255 daily cases yesterday
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Dark_Side_of_the_Lune
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Their prime minister is not known for being an open border politician for starters
TangerineBayern
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They turned their back on the EU vaccine procurement fiasco and bought direct supplies from Russia and China.
seasideone
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Hungary’s borders are pretty much closed - obviously with the odd exception.
www.gov.uk
Entry requirements - Hungary travel advice
Latest FCDO travel advice for Hungary including on entry requirements, safety and security and local laws and customs.
Matesrates
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If you believe that. They’ve had 3,106 deaths per 1m population, as opposed to us at 1875.
Recidivist3
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Does that mean we get through to the next round 
Towerpower99
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The worst in Europe.
Lost Seasider
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Excess deaths seems to imply Bulgaria by some distance with Hungary on about 230/100k ahead of us on about 180/100k
Towerpower99
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Lost Seasider I’ve gone off the Worldometer…Hungry 3106 per mill. Bulgaria 2597. Looks like Matesrates has used the same info.
Adams Kebab
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Put their hand up their skirts and found their bollocks.
Wizaard
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Being macho about an infectious disease probably isn't the best way to combat it.
Not shaving and telling sexist jokes aren't as effective as a vaccine.
Advice to man up is no longer the thing to do in most circumstances.
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Scaramanga
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They don’t look too concerned about potentially catching the virus do they, you have to agree it’s time to let go ffs.
Adams Kebab
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Wizaard
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55% vaccinated compared to our 84%.
Adams Kebab
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Scaramanga
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That just makes the decision to lock down longer even more ridiculous
Wizaard
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Thought you'd like that one.FFS don’t tell me that
Lost Seasider
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Our World in Data is the best site (it's what the media use), they have substantially the same numbers as Worldometer.
Different countries have different criteria for reporting a death as "Covid"; some countries (such as the UK and Hungary) draw the net very widely, others (Italy, Bulgaria) are much less likely to record a death as Covid, so the numbers are not comparable between the countries, this is why the UK is often (wrongly) said to have had the highest death rate/number of deaths in Europe.
The way to compare countries properly is to look at excess deaths.
In the UK we report either 128k or 152k deaths (depending upon measure), but statistically over the pandemic only 119k more people have died than we would expect to have died anyway over the period, which equates to about 180/100k excess deaths.
Hungary is in a similar position, up to 11th April they reported 23,000 Covid deaths but excess mortality was 22,000, a rate of 228/100k, which is bad, but nowhere near as bad as some places (Czech Republic 300/100k), and importantly they've accurately reported them.
In the case of Bulgaria, they've reported 16,000 covid deaths but their calculated excess deaths is 30,000, which gives a truely huge 433/100k, i.e. not far off double that of Hungary, to put it another way if they used the same method for determining a covid death as Hungary their 2,600/1m would be more like 5,200/1m.
Highest absolute death toll in Europe (excluding Russia) is almost certainly Italy, who had 116k excess deaths up to 31 January, and obviously many more since then.
A useful Economist article and source for much of the above: https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker
Towerpower99
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Lost SeasidersI wonder if we will ever know the true figures from around the world…Russia is supposed to be 4 times what has been reported and South American countries are similar…..Its all about saving face and politics.
Thegoalmachine
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Give it a rest wiz ffs
Thegoalmachine
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Humans get ill now and again it’s time to get over it , I only wish the bloke in charge in Hungary was in charge here
Wizaard
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Just what we need. A racist dictator.Humans get ill now and again it’s time to get over it , I only wish the bloke in charge in Hungary was in charge here
Thegoalmachine
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Why is he racist for not wanting all sorts of criminals flooding his country? You lot are are always saying that Boris shoulyhave shut our borders earlier, make your bloody mind up
Wizaard
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Everyone coming in to a country is a criminal? It's exactly that type of bollox that saw Hitler take power.Why is he racist for not wanting all sorts of criminals flooding his country? You lot are are always saying that Boris shoulyhave shut our borders earlier, make your bloody mind up
Thegoalmachine
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Good god lad, the clue is in the title ILLEGAL IMIGRANTS , have you seen them trying to get into Hungary? Illegal if convcited means a criminal offence fella
Thankfully for peace loving hungarians he stops the want to be criminals from entering his country
Wizaard
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Asylum seeking never has been a crime. The illegality comes from stopping them.Good god lad, the clue is in the title ILLEGAL IMIGRANTS , have you seen them trying to get into Hungary? Illegal if convcited means a criminal offence fella
Thegoalmachine
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Scaramanga
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I think some need to check on the numbers illegally coming into the country at the moment. Prity Patel not doing a great job of it. But I suppose some of the usual suspects will be happy about that, or not who knows, when it suits.
Discojohndeary
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Scaramanga. I was following this discussion with interest, having lived in Hungary. I could follow the first two sentences of your contribution clearly enough, but was unable to decipher the last one. Do you mean that some, but not all, of the unidentified "suspects" to whom you refer either will or won't be happy with Patel's performance, and that you may not be fully cognisant of whichever may be true or at what point this may be deemed appropriate?