...until Rhodes comes back. Discuss....
Grimshaw
Gabriel Ekpiteta Casey Coulsen
Norburn
Dembele Morgan Byers
Lavery Joseph
That looks a lot like 4-1-3-2...until Rhodes comes back. Discuss....
Grimshaw
Gabriel Ekpiteta Casey Coulsen
Norburn
Dembele Morgan Byers
Lavery Joseph
You’ve got to be kidding...until Rhodes comes back. Discuss....
Grimshaw
Gabriel Ekpiteta Casey Coulsen
Norburn
Dembele Morgan Byers
Lavery Joseph
Somebody's got to pay for the recent tripe..What's Hubby done to deserve benching?
Or could be moved into a 4-3-3 certainly not 4-4-2 unless Byers is playing on the wing!That looks a lot like 4-1-3-2
Yeah, it defo isn’t a 4-4-2Or could be moved into a 4-3-3 certainly not 4-4-2 unless Byers is playing on the wing!
Please don't ever apply for the Pool job then.Somebody's got to pay for the recent tripe..
Well Critchley and the players are going to have to show big character to come back from last nights result. Definitely not the time for feint hearts.If we’re going to start playing 4-4-2 we might as well just appoint someone off AVFTT as our knew Manager.
We’ve just spent the last two transfer windows trying to recruit to the way Critchley wants to play. Now we’re going to basically adopt some kind of 1960’s throwback type of game???
Seriously Fuck Off with this Mike Bassett bollocks
It’s been an up and down season, but now is not the time for feint hearts.
It’s just one result…We
Well Critchley and the players are going to have to show big character to come back from last nights result. Definitely not the time for feint hearts.
No I agree we have to move on.It’s just one result…
We’ve struggled against those kinds of teams for as long as I can remember….
For me now it’s a case of ending the season as well as we can and getting our plans in place for next season.
Having a keeper who can command his box and bringing in some proper (physically appropriate) defenders would be a start.No I agree we have to move on.
However what surprises me is that the manager and players can’t figure out what’s needed to beat these kind of teams.
Yep, this-----------Grimshaw
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Intentions:
- Simple back four without the complication of transitional play
- 3 solid midfielders to try and win a midfield battle that is proving very difficult away from home
- Wingers playing close to Rhodes
It really isn't. Husband should be left back or on the bench. Centre backs are being asked to overlap and get forward in this transitional bollocks. Midfield being over run etc. Formation and tactics are the root cause.We've debated the formation ad infinitum.
I'm not claiming to be right but IMO it's a red herring.
Not picking on Hubby, but using him as an example, how would he play any differently if we played him as a LB as opposed to a LCB?
Would it make him a better passer of the ball?
Would he be a better tackler?
Players on top of their game can fit into any formation.
The problem is why we don't have players playing at the top of their game consistently
Husband is a great example… He’s a lovely lad and been a great servant to our Club, but he’s physically limited… Lyons is another one… a decent ‘good time’ player, but can’t mix it up when things get a bit physical… .We've debated the formation ad infinitum.
I'm not claiming to be right but IMO it's a red herring.
Not picking on Hubby, but using him as an example, how would he play any differently if we played him as a LB as opposed to a LCB?
Would it make him a better passer of the ball?
Would he be a better tackler?
Players on top of their game can fit into any formation.
The problem is why we don't have players playing at the top of their game consistently
We might have spent two windows trying to recruit to the way Critchley wants to play but we still don’t have a squad to do that so there’s no reason why we couldn’t switch to a 433 or a 442. For Critchley’s formation we still don’t have a ball playing, dominant central defender for the middle of the back 3, we’ve got a weak as piss left wing back, no combination of two midfielders who can dominate a game, no wingers on the bench to replace Dembele and Joseph when they tire and no centre forward who naturally plays that lone forward roleIf we’re going to start playing 4-4-2 we might as well just appoint someone off AVFTT as our New Manager.
We’ve just spent the last two transfer windows trying to recruit to the way Critchley wants to play. Now we’re going to basically adopt some kind of 1960’s throwback type of game???
Seriously Fuck Off with this Mike Bassett bollocks
It’s been an up and down season, but now is not the time for feint hearts.
The recruitment issues aren’t on the Manager…We might have spent two windows trying to recruit to the way Critchley wants to play but we still don’t have a squad to do that so there’s no reason why we couldn’t switch to a 433 or a 442. For Critchley’s formation we still don’t have a ball playing, dominant central defender for the middle of the back 3, we’ve got a weak as piss left wing back, no combination of two midfielders who can dominate a game, no wingers on the bench to replace Dembele and Joseph when they tire and no centre forward who naturally plays that lone forward role
I didn’t mention the manager? The post was about whether we could switch to a different formationThe recruitment issues aren’t on the Manager…
He’s done his best to try and work to meeting the Clubs expand with the resources available to him.
I don't disagree with any of that and have probably said pretty much the same over my many posts on the subject.Husband is a great example… He’s a lovely lad and been a great servant to our Club, but he’s physically limited… Lyons is another one… a decent ‘good time’ player, but can’t mix it up when things get a bit physical… .
We generally lack physicality and struggle to compete across the pitch as a whole. Our keeper is too small and doesn’t command his area (which means we are forced to use others to cover for his limitations). Our other defenders are all physically limited.
It’s not just physical toughness either, we seem to lack mental resilience too for me.
We are too nice…. far too nice..
Lavery has been shocking recently. His only contribution last night was a needless penalty....until Rhodes comes back. Discuss....
Grimshaw
Gabriel Ekpiteta Casey Coulsen
Norburn
Dembele Morgan Byers
Lavery Joseph
That's a nonsense. You can't say Hubby should be a LB and then call him as CB that can't overlap.It really isn't. Husband should be left back or on the bench. Centre backs are being asked to overlap and get forward in this transitional bollocks. Midfield being over run etc. Formation and tactics are the root cause.
I thought Gabriel conceded the penalty.Lavery has been shocking recently. His only contribution last night was a needless penalty.
Either way it hurts my eyes.That's a nonsense. You can't say Hubby should be a LB and then call him as CB that can't overlap.
Husband is a great example… He’s a lovely lad and been a great servant to our Club, but he’s physically limited… Lyons is another one… a decent ‘good time’ player, but can’t mix it up when things get a bit physical… .
We generally lack physicality and struggle to compete across the pitch as a whole. Our keeper is too small and doesn’t command his area (which means we are forced to use others to cover for his limitations). Our other defenders are all physically limited.
It’s not just physical toughness either, we seem to lack mental resilience too for me.
We are too nice…. far too nice..
Agree with that half the sides in this league are full of big lumps like last night and Stevenage we simply don't have an answer against them.Husband is a great example… He’s a lovely lad and been a great servant to our Club, but he’s physically limited… Lyons is another one… a decent ‘good time’ player, but can’t mix it up when things get a bit physical… .
We generally lack physicality and struggle to compete across the pitch as a whole. Our keeper is too small and doesn’t command his area (which means we are forced to use others to cover for his limitations). Our other defenders are all physically limited.
It’s not just physical toughness either, we seem to lack moremental resilience too for me.
We are too nice…. far too nice..
He’s weak as piss though mate in all honesty… He probably weighs around 7 stone… Great character etc… but particularly at L1 you’ve got to be able to compete physically… Too many times we’ve been at such a massive height / physical disadvantage…It’s precisely why McCarthy could do fuck all with them… Trybull, Stewart & Big Gaz probably the only players we had with a bit of proper bite about them…Husband is one of the only players who's actually shows a bit of spunk.
Somebody's got to pay for the recent tripe..
It’s not so much about individuals to me as the balance of the type of individuals being wrong. We alluded to it the other night, but there’s just too many of the softy non-physical types.Last week it was Grimshaw, who's now class again, this week it's Husband, take your bets for the next world's worst ever player folks!
That’s a reflection of the Head coach for me.It’s not so much about individuals to me as the balance of the type of individuals being wrong. We alluded to it the other night, but there’s just too many of the softy non-physical types.
I think you’re right to a certain extent…. I do wonder if that’s where a more grizzled No 2 might come into play… (I.e. Someone with an understanding of the physical demands of Lower League football)That’s a reflection of the Head coach for me.
Soft & weak as piss.
I think there's something in that, he often doesn't seem to fancy players we sign either, as if he's not really involved in the process.I also think though that Critchley has been willing and maybe forced through circumstance, to at least try and work with and develop the players he has at his disposal… I think most of us expected Norburn to offer a bit more steel than has been the case.. reality was that KD probably had more bite in midfield!! I think we need another window to put this right … January was a poor one really
Any direct & physical team who sit back against us at home fully have our number. Critchley should be embarrassed that it happens and he’s not been able to rectify it as as all the losses have been very similar. This is where I’m struggling with it now. He’s learnt zero from it.I think you’re right to a certain extent…. I do wonder if that’s where a more grizzled No 2 might come into play… (I.e. Someone with an understanding of the physical demands of Lower League football)
I also think though that Critchley has been willing and maybe forced through circumstance, to at least try and work with and develop the players he has at his disposal… I think most of us expected Norburn to offer a bit more steel than has been the case.. reality was that KD probably had more bite in midfield!! I think we need another window to put this right … January was a poor one really …
We don’t need to go down the Mick McCarthy Road of course, but at the same time we can’t just collapse and be forced off our game plan as soon as the going gets a bit tough.
The recruitment policy is all over the gaff I think, the club aren’t sure.I think there's something in that, he often doesn't seem to fancy players we sign either, as if he's not really involved in the process.
There’s potentially something in what you say there and arguably the way he left us was a similar case of maybe shying away from controversy and failing to confront a situation head on. It’s difficult to say for sure though without really knowing the real person or how he goes about his business.Any direct & physical team who sit back against us at home fully have our number. Critchley should be embarrassed that it happens and he’s not been able to rectify it as as all the losses have been very similar. This is where I’m struggling with it now. He’s learnt zero from it.
I keep mentioning the time we had a game called off v Burton and you had Jimmy Floyd giving the ref pure grief and NC was just stood there hardly said a word. Chizzy said something last week in commentary about NC saying he was going to stand as far away as he could from Steve Evans as his way of dealing with his touchline antics… both these examples highlight what he’s about. I’m not asking him to be like Joey Barton in the tunnel but have a bit about you and tell him to get to fook or something or lay off the cream cakes. I can’t ever remember him arguing with another manager or coach? Or a man opposition player? He gives the ref a bit of grief the odd time but it’s all too soft and nice.
This is exactly what 9-10 of our starting 11 are like.
Infact, CJ is the perfect example of NC’s personality. He’ll show flashes and got some ability in parts but he’s got the tiniest balls going when push comes to shove and in this League you have to show it.
To put it another way, every away game at Broadwaters on a Sunday morning we’d get beat.
He’s weak as piss though mate in all honesty… He probably weighs around 7 stone… Great character etc… but particularly at L1 you’ve got to be able to compete physically… Too many times we’ve been at such a massive height / physical disadvantage…It’s precisely why McCarthy could do fuck all with them… Trybull, Stewart & Big Gaz probably the only players we had with a bit of proper bite about them…
Spunk is probably the best way to describe most of them at the minute. They’ve got about five minutes max in them and thn that’s their spunk completely shot…. They’re totally disinterested after that.If there's anything I've learnt it's that bite doesn't always equal spunk
That’s the point though… changing the system just to accommodate the players leaves us stuck in this continuous loop of forcing the system to suit the players, rather than finding the players to suit the system… We never actually get to realise our objective of playing football the way we want to play it.I didn’t mention the manager? The post was about whether we could switch to a different formation
Barnsley took the big CH from the cods and my tykes mate says that physicality has been missing.Having a keeper who can command his box and bringing in some proper (physically appropriate) defenders would be a start.
We must have the smallest defence in the league
For me, much of this season's problems lie up top. It's easier to score in this league and yet we've repeatedly failed.Lavery Joseph