It’s Not The Players, It’s The Manager.

Theoneandonly

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Well this season’s five million is nearly spent and we didn’t even make the play offs. There will be a clamor for Apter to return but people miss the Adkins difference. With far less resources than Critchley he plays the players he has to their strengths. If Apter comes back here that will not be the case and the goals and his continued development will dissipate.
 
If we had Yates/Simms up front since January instead of Beasley/Lavery we would have made the plays offs. Just don't have the quality up front.

Squad ain't that good.
That’s a bloody good point. We get the ball regularly to the edge of the box and we create chances. The issue is finishing them.

A fit Rhodes in 2024 and we’d have made the play offs.
 
So £6m worth of talent.....you have a point.
Cost us five million to tread water this season. Sadler and Critchley took a gamble this year and it didn’t pay off. The problem is Critchley ends as he began and seemingly learned nothing or is capable of pivoting when his tactics failed. No one wastes energy disliking Critchley what has bothered fans is the meek manner of our chosen mediocrity. The players know and the fans know we could have done better and Critchley never gave us a chance with his setup. We are soooooo predictable.
 
Except he’s not our player, he’s another year older, he will get injured and one player should not be our sole goalscorer.
I meant since Jan 1st to the end of this season.

I wouldn’t sign him in the summer unless he was additional to another couple. (Injuries will be catching up and unlikely we’d get a full season out of him)
 
It's clearly both. Critchley has been guilty but then equally what can he do about our shite strikers missing golden opportunities all season. What can he do about Marv today just walking away from his man in the box giving them a clear chance which fortunately they missed but through the season the defence give chances away that the opposition score. That's not coaching it's not managing, it's poor players being poor.
 
It's both
Yep, both. I agree that this side isn't as good as the promotion side.
However, I don't think the league is as strong either (just my opinion), even at the top end. I can't recall seeing a side at BR this season who I felt would hold their own in the Championship.

I feel that not making the top 6 would/will be a failure on the coach's part, and unconvincing 1-0 wins against mid/lower table sides doesn't really change that. He just hasn't seemed to be able to change anything when we're struggling, particularly away from home.

It's generally the sign of a good side that can "win ugly", but we've recently been hanging on against pretty poor sides in games we should have been out of sight but for poor finishing.
 
It's clearly both. Critchley has been guilty but then equally what can he do about our shite strikers missing golden opportunities all season. What can he do about Marv today just walking away from his man in the box giving them a clear chance which fortunately they missed but through the season the defence give chances away that the opposition score. That's not coaching it's not managing, it's poor players being poor.
He can do his job. Coach the players he has to play a system they are suited for in their best positions. Mistakes happen work on them in training. We make the same mistakes now that we did at the start of the season and that is on him. The players we have are his players.
 
He can do his job. Coach the players he has to play a system they are suited for in their best positions. Mistakes happen work on them in training. We make the same mistakes now that we did at the start of the season and that is on him.
I'm sure he does though. This notion that he doesn't is bizarre. Guardiola couldn't coach Beesley and Lavery to be good strikers cos they just arent. He couldn't coach mistakes on the ball out of Marv cos that's the level he is. Where I will totally agree is if Critch doesn't rectify it in the summer with signings. At that point it is absolutely on him and him alone.
CJ playing though, now that is on him. Wierd selection.
 
We dominated that game from start to finish and Grimmy never had to make a save so can someone please tell me how the set up was wrong?
If 2 more of those chances had gone in then the set up wouldn’t have been mentioned. The conditions were awful and we dealt with them.
I’ve said this before that it ain’t Critch’s fault if the players don’t take their chances and you don’t need to be an out and out striker to convert some of the opportunities we’ve created over the past few games
 
The squad as a whole isn’t seeing enough. Since Rhodes got injured. We’ve struggled to have that ruthless edge in the box, Lavery exhibit A today who missed a sitter. We’ve been 3 or 4 players short, can’t just blame Critchley for us not quite getting into the play offs.
 
We're all jumping the 'season over' gun because we're bored senseless with our football.
There are so many more questions than answers.
How many of the squad are good enough, how many can we get rid of?
Hard if they're in contract - I doubt many clubs would be busting a gut to sign Shayne, Beesley, or CJ.
Can we keep Byers and Demebele?
The midfield needs bolstering and the forward line needs major surgery.
Does Critch realise this - because it's worrying how he remains loyal to a number of players who are just not good enough.
 
We dominated that game from start to finish and Grimmy never had to make a save so can someone please tell me how the set up was wrong?
If 2 more of those chances had gone in then the set up wouldn’t have been mentioned. The conditions were awful and we dealt with them.
I’ve said this before that it ain’t Critch’s fault if the players don’t take their chances and you don’t need to be an out and out striker to convert some of the opportunities we’ve created over the past few games
So stop saying it as it doesn’t make it right. The table doesn’t lie. We ‘ve not been in a playoff position all season. We sit way too deep, and obviously haven’t worked on our defending or finishing as nothing has improved all season. These are Critchley and Sadler’s players. Supposedly scouted, vetted and coached.
 
I meant since Jan 1st to the end of this season.

I wouldn’t sign him in the summer unless he was additional to another couple. (Injuries will be catching up and unlikely we’d get a full season out of him)
If we're still league one I'd sign him.like a shot. Question is, where will Huddersfield be?
 
Tbf he was doing well and most on here were ecstatic .
Sorry, AngelBFC, but I think you must've accidentally logged onto an entirely different site there. Because, when addressing the question of posts submitted on here concerning C...omplete J...oke Hamilton, literally, the only ones I can recall containing a positive/ecstatic (WTF!?) message/tone came directly from you. Everyone one else just heaps scorn and ridicule on Critch's poster boy. As a human being - terrific bloke; as a fully paid up Division 1 footballer - he's a total non-starter.

Although it pains me to have to say it, the performances he is currently treating us to, are, quite frankly, beyond embarrasing.
 
So stop saying it as it doesn’t make it right. The table doesn’t lie. We ‘ve not been in a playoff position all season. We sit way too deep, and obviously haven’t worked on our defending or finishing as nothing has improved all season. These are Critchley and Sadler’s players. Supposedly scouted, vetted and coached.
Can you answer my my question please and just tell me what was wrong with that set up set today
 
To be fair to CJ, he's not a right back, left back, wing back or anything back.
He's a left winger, who should push the ball ten yards in front of him, leg it after the ball and whip a cross in on his stronger foot.
However we don't play with wingers and we give him a 3 year deal.....go figure !
 
I'm sure he does though. This notion that he doesn't is bizarre. Guardiola couldn't coach Beesley and Lavery to be good strikers cos they just arent. He couldn't coach mistakes on the ball out of Marv cos that's the level he is. Where I will totally agree is if Critch doesn't rectify it in the summer with signings. At that point it is absolutely on him and him alone.
CJ playing though, now that is on him. Wierd selection.
'Wierd (Sic) selection'?

More like, 'Absolutely insane, monstrous, irrational, incomprehensible, and, finally, totally bewildering - selection.'
 
Can you answer my my question please and just tell me what was wrong with that set up set today
Really? Are you going to be any smarter? You can’t figure it out yourself? We beat a very poor team by one goal having taken the lead. We played CJ as what exactly? Certainly not the winger he might be. They had one cleared off the line and were denied a penalty. Despite having the bulk of possession we managed two shots on target. We’re not set up to attack and we’ve become the Valium of the third division. We’re neither entertaining or judging by our position outside of the playoffs all season effective. Sadler would have done more good throwing five million in the street rather than enable our manager. As is do you see anything that suggests promotion next season?
 
We dominated that game from start to finish and Grimmy never had to make a save so can someone please tell me how the set up was wrong?
If 2 more of those chances had gone in then the set up wouldn’t have been mentioned. The conditions were awful and we dealt with them.
I’ve said this before that it ain’t Critch’s fault if the players don’t take their chances and you don’t need to be an out and out striker to convert some of the opportunities we’ve created over the past few games
But the way Critchley sets up doesn’t create a lot of clear chances for our strikers, regardless of how good (or not) they may be.
 
We dominated that game from start to finish and Grimmy never had to make a save so can someone please tell me how the set up was wrong?
If 2 more of those chances had gone in then the set up wouldn’t have been mentioned. The conditions were awful and we dealt with them.
I’ve said this before that it ain’t Critch’s fault if the players don’t take their chances and you don’t need to be an out and out striker to convert some of the opportunities we’ve created over the past few games
Errrr, just to clarify, Elephantman, and for the benefit of those followers who may not be aware, are you in a position to be able to tell everyone the identity of whoever it is that selects these 'malfunctioning' players? I mean, I've got my suspicions, but I'm just looking for absolute confirmation ...
 
But the way Critchley sets up doesn’t create a lot of clear chances for our strikers, regardless of how good (or not) they may be.
Let’s continue that thought. And strikers in the third division need more chances to score goals. That is why With the exception of Rhodes who did play at a higher standard our strikers are in the third division.
 
Sorry, AngelBFC, but I think you must've accidentally logged onto an entirely different site there. Because, when addressing the question of posts submitted on here concerning C...omplete J...oke Hamilton, literally, the only ones I can recall containing a positive/ecstatic (WTF!?) message/tone came directly from you. Everyone one else just heaps scorn and ridicule on Critch's poster boy. As a human being - terrific bloke; as a fully paid up Division 1 footballer - he's a total non-starter.

Although it pains me to have to say it, the performances he is currently treating us to, are, quite frankly, beyond embarrasing.
Nope .Not just me .

I’m definately reading this site tarantula .

 
Errrr, just to clarify, Elephantman, and for the benefit of those followers who may not be aware, are you in a position to be able to tell everyone the identity of whoever it is that selects these 'malfunctioning' players? I mean, I've got my suspicions, but I'm just looking for absolute confirmation ...
Very sad that you have to revert to childish name calling and if you took time to read my post properly the question was what was wrong with that set up yesterday?
We had 60% possession, 14 shots, 2 on target and 12 corners.
Had the stats been reversed then yes it would have been a bad set up and the manager would have deserved criticism, but it wasn’t.
Regardless of how poor the opposition are teams still have to perform to get a result.
That “set up” yesterday did it’s job.
The problem is that quite a few on here just look to criticise all the time, regardless of the result, and they think we have a God given right to win every game but that isn’t what football is about. Are Liverpool and Arsenal fans going to blame their managers for today’s defeats? Not a cat in hells chance.
 
Very sad that you have to revert to childish name calling and if you took time to read my post properly the question was what was wrong with that set up yesterday?
We had 60% possession, 14 shots, 2 on target and 12 corners.
Had the stats been reversed then yes it would have been a bad set up and the manager would have deserved criticism, but it wasn’t.
Regardless of how poor the opposition are teams still have to perform to get a result.
That “set up” yesterday did it’s job.
The problem is that quite a few on here just look to criticise all the time, regardless of the result, and they think we have a God given right to win every game but that isn’t what football is about. Are Liverpool and Arsenal fans going to blame their managers for today’s defeats? Not a cat in hells chance.
Apparently you can’t read. That’s a problem because it means you only have your own viewpoint which narrows your ability to think. Worse you know no one is right about things all the time.

They were a crap team and we only registered two shots on target, they should have had a penalty and had one cleared off the line. We also haven’t been in a play off position all season. If that doesn’t tell you the set up is wrong nothing will.
 
17th in League Two hardly makes a difference!
So like us except their budget is lower they are not getting promoted. You are right no real difference between us except they helped one of ours progress his career.

To put this season in Critchley perspective. We only have one candidate for player of the season - Grimshaw and he’s only improved because our system of playing so deep has given him plenty of practice and Critchley couldn’t play him out of position. Can you think of another season where only one of our players improved? I can’t.
 
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