Meanleywarrior
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Im pleased common sense has finally prevailed. I just hope the police lock up any of the great un washed who try to prevent it.
Let’s hope they do it in your back garden then.Im pleased common sense has finally prevailed. I just hope the police lock up any of the great un washed who try to prevent it.
Let's hope they turn him upside down and use him as a drillbit.Let’s hope they do it in your back garden then.
Nah he will be one of the nuggets that comes up to the surfaceLet's hope they turn him upside down and use him as a drillbit.
That might turn a few headsReporting 25% off bills for locals if it goes ahead
Common sense would be finding alternative ways of producing energy. Not going back to something that causes earth tremors and pollutes the planet.Im pleased common sense has finally prevailed. I just hope the police lock up any of the great un washed who try to prevent it.
That should cover the 30%+ drop in your house valueReporting 25% off bills for locals if it goes ahead
And the increase to your property insurance, if you can get cover for fracking related damage.That should cover the 30%+ drop in your house value
Could they not harness all the hot air and bull shit coming from the House of CommonsCommon sense would be finding alternative ways of producing energy. Not going back to something that causes earth tremors and pollutes the planet.
And would need about 60 security staff 24/7The Cuadrilla site would employ 6 people once up and running, that’s all.
No Russian 'disinformation' was ** necessary, the people of the Fylde could feel the reality of fracking for themselves.Interesting article on Russian disinformation and the campaign against fracking: https://thecritic.co.uk/issues/december-2019/the-plot-against-fracking/
The Russians also lobbied behind the scenes against shale gas, worried about losing their grip on the world’s gas supplies. Unlike most conspiracy theories about Russian meddling in Western politics, this one is out there in plain sight. The head of Nato, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, said the Russians, as part of a sophisticated disinformation operation, “engaged actively with so-called non-governmental organisations — environmental organisations working against shale gas — to maintain Europe’s dependence on imported Russian gas”.
Am not planning on moving so it’s irrelevant reallyThat should cover the 30%+ drop in your house value
Wow Russians must have a lot of power if they are able to create very localised earthquakes thousands of miles away whenever they want. I guess they also somehow sucked up all the shale gas we now realise we don't actually have because we now know how unsuitable the UK is for fracking.Interesting article on Russian disinformation and the campaign against fracking: https://thecritic.co.uk/issues/december-2019/the-plot-against-fracking/
The Russians also lobbied behind the scenes against shale gas, worried about losing their grip on the world’s gas supplies. Unlike most conspiracy theories about Russian meddling in Western politics, this one is out there in plain sight. The head of Nato, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, said the Russians, as part of a sophisticated disinformation operation, “engaged actively with so-called non-governmental organisations — environmental organisations working against shale gas — to maintain Europe’s dependence on imported Russian gas”.
Looks like you found some of the great unwashed judging by the reply’s your gettingIm pleased common sense has finally prevailed. I just hope the police lock up any of the great un washed who try to prevent it.
Get some wind farms out in the sea is the answer
That's an absurd thing to say... Of course it's relevant....Am not planning on moving so it’s irrelevant really
I actually hope it doesn’t can’t be doing with the idiots climbing on top of lorry roofs againThought the Government would allow fracking , providing the local community agrees.
So it seems it can’t go ahead on Preston New Road .
Not really, I’m not moving so I don’t care Quite happy with the 25% reduction on my energy bill thoughThat's an absurd thing to say... Of course it's relevant....
It may not bother you personally, but for most people their home is their largest asset... Why would anyone want to see a huge drop in their net worth, borrowing capacity, personal equity etc...
Living by the coast we think the UK is windier than it actually is.24.6GW installed already, they're currently producing under 5GW.
Too many companies fleecing us for renewable energy though. Just had a quote at work for £16k without the battery pack to potentially save me £200 a month with solar powerThe Age of digging in to the ground for our energy should be at an end, not just starting up. There is no need to do it if the govt would just invest properly in to green energy - which as I've stated on another thread can and would actually be a catalyst for economic growth.
And what is the break even point?Too many companies fleecing us for renewable energy though. Just had a quote at work for £16k without the battery pack to potentially save me £200 a month with solar power
If you don't care about your personal wealth reducing then fair play.... Personally I prefer my assets to go up in value. Though whether you sell your house or not, you are still losing actual cash.Not really, I’m not moving so I don’t care Quite happy with the 25% reduction on my energy bill though
Potentially ha ha they all say that & potentially the payback time will be many years assuming the sun shines brightly, but by this time if it’s like everything else you buy these days, you’ll have to replace parts or all of it. Some companies will get rich from it, as usual. Now if as someone else mentioned, new builds should be insulated to a much higher degree & incorporate solar panels & heat pump technology. To me they don’t seem to have done this.Too many companies fleecing us for renewable energy though. Just had a quote at work for £16k without the battery pack to potentially save me £200 a month with solar power
Why should I get used to it? It’s this government that has installed the sanctions causing this.It’s this government that printed billions of pounds out of thin air that’s causing this.The Lancs Live report states that the Fracking companies are "Considering" a 25% cut in bills. This does not mean it will happen.
The days of cheap energy is over, and people are going to have to get used to it. All the low hanging fruit of fossil fuels are in decline.
A better way to cut household energy bills would be to invest more in household insulation.
Just over 7 years awayAnd what is the break even point?
MailonlineNever heard of this 25% discount for locals before. Where was this information gleaned. Sounds like BS to me.
Got enough money to do all that as wellIf you don't care about your personal wealth reducing then fair play.... Personally I prefer my assets to go up in value. Though whether you sell your house or not, you are still losing actual cash.
Here's a bit of basic maths to help you to put this into context...
Let's assume a house value of £500,000
With an annual energy bill of £5,000
So the house value drops by 30% (£150,000) and in return you get the princely sum of £1250 off your energy bill
Of course you are not bothered.... "Because you don't intend to move"
Yet you could currently release that 30% equity £ 150,000 that you have in your property (which could be invested into a business or simply spunked up the wall on cars, designer clothes, Jewellery and you'd still have plenty left to cover the tiny 25% discount on your energy bills) and you would be no worse off than you would be as a result of Fracking.
The issue at the moment is scarcity... It has little to do with the cost of extraction...Fossil fuels are finite, they are becoming more expensive to extract, that is why!
Bloody RussiansInteresting article on Russian disinformation and the campaign against fracking: https://thecritic.co.uk/issues/december-2019/the-plot-against-fracking/
The Russians also lobbied behind the scenes against shale gas, worried about losing their grip on the world’s gas supplies. Unlike most conspiracy theories about Russian meddling in Western politics, this one is out there in plain sight. The head of Nato, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, said the Russians, as part of a sophisticated disinformation operation, “engaged actively with so-called non-governmental organisations — environmental organisations working against shale gas — to maintain Europe’s dependence on imported Russian gas”.
You've got enough money to throw £150K down the bog, yet you haven't "got enough money" to spend £16K on solar?Got enough money to do all that as well
That’s what l was advised seems standardJust over 7 years away
ExactlyLet’s hope they do it in your back garden then.
Spot on. All that guff about helping the local economy is hilarious. And some people believe it.It wont go into British households but will be sold off to the highest bidder in Europe. Making millions of profit for the fracking companies and leaving misery and stress for all those affected by the fracking. Its a big NO from me.