28 for Cardiff City

TimperleyTangerine said:
Bit paranoid that Plumbs.

I’ve been quite vocal on this thread, but I’ve no connection with BST and I’m not a member. My views are my own and Poolfc has acknowledged he could have made his point differently.
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Apologies and it wasnt directed at you. We're all entitled to an opinion which I respect in your case MOT
 
I live on the opposite side of the country and thought about a season ticket but to be honest I couldn't commit to midweek home games and couldn't guarantee every Saturday I would be able to get over so it wasn't worth the outlay.

For the matches I will be going to am I happy paying £28 - definitely - although a membership scheme for early bookers/loyalty points/discounts etc should be available as there are plenty of people who are struggling financially especially in the Blackpool area.

The mackems down the road from me are charging £26 for their first game agains the pie eaters but that's for lower league football !!!!!!
 
Plumbs said:
Exactly and I wonder who's behind it? I just had to send this in after numerous complaints on one of my posts apparently.

"I understand that a post has been removed concerning comments about BSTs secretary being out of touch with the local community, but this isnt criticism on the person concerned as such.

I have had many issues with the Football Supporters Association on the fact their main committee is London-centric ,where for instance one member is Exeters representative but lives in London

This is important because the economic demographic changes regionally especially after the COVID issues, and in my view these London based fans have no idea when it comes to debating ticket prices etc and its a wholly relevant point.

AVFTT needs to stop pandering to the Blackpool Supporters Trust who are once again trying to run this board in my view"
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Plumbs, I think your bottom comments re BST is a tad unfair and doesn’t do our neutral posters like myself any respect.

I’ve posted on here more recently due to personal circumstances, but for a decade or more I mainly just read posts on the old board. In all that time, I’ve never paid any attention to who is who, I take each post by its merit and I’m sure there are many other posters who’ll feel the same too.

To be honest, I couldn’t tell you who are BST on here and who’s not. I’m not really interested. I just eat and breath BFC with a passion and enjoy balanced views/debate.

edit: my views may seem naive to some, as I appreciate that politics play a role in all walks of life, I’m just not interested in it
 
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Cardiff category A😂😂😂

Category A games should be ones that excite the fans, this one is far from that.
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Category A because its the first game back in the Championship. Can't see another reason. If this was a Tuesday in February you couldn't see it being A.
 
HetzkeBlaster said:
Plumbs, I think your bottom comments re BST is a tad unfair and doesn’t do our neutral posters like myself any respect.

I’ve posted on here more recently due to personal circumstances, but for a decade or more I mainly just read posts on the old board. In all that time, I’ve never paid any attention to who is who, I take each post by its merit and I’m sure there are many other posters who’ll feel the same too.

To be honest, I couldn’t tell you who are BST on here and who’s not. I’m not really interested. I just eat and breath BFC with a passion and enjoy balanced views/debate.

edit: my views may seem naive to some, as I appreciate that politics play a role in all walks of life, I’m just not interested in it
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That's absolutely fine but I care passionately about people and know many of the Blackpool fans on here and elsewhere,for many their football is their life and a total commitment and I've found the Trusts take that for granted and largely ignore it.

Last night a long term Leeds born fan of 50 years plus told me (after we'd collectively battered our Trust on away allocations) 'they can stick to their social media crap and murals, and we'll stick to following our team home and away'

Made me chuckle but demonstrates what you guys could be up against 👍
 
poolfc said:
A - Unfortunately I don't have that network but you know that for those maybe that do but can't commit the same, there will be people trying to find ways around this. Which is why I mentioned it. And nobody should need to be doing that.

B - If it's something you really want to be at then you are. And when the season starts all this likely goes away and you get on with it. Clubs know this and they all talk to each other, obviously. I just thought that whilst there is debts to try to chase down, they'd be having a sensible reset after covid after they've just spent time talking about how important the fans are. But it doesn't look like that's going to be the case. So yes this has made me think twice about a bigger picture rather than just the next match and yes I'm not going to complain only to then just toe the line on it completely.

C - If a relegation did happen then they would have to drop the tiered pricing structure and go flat rate again, surely? Either way anything that looks like it might put people off doesn't look like a way forward. Not to me anyway but if everyone else is on board with it then whatever really.
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No problem PFC.
This is the 1st time in my life that we have an owner that cares. Sadly, all those that support our club cannot do everything to support (said that already). Some folk, including me need to remember that.
Hope you get the ‘breaks’ to help.
 
All profit and more on top going towards the re build of this great club from top to bottom. Stop bleeding moaning
 
voyeur said:
For a long time family and finance got in the way, then I stopped going altogether when Holloway left, now it's other things I do that mean I can get to some games and not others. I have considered getting a ST this time and getting to as many as possible but another issue is doing it all on my own. My son wants to go occasionally too, so we need 2 seats together. That will now be 56 quid plus travel. I'll do some on my own too. If the average price is £26 then I'd need to do more than 14 home games to make a ST worthwhile. I still might get a ST. I wasn't expecting the 28 category.
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Are there any groups, like
Yorkshire Seasiders, you could join? Sharing travel, ticket loans from someone not going.
I can tell by your posts, you care and desperately want to see the new era in the flesh.
All the best, Voy. Enjoy your posts.
 
Stony Hill said:
Are there any groups, like
Yorkshire Seasiders, you could join? Sharing travel, ticket loans from someone not going.
I can tell by your posts, you care and desperately want to see the new era in the flesh.
All the best, Voy. Enjoy your posts.
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Thanks and don't worry Stony, I will get to games.
 
TomGxPool said:
How many Trusts are you involved with, out of interest? I'm assuming Leeds and Blackpool, but are there others? How do you find the time?
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Sorry but wont be naming anyone specifically but I've directly been in contact with around a dozen , then theres the ones that have ceased over a period of time.
An interesting username -almost like Tom Greatrex who is on the FSA board.
 
Plumbs said:
Sorry but wont be naming anyone specifically but I've directly been in contact with around a dozen , then theres the ones that have ceased over a period of time.
An interesting username -almost like Tom Greatrex who is on the FSA board.
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The "x" was a typo. I suppose I'm stuck with it now. Baffled me for ten minutes until I realised.
 
So for me and my two lads.

£28 for me,
£28 for the eldest who turns 18 in August - with a low paying job, when he's trying to save for uni
£8 for the 12 year old.

£64

Fuel £30

Food £20 minimum.

£104 for two hours entertainment.

They really ought to create an 18-21 year old category which mirrors the difference in Living Wage rates, which is approximately 30% less; which should about £20 really.

Do that for say 15 games and we are looking at £1500; let's no pretend it's cheap creating the next generation of Seasiders.
 
TSSeasider said:
So for me and my two lads.

£28 for me,
£28 for the eldest who turns 18 in August - with a low paying job, when he's trying to save for uni
£8 for the 12 year old.

£64

Fuel £30

Food £20 minimum.

£104 for two hours entertainment.

They really ought to create an 18-21 year old category which mirrors the difference in Living Wage rates, which is approximately 30% less; which should about £20 really.

Do that for say 15 games and we are looking at £1500; let's no pretend it's cheap creating the next generation of Seasiders.
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18 to 24 would be better.
 
TSSeasider said:
So for me and my two lads.

£28 for me,
£28 for the eldest who turns 18 in August - with a low paying job, when he's trying to save for uni
£8 for the 12 year old.

£64

Fuel £30

Food £20 minimum.

£104 for two hours entertainment.

They really ought to create an 18-21 year old category which mirrors the difference in Living Wage rates, which is approximately 30% less; which should about £20 really.

Do that for say 15 games and we are looking at £1500; let's no pretend it's cheap creating the next generation of Seasiders.
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Seems mad to me that people aged over 65 pay less than your 18 year old.
I'm fairly sure that the average pensioner has more disposable income than the average 18 to 21 year old. Definitely should be another price band for this age group, £14 sounds reasonable to me.
 
voyeur said:
I agree with this. I don't think the suits in the club are really in touch. Of course they will say that's how it is, we have to operate in the structure that exists, but it isn't doing other clubs any good. My view is that you do the right thing, you keep prices as affordable as possible to encourage mass participation, and you accept the level that you operate at, which is really what poolfc is saying. I would buy a season ticket and would be happy to pay £359 but won't get to enough games. The match pricing is going to push a lot of folks away. I think that's hard to argue against.
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And so you return to the Oyston dilemma. They refused to play the money game and we remained a lower league club for nearly 30 years.
 
People have been quite vocal about how much we should pay for Jordan Gabriel, some suggesting we are stuck in a time warp as we paid bigger transfer fees over 10 years ago than what florist want for him.

surely if we are to move on as a club ( as Phil says we have small club mentality ) then we have to charge accordingly. Or does everyone still feel it’s the duty of SS as a rich benefactor to stump up the difference so we can all afford to go to the game ?

I remember the season in the prem and I think I paid around £60 for my Chelsea ticket and some very large prices for others also and that was 10 years ago. We either progress as a club together and except that we have to slowly start to charge the going rate for a ticket or we sit in the doldrums paying lesser ticket costs and watching dross players and moaning about it.

I understand the £20s plenty Moto but if the owner doesn’t feel he can sustain the club and take it forward on £20 a ticket then the customer will need to pay the going rate. If you can’t afford it and I know many who can’t then you simply can’t go. There’s lots of things I’d love to do in life that I can’t afford so I don’t do them. It really is that simple.
 
Scaramanga said:
People have been quite vocal about how much we should pay for Jordan Gabriel, some suggesting we are stuck in a time warp as we paid bigger transfer fees over 10 years ago than what florist want for him.

surely if we are to move on as a club ( as Phil says we have small club mentality ) then we have to charge accordingly. Or does everyone still feel it’s the duty of SS as a rich benefactor to stump up the difference so we can all afford to go to the game ?

I remember the season in the prem and I think I paid around £60 for my Chelsea ticket and some very large prices for others also and that was 10 years ago. We either progress as a club together and except that we have to slowly start to charge the going rate for a ticket or we sit in the doldrums paying lesser ticket costs and watching dross players and moaning about it.

I understand the £20s plenty Moto but if the owner doesn’t feel he can sustain the club and take it forward on £20 a ticket then the customer will need to pay the going rate. If you can’t afford it and I know many who can’t then you simply can’t go. There’s lots of things I’d love to do in life that I can’t afford so I don’t do them. It really is that simple.
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I think I'd like @BlackpoolSupportersTrust should allow a vote on whether we remain part of the Twenty's Plenty campaign so that the members get a say.

If we want it to remain, then I think BST have a mandate to question this pricing structure. The away figure is dictated to by the home figure.

That affects a decent proportion of the local population, but admittedly not all.
 
TSSeasider said:
I think I'd like @BlackpoolSupportersTrust should allow a vote on whether we remain part of the Twenty's Plenty campaign so that the members get a say.

If we want it to remain, then I think BST have a mandate to question this pricing structure. The away figure is dictated to by the home figure.

That affects a decent proportion of the local population, but admittedly not all.
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I think "Twenty's Plenty" is a bit of a red herring. That campaign was started nearly a decade ago, and while I think the principle is fine, you have non-league teams charging more than that now.

On the pricing structure it's only three months or so since BST asked fans what they thought. The majority of those who replied said they thought it was reasonable to put ST prices up (or freeze them) and there was that clever graph that suggested people thought £25 was reasonable for a match day ticket in this Division.

I get the point about these being older people with a bit more money, but they are also in the main people who said they were definitely going to go to games as soon as they were allowed to. They are a known quantity. People who MIGHT go under certain conditions aren't.

I want more people to go, but in the meantime it is a business that has to try and stand on its own two feet. At the moment it relies on one man to sustain it.
 
Loco said:
And so you return to the Oyston dilemma. They refused to play the money game and we remained a lower league club for nearly 30 years.
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That's true, but there's a big difference between the Oyston 'approach' and anything decent people might do. They did play their own money game, and Karl made zero effort. Reluctant, lazy, rich bloke's son.

It's a tricky discussion this though cos we are really just discussing whether the club should charge 20, 24 or 28 quid. Which happens to be the 3 category adult prices and we don't know how often each category will be applied, and I think the club will make it up as it goes along, depending on demand. My argument is that the club seems to have adopted a policy of charging as much as possible, rather than seeking to maximise engagement with the people of Blackpool, or even a compromise.

I realise season tickets mean matches cost about £15, if you go to every game, and the club wants real fans to buy them, but Blackpool has a lot of keen supporters who can't or don't attend more than 10 games or so.

Membership is one answer but it still restricts sales. The pricing model seems to be about maximising revenue from away fans and I'm not sure that's the right thing to do. Fill the ground with Blackpool fans as far as possible would be better in my opinion, it's a better long term fan base approach and it's a more community led approach.
 
voyeur said:
That's true, but there's a big difference between the Oyston 'approach' and anything decent people might do. They did play their own money game, and Karl made zero effort. Reluctant, lazy, rich bloke's son.

It's a tricky discussion this though cos we are really just discussing whether the club should charge 20, 24 or 28 quid. Which happens to be the 3 category adult prices and we don't know how often each category will be applied, and I think the club will make it up as it goes along, depending on demand. My argument is that the club seems to have adopted a policy of charging as much as possible, rather than seeking to maximise engagement with the people of Blackpool, or even a compromise.

I realise season tickets mean matches cost about £15, if you go to every game, and the club wants real fans to buy them, but Blackpool has a lot of keen supporters who can't or don't attend more than 10 games or so.

Membership is one answer but it still restricts sales. The pricing model seems to be about maximising revenue from away fans and I'm not sure that's the right thing to do. Fill the ground with Blackpool fans as far as possible would be better in my opinion, it's a better long term fan base approach and it's a more community led approach.
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It is a difficult one, and I’ve made my thoughts known. I do think that perhaps a new age group could be introduced, for those 18-23, most of whom will have less disposable income than pensioners.

Food for thought is that if an adult fan goes say 10 times, they are going to pay around £250 on the mid-point pricing (plus booking fees?). I’ve renewed at £339, and would have done even if I could only attend 10 games. Is is not arguable that paying the extra £90 is sensible, for flexibility, as fans might be able to get to an extra 2 games, and they are front of the queue for limited away tickets?

Many adult non ST holders can afford to buy one, but they choose not to. The problem the club has on pricing for non ST holders, is that these fans will invariably choose the most attractive (Cat A) games, so it would be wrong to incentivise these games at lower prices, including by membership - that would just alienate your ST holders and ultimately damage the financial stability of the club.

Ultimately, fans needs to accept that the club is offering good value in comparison to most other clubs. We cannot expect £20 tickets in the Championship, when non-league clubs charge £17-20.
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
It is a difficult one, and I’ve made my thoughts known. I do think that perhaps a new age group could be introduced, for those 18-23, most of whom will have less disposable income than pensioners.

Food for thought is that if an adult fan goes say 10 times, they are going to pay around £250 on the mid-point pricing (plus booking fees?). I’ve renewed at £339, and would have done even if I could only attend 10 games. Is is not arguable that paying the extra £90 is sensible, for flexibility, as fans might be able to get to an extra 2 games, and they are front of the queue for limited away tickets?

Many adult non ST holders can afford to buy one, but they choose not to. The problem the club has on pricing for non ST holders, is that these fans will invariably choose the most attractive (Cat A) games, so it would be wrong to incentivise these games at lower prices, including by membership - that would just alienate your ST holders and ultimately damage the financial stability of the club.

Ultimately, fans needs to accept that the club is offering good value in comparison to most other clubs. We cannot expect £20 tickets in the Championship, when non-league clubs charge £17-20.
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Yes I noticed that Altrincham are charging 17 quid. So expecting 20 for the championship is totally unrealistic. It's a strange mathematical equation though - clubs like Alty have the problem of covering costs from ticket sales and fund raising. Blackpool has additional income streams from TV and advertising and sponsors. Karl used Sky money to offer cheap season tickets for a while in the hope of keeping the wolves from the Oyston door. Sadler isn't in that position though, the Championship is a financial conundrum for owners, with huge player wages and limited TV money. Another factor is our stadium, with the capacity limited at about 16000 and 5000 of that without facilities in the east. The club obviously wants that full of away fans paying 28 as often as possible. I'd prefer to see it full of Pool fans paying 22 ish. Better long term policy, no?
 
voyeur said:
Yes I noticed that Altrincham are charging 17 quid. So expecting 20 for the championship is totally unrealistic. It's a strange mathematical equation though - clubs like Alty have the problem of covering costs from ticket sales and fund raising. Blackpool has additional income streams from TV and advertising and sponsors. Karl used Sky money to offer cheap season tickets for a while in the hope of keeping the wolves from the Oyston door. Sadler isn't in that position though, the Championship is a financial conundrum for owners, with huge player wages and limited TV money. Another factor is our stadium, with the capacity limited at about 16000 and 5000 of that without facilities in the east. The club obviously wants that full of away fans paying 28 as often as possible. I'd prefer to see it full of Pool fans paying 22 ish. Better long term policy, no?
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First season in the Championship, so there will be an element of risk in any plan. It might be a slightly different plan for our second season there (unless of course we are then in the PL).
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
First season in the Championship, so there will be an element of risk in any plan. It might be a slightly different plan for our second season there (unless of course we are then in the PL).
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The risk is that the club are alienating non season ticket holders with expensive price points

I honestly don't understand why you would think a membership scheme wouldn't be beneficial

It wouldn't effect season ticket holders one bit

A season ticket guarantees a reserved seat at a reduced price for ALL home games

A membership would encourage the floating fan to attend more games
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
The risk is that the club are alienating non season ticket holders with expensive price points

I honestly don't understand why you would think a membership scheme wouldn't be beneficial

It wouldn't effect season ticket holders one bit

A season ticket guarantees a reserved seat at a reduced price for ALL home games

A membership would encourage the floating fan to attend more games
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The hook Phil is getting as many fans to buy a ST, which per game is the lowest price point. Many ST holders don’t get to every match, I don’t, because of holidays or work. If you introduce a membership scheme, ST holders who don’t get to every match will do the maths, and potentially opt to pay per match. That’s bad for the club in terms of financial planning. To think that a membership scheme wouldn’t impact on ST sales is a mistake.

When you boil it down, the argument about matchday tickets is about £3-5 difference. If you don’t get to many games, or let’s say you go to 10, the argument is about £30-50. Over a season I don’t see that’s a biggie.
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
The hook Phil is getting as many fans to buy a ST, which per game is the lowest price point. Many ST holders don’t get to every match, I don’t, because of holidays or work. If you introduce a membership scheme, ST holders who don’t get to every match will do the maths, and potentially opt to pay per match. That’s bad for the club in terms of financial planning. To think that a membership scheme wouldn’t impact on ST sales is a mistake.

When you boil it down, the argument about matchday tickets is about £3-5 difference. If you don’t get to many games, or let’s say you go to 10, the argument is about £30-50. Over a season I don’t see that’s a biggie.
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Absolutely not

The 'hook'

Is to get as many Blackpool fans in the stadium that is possible

Yes a season ticket is great as it gives the club money in the bank and a strong sales forcast

However we haven't sold out of season tickets so to just focus on season ticket holders is nonsensical

We aren't a big enough club to ingore the 'floating' fans or the fans who can't commit to having a season ticket hence why a membership or a games bundle would make sense

I also dont understand all the comparisons with other club it matters not as i don't think any club in our league sells out of games more times than not

If you want to use any comparison when it comes to pricing have a look at the average wage across the UK and in particular the towns and cities in our league

I have and along with Blackburn we have the lowest average income as a town in the whole of the Championship

Bristol for example has an average wage of nearly 10k a year more than Blackpool
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Absolutely not

The 'hook'

Is to get as many Blackpool fans in the stadium that is possible

Yes a season ticket is great as it gives the club money in the bank and a strong sales forcast

However we haven't sold out of season tickets so to just focus on season ticket holders is nonsensical

We aren't a big enough club to ingore the 'floating' fans or the fans who can't commit to having a season ticket hence why a membership or a games bundle would make sense

I also dont understand all the comparisons with other club it matters not as i don't think any club in our league sells out of games more times than not

If you want to use any comparison when it comes to pricing have a look at the average wage across the UK and in particular the towns and cities in our league

I have and along with Blackburn we have the lowest average income as a town in the whole of the Championship

Bristol for example has an average wage of nearly 10k a year more than Blackpool
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Bristol does, it's a much bigger area though including some fancy suburbs, Blackpool literally just covers the town, if you include the Fylde it's about the same income wise.
 
Average attendances in the Championship are surprisingly poor. Which tallies with the prices being charged for match tickets, in my opinion.
 
voyeur said:
Average attendances in the Championship are surprisingly poor. Which tallies with the prices being charged for match tickets, in my opinion.
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Where do you get that from the Championship is the third/fourth best supported league in Europe not bad for a second division.
 
I think memberships are the way to go, hopefully the club will do this as it could boost numbers (although i'm sceptical it will be by more than a few hundred, but even it that's the case then it's worth doing).

On the fact that Blackpool is a poor town with lower than average wage....unfortunately you won't find players accepting lower wages to play for us just because we are a poor town. If we charge very cheap prices (comparatively speaking) because of the town not being affluent, what we're really saying/admitting is that the town of Blackpool can't actually afford to support a championship football club. Which is fine if that's the way we want to go to increase numbers, but if we can't get the revenue in one way or another, we simply won't stay in this league for very long.
 
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What teams sell out?
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Wouldn't have a clue but I wouldn't expect teams to sell out just because they have a big ground every week or have they got to give tickets away to get bums on seats.

A hell of a lot of people watch football is this country when you consider the population and how much other stuff to get on with.
 
BFC_53 said:
I think memberships are the way to go, hopefully the club will do this as it could boost numbers (although i'm sceptical it will be by more than a few hundred, but even it that's the case then it's worth doing).

On the fact that Blackpool is a poor town with lower than average wage....unfortunately you won't find players accepting lower wages to play for us just because we are a poor town. If we charge very cheap prices (comparatively speaking) because of the town not being affluent, what we're really saying/admitting is that the town of Blackpool can't actually afford to support a championship football club. Which is fine if that's the way we want to go to increase numbers, but if we can't get the revenue in one way or another, we simply won't stay in this league for very long.
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Or you could also say the fans wages don't go up just because the team has been promoted

Season ticket prices and match day prices have gone up
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Or you could also say the fans wages don't go up just because the team has been promoted

Season ticket prices and match day prices have gone up
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Agree. Unfortunately demand rises as the team rises up the divisions, so higher prices can be applied, squeezing out the less well off ordinary fans who supported the club lower down. You end up in the Premier League with 60 quid tickets and the regular fans watching on TV. Different world to my child and early adulthood. The money men moved in with their me me me mantra and made a mess for mere mortals like me n thee.
 
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Or you could also say the fans wages don't go up just because the team has been promoted

Season ticket prices and match day prices have gone up
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True, but neither does the wages of fans of any other clubs though, but they still manage to charge more in the championship and still get a lot more fans through the turnstiles - and one of the reasons is like you've said how affluent the town/city is. I'm not really disagreeing with you to be honest, I think the cost of football is far too expensive. All I'm saying is that if we can't charge those prices because it damages crowds to the extent that's suggested, then we won't be able to afford to compete in this division. Unless we have a continual conveyor belt of players to sell on - if for example in a years time we sold Yates for several million, we could use some of that to subsidise ticket prices for a couple of seasons to get people on the hook. That might be an option worth looking into, and with our current policy of developing youngsters it seems like it's more feasible. It'll be interesting to see when we do get that first big incoming transfer fee exactly what the money is spent on. Hopefully not villas in Spain this time!
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
To put our pricing into perspective, in the Championship, my local club Altrincham (still not a professional club) charge £17 match day in the Conference
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poolseasider said:
Where do you get that from the Championship is the third/fourth best supported league in Europe not bad for a second division.
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If you compare on average gates then it isn’t the best supported second level division in Europe, based on the last year pre Covid

2018/19 Championship average gate: roughly 20,000

2018/19 Bundesliga 2 average gate : roughly 24,000 (source dw.com article today)

When Championship players appear for international teams ( eg Wales, Northern Ireland, Ireland) they generally look well short of the necessary standard even against second rate teams.

The standard is a chasm away from the Premier League yet journeymen Championship players command exceptional wages.

There is no reason for that except that the likes of Forest, Derby Stoke etc have convinced themselves and their fans that to play for them you must be special.
 
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The hook Phil is getting as many fans to buy a ST, which per game is the lowest price point. Many ST holders don’t get to every match, I don’t, because of holidays or work. If you introduce a membership scheme, ST holders who don’t get to every match will do the maths, and potentially opt to pay per match. That’s bad for the club in terms of financial planning. To think that a membership scheme wouldn’t impact on ST sales is a mistake.

When you boil it down, the argument about matchday tickets is about £3-5 difference. If you don’t get to many games, or let’s say you go to 10, the argument is about £30-50. Over a season I don’t see that’s a biggie.
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If the hook is getting people to buy season tickets why were none of the following carried out;

1. Season ticket brochure to every household on the Fylde
2. No billboard adverts
3. No adverts on busses/taxis
4. No facebook sponsored posts trying to push sales.

Living in Blackpool you see little evidence that there is a football club here. We have the best owner/board of directors in our history but more needs to be done to build this fanbase.
 
koudo said:
If the hook is getting people to buy season tickets why were none of the following carried out;

1. Season ticket brochure to every household on the Fylde
2. No billboard adverts
3. No adverts on busses/taxis
4. No facebook sponsored posts trying to push sales.

Living in Blackpool you see little evidence that there is a football club here. We have the best owner/board of directors in our history but more needs to be done to build this fanbase.
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Er a pandemic. 🤔
 
koudo said:
If the hook is getting people to buy season tickets why were none of the following carried out;

1. Season ticket brochure to every household on the Fylde
2. No billboard adverts
3. No adverts on busses/taxis
4. No facebook sponsored posts trying to push sales.

Living in Blackpool you see little evidence that there is a football club here. We have the best owner/board of directors in our history but more needs to be done to build this fanbase.
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I’m struggling with this one.

Are you seriously suggesting that residents of Blackpool don’t know there is a team, and when the football season starts?

Do they need giant billboards (to know that the club sells season tickets or how to obtain one).

As for busses and taxis, is that a good use of club funds, particularly in a pandemic.

You’ll find the club makes good use of Twitter.
 
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gjr69 said:
Seems mad to me that people aged over 65 pay less than your 18 year old.
I'm fairly sure that the average pensioner has more disposable income than the average 18 to 21 year old. Definitely should be another price band for this age group, £14 sounds reasonable to me.
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🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 How much water rates, council tax, insurances fuel bills etc. does the average 18-year-old pay?
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
I’m struggling with this one.

Are you seriously suggesting that residents of Blackpool don’t know there is a team, and when the football season starts?

Do they need giant billboards (to know that the club sells season tickets or how to obtain one).

As for busses and taxis, is that a good use of club funds, particularly in a pandemic.

You’ll find the club makes good use of Twitter.
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No I never suggested that, I'm saying with the lack of people wearing shirts and a lack of advertising around the town you'd think there wasn't a club here. Other clubs do it and do it well, the cost of billboards(approx £400) placed at busy junctions, adverts on the busses would be seen by thousands and again wouldn't cost the earth. It drums into people that we are no longer a small club and keeps us fresh in peoples minds? Yes they put a lot of posts on twitter and facebook, their social media/digital footprint has massively improved but they aren't using targeted ads to get people buying ST's which should be a priority. Gone are the days when you put a post up and it ended up on people's feeds, the social media world has changed and you now have to pay to grab people's attention. I have suggested it to them so we'll see if they take it on board, they have brought in someone new to marketing who isn't a football fan which I think is a good strategy to adopt. I just want to see us grow as a club, similar to what Brighton did. Growing up I hated seeing us with 5000 and Burnley and Preston bringing 5000.
 
Norwich City have the right idea. In the city centre they have locals in canary costumes shouting “Let’s be ‘aving you!” and postmen will stop you in the street and ask “ Av you got a light boi?”. 😜
 
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Scaramanga said:
I don’t know if these are fake or not but if they are not then it sort of puts it into perspective.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1421000623206580226
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£380 at Stockport and £375 at Grimsby 🙈

I think £359 is great value for a ST for Championship football.

However, we now have a hardcore base of 7,500-8,000 ST holders which has grown pre-Oyston chaos etc.

As others have said the Club now needs to focus on discounted rates for young adults and a membership scheme to get £5 off a game for those who can’t afford or aren’t going to attend every game. I’ve not paid attention but are we doing that thing where if you get a ST holder to get you a ticket it’s £5 cheaper still?

Many of the 16-25 might not be able to afford a ST or be interested in attending every game but will want to turn out for the bigger games, stick them in the East (North side) as they’ll add to the atmosphere. There’s very few seats left in the North now, for match to match attendees, they’ll want to be amongst it.

Being a ST holder does not make you a better fan than anyone, it just means you think it’s better value, saves the faff of getting tickets and means you have the same seat.

To be fair to the Club, it’s been a mad past 12 months, no fans etc, I get them wanting to maximise income from away fans but at the same time we do need to maximise our home support. It really does make sense to do this.
 
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