INO Podcast- Ian Holloway interview.

Sticking this on now, great work on getting him on!

Edit: nice story about Gary Bowyer getting you in touch with him, and the text messages about the job. Seems like a good bloke all round.
 
Listened to the first half last night, firstly kudos to Tom and the team in getting the interview.

Its the Holloway paradox isn’t it, as said earlier his views around Karl are mad and wildly inconsistent yet Holloway without doubt provided the most entertaining team, in the most enjoyable period of time, I’ve experienced as a Blackpool fan and likely to do in the neat future.

Some of the stories and games i had forgotten about, and without doubt the sense of nostalgia brought home how special those days were.

Looking forward to listening to the second half!
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
The majority thought they were doing a good job, some respected Joffrey's stance on agents on these very pages.
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Yep and I don't think Karl was far wrong about greedy agents? I don't think anyone here would disagree with the greed in football.

The extremities he went elsewhere and his obsession with Slazenger clothing was probably my issue with him.
 
Listened last night. Was a good interview which I enjoyed. Yeh the KO bits I dont agree on but his relationship would be very different to a fans perspective and probably his best period in management he would always look back fondly with the people involved. He did disagree with his stance too so it's not all rose tinted.
Good interview with a manager who got his team to play some wonderful football.
 
SeasideKurt said:
Yep and I don't think Karl was far wrong about greedy agents? I don't think anyone here would disagree with the greed in football.

The extremities he went elsewhere and his obsession with Slazenger clothing was probably my issue with him.
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But it was just an extension of them not paying the bills really, the place was so run down because no trades would touch them.
 
Holloway plays his working class credentials. You would therefore think he would understand that anyone who knocks local small businesses for bills is a disgrace to humanity.
 
I was enjoying it until he said "I know you lot fell out with him in the end, but you know what, I wouldn't have wanted anyone else to be my fricking chairman."

'You lot'? Had to turn it off.
 
HighfieldSeasider said:
I was enjoying it until he said "I know you lot fell out with him in the end, but you know what, I wouldn't have wanted anyone else to be my fricking chairman."

'You lot'? Had to turn it off.
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What do you want him to say? Bristol Rovers would be a 'we', Blackpool will always be a 'you'.

Blackpool fans get too anal about what he says or does. Oyston penny pinching made the success even sweeter for him. I honestly will never understand how some people speak less of him just because he won't slag off Oyston.
 
HighfieldSeasider said:
I was enjoying it until he said "I know you lot fell out with him in the end, but you know what, I wouldn't have wanted anyone else to be my fricking chairman."

'You lot'? Had to turn it off.
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I would have liked the fans position to have been put to him properly.

Saying yes KO stubbornness was a factor in our journey and you and the players used that, he let you be and didn't interfere etc we get all that. Greed in the game etc made sense, but at times you have to play the game or lose out.

But he himself indicated why he left and he effectively expected to be trusted to and given a bit more support, progress on a TG etc, didn't want to lose people from the special group though stubbornness etc.

So given what happened after that, surely he can understand the fans side, does he even know fully what happened and the suing of fans etc. It was like we won the lottery and carried on living on 90 quid a week. The stadium falling apart, broken promises.

Surely if he was a fan he wouldn't have been happy about that and surely suing fans was crossing a line.

He really should have been asked if he understood that and given what the court ruled what he thought about them now.

I'm a big fan of his and I get some aspects of liking the relationship but surely you've got to have some awareness.

He wonders why his phone hasn't rang, from our side it would be impossible to tbh, as he either doesn't understand the issues or won't comment on it for some weird reason.
 
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I just had time to listen to it in full and he loves to talk!!

I thought it was very interesting and he clearly loved his time here. Would I want him back as manager now? No, I wouldn't. Would I want him as Director of Football> Yes I would, he would be a great face of the club and would be positive about everything, he would also be invaluable as an ear for Critchley. It was interesting to hear how much Sir Jimmy was an influence to him during his time here, Critchley would benefit massively from someone like Holloway as a sounding board.

As for the Karl stuff, he knew what he was like but he says it as he found him and overall he got on okay with him and was left to his own devices. It doesn't matter that some of you think he is a snake for praising Karl, but why should he lie about his experience just to appease some supporters who can't actually listen to what he says. He still says his legacy was a few sprinklers in the pitch and that was it.
 
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hertfordseasider said:
I just had time to listen to it in full and he loves to talk!!

I thought it was very interesting and he clearly loved his time here. Would I want him back as manager now? No, I wouldn't. Would I want him as Director of Football> Yes I would, he would be a great face of the club and would be positive about everything, he would also be invaluable as an ear for Critchley. It was interesting to hear how much Sir Jimmy was an influence to him during his time here, Critchley would benefit massively from someone like Holloway as a sounding board.

As for the Karl stuff, he knew what he was like but he says it as he found him and overall he got on okay with him and was left to his own devices. It doesn't matter that some of you think he is a snake for praising Karl, but why should he lie about his experience just to appease some supporters who can't actually listen to what he says. He still says his legacy was a few sprinklers in the pitch and that was it.
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People forget that KO was his boss and paid his wages indirectly and tbh being left alone to get on with it is every managers dream.

Also they make too much out of what he says, should say or doesn't say. Just look back at his time as being the best since 1976/7 with most not even knowing that period.
 
Whilst I don't agree with him, the easiest thing for him to do would have been to jump on the anti O stance and slate the KO. He hasn't, he's stood by his own principals and views and has to be admired for that even though it leaves a bad taste in our mouths.
 
hertfordseasider said:
I just had time to listen to it in full and he loves to talk!!

I thought it was very interesting and he clearly loved his time here. Would I want him back as manager now? No, I wouldn't. Would I want him as Director of Football> Yes I would, he would be a great face of the club and would be positive about everything, he would also be invaluable as an ear for Critchley. It was interesting to hear how much Sir Jimmy was an influence to him during his time here, Critchley would benefit massively from someone like Holloway as a sounding board.

As for the Karl stuff, he knew what he was like but he says it as he found him and overall he got on okay with him and was left to his own devices. It doesn't matter that some of you think he is a snake for praising Karl, but why should he lie about his experience just to appwase some supporters who can't actually listen to what he says. He still says his legacy was a few sprinklers in the pitch and that was it.
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Agree with all that except I wouldn't bring him back as director of football, he's the biggest personality we've had here in a generation and certainly the most successful, he'd overshadow everything else and he used to be in control of everything.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Agree with all that except I wouldn't bring him back as director of football, he's the biggest personality we've had here in a generation and certainly the most successful, he'd overshadow everything else and he used to be in control of everything.
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Yeah possibly, it is a shame we haven't got a Jimmy Armfield type figurehead at the club, I can't think of anyone other than Ollie that could do it though, but he would overshadow everything else, but of course that could take the pressure of the manager and owner, I don't know.
 
Jimmy was a knowledgeable football man and someone who was happy to lend that knowledge in an understated manner.

I am really grateful for what Ollie did for us. I loved every minute of it. But it’s really hard to imagine Ollie supplying advice in a director of football role without him making it all about him, or to be fair the media making it all about home. It just wouldn’t work unless the manager was a
high profile appointment as well.
 
hertfordseasider said:
Yeah possibly, it is a shame we haven't got a Jimmy Armfield type figurehead at the club, I can't think of anyone other than Ollie that could do it though, but he would overshadow everything else, but of course that could take the pressure of the manager and owner, I don't know.
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Can't be IH herts. He'd want to run the show.

You need to be the voice of reason when things are going awry. IH isnt that sort.
 
The time to get him back was probably when we got McCarthy in.

I’d still have him now but most dull fuckers wouldn’t agree I’m sure.
 
hertfordseasider said:
Yeah possibly, it is a shame we haven't got a Jimmy Armfield type figurehead at the club, I can't think of anyone other than Ollie that could do it though, but he would overshadow everything else, but of course that could take the pressure of the manager and owner, I don't know.
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Ollie's strength is motivating players, I don't see him as a director of football type. And I just don't see him ever being back at the club tbh. Enjoy the memories and move on. There's plenty of options for director of football if we wanted one. Does Colin Hendry still live locally? 😵‍💫
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Great listen that👍

I said I’d never want to go back, but after listening to that…. You just would, wouldn’t you!!! @TwelveAngryMen is right, it would be ridiculous.


Maybe - ‘Ridiculous’ is ‘The Blackpool Way’ 😂👍
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As a fan of him there's just too much baggage I think for many.

He's actually far worse than I thought about KO etc, I was cringing at points.

Like there's no recognition or ability to say...

"Yes all those things I said were true from my view at that time, at the time he played a role, gave me freedom, appreciated the straight talking, stuck to his ways, it was a frustrating role at times and in the end that got to me with the lack of progress and wore me down etc.

However, what happened after that with the fans and the court case was obviously hard to watch, no one likes to see that and the court ruled as it did for a reason, they were clearly in the wrong.

But I was only speaking about my working relationship at the time and the way in which we used that as a benefit."

Maybe he doesn't know the half of what happened as most outsiders don't, but he should know enough to be able to say what was happening was wrong. Maybe he could be educated on it.

But for me the failure to do the above will just have tarnished his reputation to too many. No one want someone waxing lyrical about those tossers, read the room.

His football also wouldn't be as effective these days, as football is more technical and most play a certain way, although maybe not as outright attacking.

He may be a spent force, don't want to keep going back too, although he's mad and it would be fun.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Great listen that👍

I said I’d never want to go back, but after listening to that…. You just would, wouldn’t you!!! @TwelveAngryMen is right, it would be ridiculous.


Maybe - ‘Ridiculous’ is ‘The Blackpool Way’ 😂👍
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I actually thought different, have always been a huge fan of Ollie for his remarkable work for us, but god he didn't half waffle some shite on that pod! A million words when five will do. No offence intended to the pod people. He's like an uncaged animal on the loose and in the early stages of dementia. If he was director of football we'd need a Director of the Director of Football.
 
The only way it would work is of he got locked in the Armfield club and properly educated by Raggy etc and if then he understood, he might just have a chance...

Could be streamed on TTV.
 
I could absolutely listen to Holloway talk about blackpool all day long.

I would absolutely love to see what he could do with our current squad!
 
voyeur said:
I actually thought different, have always been a huge fan of Ollie for his remarkable work for us, but god he didn't half waffle some shite on that pod! A million words when five will do. No offence intended to the pod people. He's like an uncaged animal on the loose and in the early stages of dementia. If he was director of football we'd need a Director of the Director of Football.
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He’s always been the same… Completely random and Mad Cap and you can’t shut him up. Like him or loathe him, he’s a unique character and it’s not difficult to see why his players were prepared to run through brick walls for him.

Every credit to the INO Team for pulling it off 👍
 
Just got round to listening to it.

I just don't get the defending of Karl and then in the same breath he describes him being the cheapest, most swindling bastard going. The way he describes how Karl didn't sign any of the players until right at the end of the window in the prem, how he did fuck all in the January, how he fucked over all the players when we came down by offering them less money than before their pay rises - yet defends him, it is madness.

I was hoping the pod would help forget the sourness of the Oyston defending over the years as just being a celebration of the glory days, but it has renewed some of it in my mind. So thankful for what he did but christ it was tough listening to how much of this pod was borderline Oyston arse licking. I feel like he maybe should have been challenged on some of his comments.
 
hertfordseasider said:
I just had time to listen to it in full and he loves to talk!!

I thought it was very interesting and he clearly loved his time here. Would I want him back as manager now? No, I wouldn't. Would I want him as Director of Football> Yes I would, he would be a great face of the club and would be positive about everything, he would also be invaluable as an ear for Critchley. It was interesting to hear how much Sir Jimmy was an influence to him during his time here, Critchley would benefit massively from someone like Holloway as a sounding board.

As for the Karl stuff, he knew what he was like but he says it as he found him and overall he got on okay with him and was left to his own devices. It doesn't matter that some of you think he is a snake for praising Karl, but why should he lie about his experience just to appease some supporters who can't actually listen to what he says. He still says his legacy was a few sprinklers in the pitch and that was it.
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In regards to the last part though, with some critical thinking on Holloway's part you should weigh it up like:

Pros:
- he was an owner who let me do what I want, and I had great success because of that.

Cons:
- fucked over all my employees who helped me achieve that success the second the success was over by cutting their wages significantly.
- intentionally ran the business into the ground after I left, destroying all of my legacy and the l
club for the local community.
- attempted to ruin regular people's lives who dared criticise him, as a millionaire suing them when it was later proven that he was stealing millions from the club.

It'd be like if your boss years done the line got done for sexual harassment and you were like "well I don't know about all that, what can I say - never did owt to me, he gave me that promotion and pay rise that time!". If you had any objectivity you could recognise the guy was a ** regardless of what personal achievements he helped you reach.
 
Sadly Ollies management career went downhill when he left Blackpool. Sounds like he is desperate for a Managers job again. Unfortunately he's going to be judged on his performance at Grimsby! He can't remove that disaster from his CV.
 
The reality is he doesn't give a toss about what people lost, fans being sued etc. He lives in his own bipolar bubble and says things to get a reaction. And of course any time we get a bit of profile, a cup tie for instance, some producer thinks it's a great idea to bring him out of mothballs for another incoherent ramble. Not for me.
 
Mark_GT said:
The reality is he doesn't give a toss about what people lost, fans being sued etc. He lives in his own bipolar bubble and says things to get a reaction. And of course any time we get a bit of profile, a cup tie for instance, some producer thinks it's a great idea to bring him out of mothballs for another incoherent ramble. Not for me.
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And rightly so it's just another job for some bloke who done good.

Anyone who who's manages us will always get my 💯, but when it turns to bad or they leave us in the lurch and then slag us fans off can go and fuck themselves.👍
 
TangerinePeel said:
In regards to the last part though, with some critical thinking on Holloway's part you should weigh it up like:

Pros:
- he was an owner who let me do what I want, and I had great success because of that.

Cons:
- fucked over all my employees who helped me achieve that success the second the success was over by cutting their wages significantly.
- intentionally ran the business into the ground after I left, destroying all of my legacy and the l
club for the local community.
- attempted to ruin regular people's lives who dared criticise him, as a millionaire suing them when it was later proven that he was stealing millions from the club.

It'd be like if your boss years done the line got done for sexual harassment and you were like "well I don't know about all that, what can I say - never did owt to me, he gave me that promotion and pay rise that time!". If you had any objectivity you could recognise the guy was a ** regardless of what personal achievements he helped you reach.
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The fact he doesn't seem to have the ability or judgement to say that os very disappointing and maybe telling.

It's kind of what I said earlier in the thread, reading the room, admitting there were some things that led to our success, some good aspects to the relationship at the time - fine, but also bad things and that's why he left, what happened after he won the club mega money and after he left was clearly wrong, no legacy, suing fans etc.

Had he said that far more would have respect and understanding with him.

I'm not one of his haters, loved the guy, but that interview was disappointing from that pov, as a simple addressing of what happened to the club and addressing the facts would have gone a long way.

Disappointing he either doesn't want to touch on it or just doesn't get it.
 
JJpool said:
The fact he doesn't seem to have the ability or judgement to say that os very disappointing and maybe telling.

It's kind of what I said earlier in the thread, reading the room, admitting there were some things that led to our success, some good aspects to the relationship at the time - fine, but also bad things and that's why he left, what happened after he won the club mega money and after he left was clearly wrong, no legacy, suing fans etc.

Had he said that far more would have respect and understanding with him.

I'm not one of his haters, loved the guy, but that interview was disappointing from that pov, as a simple addressing of what happened to the club and addressing the facts would have gone a long way.

Disappointing he either doesn't want to touch on it or just doesn't get it.
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It's really strange at times, as if he's trying to convince you Karl is alright.
 
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