got your Brexit vote?You won't win Scara. He's obsessed with Brexit. If Blackpool got relegated next season he'd blame it on Brexit.
We've had to endure 6 years of moaning and whining and there doesn't seem to be any end to it either.
I never asked for a Brexit vote. So you're totally wrong there. Get trolling through every single one of my previous posts if you're that sad and you want to try and prove yourself right.How many years of moaning and whining did we have to put up with before you got your Brexit vote?
Does it all have to stop when you get what you want?
Not bothered about you, I was referring to UKIP and those that always blamed Europe for the UKs problems, you are one person with one vote, no big deal just like the rest of us. I'll moan and whine about Brexit for as long as I like, people who wanted Brexit often seem to enjoy it so i wouldn't want to take away one of your pleasures in life.I never asked for a Brexit vote. So you're totally wrong there. Get trolling through every single one of my previous posts if you're that sad and you want to try and prove yourself right.
That sounds persuasive but a truly independent Scotland (and I don't want it), would be able to trade debt on the open market. As things stand, that's not allowed. Hence, Barnett.My 2p, as a precondition, before any request for a referendum can be considered, the first minister must first make a written request that the Barnet formula be ended and that funding for the Scottish executive should instead be based on taxation raised in Scotland, net of central government expenditure in non-devolved areas, and that a minimum of five years be allowed to pass before any referendum can take place.
It would be their approximate fiscal position in the event of independence, if they can't make it work before independence, why do they think they can make it work after?
Still, we've had all those great benefits, a strong economy, stable cost of living, affordable utilities, brilliant social care, not forgetting the levelling up which has been just remarkable.You won't win Scara. He's obsessed with Brexit. If Blackpool got relegated next season he'd blame it on Brexit.
We've had to endure 6 years of moaning and whining and there doesn't seem to be any end to it either.
The lowest form of witStill, we've had all those great benefits, a strong economy, stable cost of living, affordable utilities, brilliant social care, not forgetting the levelling up which has been just remarkable.
Thank god those billions we spent on it weren't needed anywhere else
** true though.The lowest form of wit
In your opinion. Most of your sarcastic points could be aimed at many countries** true though.
So the billions thrown at Brexit wouldn't have helped? Anyway, I thought isolationism was supposed to shield us from global variance to some extent?In your opinion. Most of your sarcastic points could be aimed at many countries
Thereās a bit of a global problem going on at present if you hadn't noticed
Of course it might have helped but then again it might notSo the billions thrown at Brexit wouldn't have helped? Anyway, I thought isolationism was supposed to shield us from global variance to some extent?
But Brexit had nothing to do with the vaccine rollout, we still could have independently controlled ours, this has been explained many, many times.Of course it might have helped but then again it might not
For example we may have wasted billions more on the vaccine roll out if weād stayed in the EU and been part of that cluster fuck
I donāt think any country can be isolated from global variance such is the global world we live in these days
But that wasnāt what happened. EU countries were prevented from going their own way on the vaccines. It was a total cock up. Delays and lies about the effectiveness of certain vaccines. I remember it well even if you dontBut Brexit had nothing to do with the vaccine rollout, we still could have independently controlled ours, this has been explained many, many times.
Heās got stamina old Wiz, youāve got to admire itYou won't win Scara. He's obsessed with Brexit. If Blackpool got relegated next season he'd blame it on Brexit.
We've had to endure 6 years of moaning and whining and there doesn't seem to be any end to it either.
I don't admire pompous know alls Blood, stamina or not.Heās got stamina old Wiz, youāve got to admire it
Her and her party are largely running a racist campaign to get power
ā¦. and yet you constantly stick your head up Scaraās arseI don't admire pompous know alls Blood, stamina or not.
Still obsessed i see, every other other post from you has me in itā¦. and yet you constantly stick your head up Scaraās arse
Sorry Wiz, but nothing to do with Brexit. It is purely driven by that wannabe despot Nicola Sturgeon (aka Kranky)The revisit of the independence vote has been prompted by the Brexit outcome.
As for Northern Ireland, they've become a separate trading area with a border in the Irish Sea and we're about to unilaterally ignore international law. Keep up.
The revisit of the independence vote has been prompted by the Brexit outcome.
As for Northern Ireland, they've become a separate trading area with a border in the Irish Sea and we're about to unilaterally ignore international law. Keep up.
She is like a petulant child who didnāt get her own way on the first referendumSorry Wiz, but nothing to do with Brexit. It is purely driven by that wannabe despot Nicola Sturgeon (aka Kranky)
She is like a petulant child who didnāt get her own way on the first referendum.
If the second vote goes against her (which, if it happens, will go against her), what then? She wants a third vote?
Alternatively, if the unexpected happened and the vote was for independence and people challenged it she would fight tooth and nail to stay independent.
Could they afford to be independent? Would the exporting of Haggis and Whiskey be enough to live on?
Could they afford to join the EU? Would she join NATO just in case Putin fancied taking over the highlands. Imagine that happening, she would soon be running with cap in hand to England for support
It just wonāt happen.
If you have been up to Scotland any time recently itās almost relentless so yes.
Really ?
Iāve spent plenty of time in Scotland recently and I havenāt noticed the āalmost relentless ā¦ largely racist campaignā of which you speakIf you have been up to Scotland any time recently itās almost relentless so yes.
I can speak from personal experience which is probably all I need but I have family in the highlands and any visit to Glasgow or watching the Scottish Parliament for anyone English confirms it. If most of the statements made by Sturgeon substituted any race or minority for the word English she would be prosecuted.Iāve spent plenty of time in Scotland recently and I havenāt noticed the āalmost relentless ā¦ largely racist campaignā of which you speak
I donāt suppose you have anything to back your statement up ?
Heās got stamina old Wiz, youāve got to admire it
It seems Nationalism is ok as long as it suits your narrative.Iāve spent plenty of time in Scotland recently and I havenāt noticed the āalmost relentless ā¦ largely racist campaignā of which you speak
I donāt suppose you have anything to back your statement up ?
If your last sentence is true then why isnāt she being prosecutedI can speak from personal experience which is probably all I need but I have family in the highlands and any visit to Glasgow or watching the Scottish Parliament for anyone English confirms it. If most of the statements made by Sturgeon substituted any race or minority for the word English she would be prosecuted.
Probably because people like you.If your last sentence is true then why isnāt she being prosecuted
Iāve just read the following article. Would it be fair to suggest that it represents your views almost entirely ?
The racism lurking behind Scottish nationalism
Why is the bigotry of many SNP supporters so readily tolerated?unherd.com
Interesting article. Whilst I cannot say whether or not racism in all its forms is rife it certainly sets out with some clarity the undercurrent of anti English rhetoric and the closing down of opposing voices in something I have witnessed more than once.If your last sentence is true then why isnāt she being prosecuted
Iāve just read the following article. Would it be fair to suggest that it represents your views almost entirely ?
The racism lurking behind Scottish nationalism
Why is the bigotry of many SNP supporters so readily tolerated?unherd.com
Question should be... is the article closer to the truth then some will admit?If your last sentence is true then why isnāt she being prosecuted
Iāve just read the following article. Would it be fair to suggest that it represents your views almost entirely ?
The racism lurking behind Scottish nationalism
Why is the bigotry of many SNP supporters so readily tolerated?unherd.com
I live in Scotland, and no its not. Even the SNP folk I know are always polite and friendly.If you have been up to Scotland any time recently itās almost relentless so yes.
When you say āvote Noā are you referring to the 2014 vote ...if so why would Scotland not either stay or reapply to the EU back then? Sorry for being thick, not really up on this just curious.I live in Scotland, and no its not. Even the SNP folk I know are always polite and friendly.
Brexit has caused this retrial, whatever you believe. The only way for Scotland to stay in the EU was to vote NO. We did, and then the UK voted to leave. I dislike the SNP politically, and Sturgeon personally, but there is indeed a justification for revisiting the question, as the goalposts have moved.
Given that the article was written by someone that a fair few on here wouldnāt make welcome in England, perhaps there are lots of questionsQuestion should be... is the article closer to the truth then some will admit?