O/T speeding ticket

I'm convinced there's a BBC sitcom in a speed awareness course centre. You get such a random mix of people.

Mine featured a lad who kept coming up with "what if" scenarios where it was morally right to speed and challenging the guy running the course.

"What if you had someone who was very diabetic and their insulin was in a fridge and they needed it quickly"

"No, Tony, you still can't speed"

"Ok, what if you had someone in the car who needed to catch a flight because they were a liver doner for a sick child in foreign country?"

"Well, Tony, you'd just have to plan to set off earlier"

The guy running the course was unbelievably patient. Tony was great fun.

There was also a posh guy who seemed to feel he was in the wrong place, an Asian lady who was extremely embarrassed about it all, a builder who was fuming because it was costing him a day's work and me. I

It was weirdly good fun.
 
Tangman74 said:
Absolute tossers - van on the prom . 36mph -
May I ask anyone is it best to do the speed awareness course ?
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Definitely do the course I think you only get offered it after so many times of speeding, 3 I think, sit through it , put up with being lectured by knobheads, & keep quiet, they asked questions when I did it last such as why do you speed & for what reason, I made the mistake of saying rushing to get to a speed awareness course, they just single you out then so don’t even try to be funny they don’t like that at all, fair enough under the circumstances
Oh & anyone on here having a go at you for doing 36 in a 30 zone has I’m pretty sure done the same, but likes to preach about these things
According to my mate who’s in the police you get 10% leeway so if you were doing 33 fine
You used to be half in the classroom & then half out on the road, all classroom now
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
Sounds like you need it based on your reaction to being caught breaking the law. The difference between 30mph and 36mph could have been the life of a child.
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Oh please…..

You do realise that the Council sets speed limits with very little evidence to reduce deaths and are motivated by very few residents. The key element is generating revenue.
 
TangerineYfronts said:
Defo do the course. Be careful you can’t do another one for 3 years. If you had been doing 33 mph you wouldn’t have got a
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BigHandsOliverKahn said:
Sounds like you need it based on your reaction to being caught breaking the law. The difference between 30mph and 36mph could have been the life of a child.
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Another one that’s never driven over the speed limit eh ……I’m a very good driver and very aware of my surroundings .
Been driving for 31 years with zero points or indeed fines up until now . So please don’t preach to me - I wasn’t driving 50 down a school road
 
td53 said:
I'm convinced there's a BBC sitcom in a speed awareness course centre. You get such a random mix of people.

Mine featured a lad who kept coming up with "what if" scenarios where it was morally right to speed and challenging the guy running the course.

"What if you had someone who was very diabetic and their insulin was in a fridge and they needed it quickly"

"No, Tony, you still can't speed"

"Ok, what if you had someone in the car who needed to catch a flight because they were a liver doner for a sick child in foreign country?"

"Well, Tony, you'd just have to plan to set off earlier"

The guy running the course was unbelievably patient. Tony was great fun.

There was also a posh guy who seemed to feel he was in the wrong place, an Asian lady who was extremely embarrassed about it all, a builder who was fuming because it was costing him a day's work and me. I

It was weirdly good fun.
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Totally agree with you . A right eclectic mix on the one I went on too. Most said they'd really enjoyed it and learnt a bit too.
So lesson learnt as it were
 
Aero said:
I did one a couple of years ago online and the guy who took it was anything but officious.
He was very funny and made it a very pleasant experience even though none of us wanted to be on it.
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He wasn't called Manny was he? He was very entertaining
 
mull said:
Actually they're not officious pricks . As others have said , the courses are actually pretty decent. I think your comment says more about your attitude than theirs
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You got lucky, it was good cop bad cop on my last one, the questioner on the video they showed you was interesting & I got quite a few wrong so I did learn
 
Tangman74 said:
Another one that’s never driven over the speed limit eh ……I’m a very good driver and very aware of my surroundings .
Been driving for 31 years with zero points or indeed fines up until now . So please don’t preach to me - I wasn’t driving 50 down a school road
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Well read this if you are in any doubt 36mph can kill a small child.
 
Block j said:
Buy a electric trail bike, ride it on the road with no insurance ,tax, mot, helmet, swerve round any traffic , disobey all Highway Code and regulations , no problem ! Get caught doing 36 mph on the prom after spending 45 minutes at 8 mph 😡 Discuss
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One of those things undertook me on the prom the other day ,they are a menace . The old bill are too busy chasing people calling people names on SM.
 
mull said:
Actually they're not officious pricks . As others have said , the courses are actually pretty decent. I think your comment says more about your attitude than theirs
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Well if you were happy spending some hours of the day being lectured on, truthfully what you already knew, then crack on. I had better things to do.

Also the bottom line is someone driving at 34 in a 30 could be less dangerous than someone driving at 20. Only today I saw an older person come straight out their drive across the traffic missing a car 2 ahead narrowly. This is equally where the danger lies, if not more so.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
Well read this if you are in any doubt 36mph can kill a small child.
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Whilst that is very sad , they were driving under the speed limit of that road . So what do you suggest - shall we stop driving ?
Unfortunately if a
Child ran out infront of your car at 30 the outcome would probably be the same .
 
fcblackpool said:
Well if you were happy spending some hours of the day being lectured on, truthfully what you already knew, then crack on. I had better things to do.

Also the bottom line is someone driving at 34 in a 30 could be less dangerous than someone driving at 20. Only today I saw an older person come straight out their drive across the traffic missing a car 2 ahead narrowly. This is equally where the danger lies, if not more so.
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There is an old gentleman lives near us -
He
Must be well in his eighties . Can barely get in his car - imagine his reaction time ! But this is ok !
 
Tangman74 said:
Whilst that is very sad , they were driving under the speed limit of that road . So what do you suggest - shall we stop driving ?
Unfortunately if a
Child ran out infront of your car at 30 the outcome would probably be the same .
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That response only makes your attitude seem worse. How on earth can you attempt to justify speeding at 36mph in a 30mph by stating a child would die anyway at 30mph?

Can't you understand that if a child is killed at 36mph by someone on a road with a higher speed limit that it is all the more important that people don't break the speed limit on a 30mph road where pedestrians won't be expecting vehicles to be going at such a speed?

I think you've been very lucky to have had this happen to you instead of something much worse. Hope the course changes your attitude to speeding.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
That response only makes your attitude seem worse. How on earth can you attempt to justify speeding at 36mph in a 30mph by stating a child would die anyway at 30mph?

Can't you understand that if a child is killed at 36mph by someone on a road with a higher speed limit that it is all the more important that people don't break the speed limit on a 30mph road where pedestrians won't be expecting vehicles to be going at such a speed?

I think you've been very lucky to have had this happen to you instead of something much worse. Hope the course changes your attitude to speeding.
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You are missing the point . I have every sympathy for what happened to that child - but they were travelling under the speed limit for that road .
It was a very unfortunate accident .
I was not driving down a road at 50 where there is a school . The promenade was quiet , it’s a wide road , there was hardly anyone around , and my car happened to reach a speed of 36mph .
I accept the speed awareness course , it don’t actually need you to be preaching to me . And you still have not answered the question . Have you never gone over a speed limit before ? Hand on heart ?
 
Tangman74 said:
You are missing the point . I have every sympathy for what happened to that child - but they were travelling under the speed limit for that road .
It was a very unfortunate accident .
I was not driving down a road at 50 where there is a school . The promenade was quiet , it’s a wide road , there was hardly anyone around , and my car happened to reach a speed of 36mph .
I accept the speed awareness course , it don’t actually need you to be preaching to me . And you still have not answered the question . Have you never gone over a speed limit before ? Hand on heart ?
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BigHandsOliverKahn said:
That response only makes your attitude seem worse. How on earth can you attempt to justify speeding at 36mph in a 30mph by stating a child would die anyway at 30mph?

Can't you understand that if a child is killed at 36mph by someone on a road with a higher speed limit that it is all the more important that people don't break the speed limit on a 30mph road where pedestrians won't be expecting vehicles to be going at such a speed?

I think you've been very lucky to have had this happen to you instead of something much worse. Hope the course changes your attitude to speeding.
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It's a debate to be had, but impact at 30 and hard braking or impact at 20 and delayed reaction.

Every 70 yo should have to take an annual test.
 
Tangman74 said:
You are missing the point . I have every sympathy for what happened to that child - but they were travelling under the speed limit for that road .
It was a very unfortunate accident .
I was not driving down a road at 50 where there is a school . The promenade was quiet , it’s a wide road , there was hardly anyone around , and my car happened to reach a speed of 36mph .
I accept the speed awareness course , it don’t actually need you to be preaching to me . And you still have not answered the question . Have you never gone over a speed limit before ? Hand on heart ?
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The point is most of us have exceeded the speed limit at sometime but we don't try to justify it or think it should not be an offence. The limit is there for a reason and there is rarely a decent reason for breaking it.
 
Notice they’ve given themselves a spot near the old Pontins site, looking straight down Clifton Drive North towards St Anne’s - a road that is now 30mph - previously 40mph, and before that 50mph.
That will be a nice little earner for them.
Also on the Amounderness Way between Nautical College and Asda. Also Amounderness Way near Pheasant’s Wood lay-by. St Michaels and Churchtown, where the 50mph goes down to 30mph through the villages.
 
A little girl, standing on the pavement with her parents, suddenly (and for no reason) ran out in front of me on Sharoe Green Lane. My emergency stop was pretty spectacular I have to say! I’ll never forget the sound of her mum’s guttural scream 🙄. I admit though I don’t always stick to the limit, but was mightily glad I did on that day…
Been on the speed awareness once.. it is what it is, a bit boring but quite interesting at the same time..
 
TotallyTangerine said:
A little girl, standing on the pavement with her parents, suddenly (and for no reason) ran out in front of me on Sharoe Green Lane. My emergency stop was pretty spectacular I have to say! I’ll never forget the sound of her mum’s guttural scream 🙄. I admit though I don’t always stick to the limit, but was mightily glad I did on that day…
Been on the speed awareness once.. it is what it is, a bit boring but quite interesting at the same time..
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Cheers for the post
 
Do the course - the points stay on your license for 3 years but the offence is live for 5 which means higher insurance premiums for 5 years.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I’ve done a few… they’ve trimmed them down over the years… The early ones included a practical driving assessment and lasted the full day.

The newer ones are over and done with in a few hours. You do learn a few things and the blokes who run them are normally fine.

There’s generally a tosser or two in among the attendees mind you.
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BFCx3,
When did you last do one? Just because when I did, there was one of those 'I know everything' types 😅 🙄 👍
 
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I would imagine that the course is easier now it's onliine. ( or was that just through Covid?) I had to go to The Holiday Inn in Preston for a full days course. 9am - 5pm. Did I learn anything? well TBH nothing about driving really but I did learn that didn't want to go throught that again, so I do keep to the speed limits these days. Getting caught isn't worth the points or the fine and an increase in your car insurance.
 
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It should be Points and a Fine plus the Course and a mandatory ban at 12 points. None of this, I need to drive for my job, I can't afford to lose my licence.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
I find that an astonishing comment if I’am being honest. 🙄
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Responding to the original comment that 36 kills a child whereas 30 doesn’t. My view about speeding is that often what is badged as safety is actually about revenue generation. Some roads go from 40 to 30 on the whim of a couple of Councillors with little or no justification.

I lived in Essex and a main dual carriageway which was a 70 limit heading to Southend suddenly went down to 50. Then cameras arrived. It was not an accident hotspot and this kind of thing is happening everywhere.
 
Wilburrabbit said:
Responding to the original comment that 36 kills a child whereas 30 doesn’t. My view about speeding is that often what is badged as safety is actually about revenue generation. Some roads go from 40 to 30 on the whim of a couple of Councillors with little or no justification.

I lived in Essex and a main dual carriageway which was a 70 limit heading to Southend suddenly went down to 50. Then cameras arrived. It was not an accident hotspot and this kind of thing is happening everywhere.
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In the lane district , some of those tight roads round the lakes are 60 mph - makes no sense .
 
Mr Tangerine Man said:
I would imagine that the course is easier now it's onliine. ( or was that just through Covid?) I had to go to The Holiday Inn in Preston for a full days course. 9am - 5pm. Did I learn anything? well TBH nothing about driving really but I did learn that didn't want to go throught that again, so I do keep to the speed limits these days. Getting caught isn't worth the points or the fine and an increase in your car insurance.
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I had to go to Carlisle for doing 82 mph on the M6. One bloke had come from Wick. Everyone else had been caught on the M 6 too but the course was all about speeding in built up areas. We kept asking when he'd get to motorway speeding but he never did. It was quite interesting though and he did touch on driving way too slow too, it being a problem as well.
 
I got pulled for speeding in the 70s, doing 42 in a 30 in Accrington. Copper asked why was I in such a hurry I explained I was late for an old school pals wedding as I'd got lost and was still lost.
He asked which church, I told him he said follow me and he took me there, I arrived just on time. Decent Bobby, wouldn't have happened in Blackpool.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
The answer is simple don’t speed and you won’t get caught and you won’t have to call people tossers for enforcing national speed limits.
They are there for a reason. 👍
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I agree. I rarely speed (I'm not going to say never), I constantly look for the speed limit and stick the car in cruise control just under the limit if it is safe to do so.


But . . . many years ago I did a 1,000 mile tour of Scotland and stuck rigidly to the speed limit at all times. If anyone wanted to go faster I'd give them room to go past etc . . . proper do-gooder I know. So whilst driving down a long stretch of road, dry, bright and deserted and a 60mph zone I was followed by an undercover car (a Rover Stirling!) and pulled over. When asked what speed I was doing I said "about 40-45 mph?" Turns out I was doing 45mph but there was a change in the limit to 30 mph. The signpost was well worn and partially obscured by bushes so I challenged it. The reply "Tuff shit!" (or the unhelpful, don't care equivalent) Must admit I am still annoyed about that.
 
Fargo99 said:
I got pulled for speeding in the 70s, doing 42 in a 30 in Accrington. Copper asked why was I in such a hurry I explained I was late for an old school pals wedding as I'd got lost and was still lost.
He asked which church, I told him he said follow me and he took me there, I arrived just on time. Decent Bobby, wouldn't have happened in Blackpool.
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And what about our old pal (no names, no pack drill) who was bombing it down Victoria Road in Cleveleys in his Capri back in the day and was pulled up by the rozzers, who asked him....

"What appears to be the problem Wing Commander, are you having trouble getting it off the ground?"

Oh how we POSL!😁🍻
 
Tangman74 said:
Opposites the pleasure beach
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The word is ‘Opposire’ …….the promenade

Does anyone on here really have any sympathy

I almost killed a kid (7 years of age) once well under the speed limit - it haunts me to this day and it was all his fault ! Playing chicken the police said after the interrogation x’s of a lifetime ! Not one witness helped or supported the innocent driver !
 
Camberwell1 said:
The word is ‘Opposire’ …….the promenade

Does anyone on here really have any sympathy

I almost killed a kid (7 years of age) once well under the speed limit - it haunts me to this day and it was all his fault ! Playing chicken the police said after the interrogation x’s of a lifetime ! Not one witness helped or supported the innocent driver !
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A similar situation happened to me many years ago , a young girl was stood in the middle of the road in-between traffic waiting to cross and just has I approached her she decided to cross .

Luckily I anticipated in time and only caught her a glancing blow , she escaped with a few bruises but I have never forgotten that incident and it's made me a better driver , I have never been convicted of any motoring offence in 45 years of driving a car .

So out of a very traumatic incident for me came some good,

PS luckily I had witnesses also .
 
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