A scenario..

Marcusbeansontoast said:
If Huddersfield go down and we stay up (I know..)… that goal line technology failure… you’d be sick as a Huddersfield fan.
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No more so than other decisions that cost points, penalties denied or given against.

We've had a ridiculous red for Carey when we probably would have won that game away at Burnley against 10 men.

We've had tons of decisions go against us that cost points, reds for us when other sides often get f all.
 
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I am struggling to find a combination of results that will result in us staying up even if we win the last two games?
 
QPR and Cardiff lose all their remaining games and we win both.
Any other combination basically means we're down.
 
It’s very possible we go into the last game equal on points with Hudds and one ahead of Reading. Of course we have to beat Wall for that.

And if Cardiff and Sheff U do beat Hudds then their gd worsens too. It’ll come down to the last day.
 
JJpool said:
We've had a ridiculous red for Carey when we probably would have won that game away at Burnley against 10 men.
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I said on the day and haven’t changed my mind since that Carey only got sent off because the ref knew he had to send off their player for the reaction and took the easy way out. It was a bad challenge but if the Burnley player hadn’t reacted Carey would have only got a yellow.
 
Pauls_Boutique said:
I said on the day and haven’t changed my mind since that Carey only got sent off because the ref knew he had to send off their player for the reaction and took the easy way out. It was a bad challenge but if the Burnley player hadn’t reacted Carey would have only got a yellow.
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It was a ridiculous decision, another against us.

If a player commits a yellow card tackle like many have agiant us, we react and lash out at them and get sent off, there's no way their player would be sent off.
 
JJpool said:
No more so than other decisions that cost points, penalties denied or given against.

We've had a ridiculous red for Carey when we probably would have won that game away at Burnley against 10 men.

We've had tons of decisions go against us that cost points, reds for us when other sides often get f all.
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I can understand the bitterness and rancour behind some of what you say, but when this viewpoint is expressed with what I can only describe as monotous regularity, that whole attitude begins to run the risk of sounding a little conspiratorial (i.e. 'We've had tons of decisions go against us...') and as being one fuelled by a sense of paranoia. I don't wish to sound over-philosophical on this particular issue (especially with feelings running so high at the moment - which I fully understand), but is there not a theory which states these things even themselves out over time?
 
tarantula said:
I can understand the bitterness and rancour behind some of what you say, but when this viewpoint is expressed with what I can only describe as monotous regularity, that whole attitude begins to run the risk of sounding a little conspiratorial (i.e. 'We've had tons of decisions go against us...') and as being one fuelled by a sense of paranoia. I don't wish to sound over-philosophical on this particular issue (especially with feelings running so high at the moment - which I fully understand), but is there not a theory which states these things even themselves out over time?
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It is just a theory. The evidence from the end of season review of contentious decisions when we were in the Prem showed a heavy bias towards the ‘big’ clubs and their final league position because of it.
 
tarantula said:
I can understand the bitterness and rancour behind some of what you say, but when this viewpoint is expressed with what I can only describe as monotous regularity, that whole attitude begins to run the risk of sounding a little conspiratorial (i.e. 'We've had tons of decisions go against us...') and as being one fuelled by a sense of paranoia. I don't wish to sound over-philosophical on this particular issue (especially with feelings running so high at the moment - which I fully understand), but is there not a theory which states these things even themselves out over time?
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I don't think big decisions have evened out over time. Of course not every decision goes against us.

But how many straight reds have you seen against us for example? We've had many potential tackles or incidents, often waved away. Has there even been any more for tackles and assaults on us bar Burnley, where for good measure he sent ours off for being assaulted too...

Even with a chance to appeal some decisions, with precedent set in the Premier League with similar var decisions overturned, still the red for Carey stood, or the assault on lavery wasn't overturned.

Maybe our players are not yet masters of the dark arts, commit a foul go down feigning injury to put a slither of doubt in the refs mind maybe, but still.

I think if a proper analysis was done we'd be on the receiving end of more bad than good. A bit like in the prem, where I think they ran through decisions and said we'd have stayed up with correct decisions.
 
tarantula said:
I can understand the bitterness and rancour behind some of what you say, but when this viewpoint is expressed with what I can only describe as monotous regularity, that whole attitude begins to run the risk of sounding a little conspiratorial (i.e. 'We've had tons of decisions go against us...') and as being one fuelled by a sense of paranoia. I don't wish to sound over-philosophical on this particular issue (especially with feelings running so high at the moment - which I fully understand), but is there not a theory which states these things even themselves out over time?
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It's a theory, but it's utter bollocks. It's statistically proved that the bigger teams get decisions go their way.

It certainly doesn't even out.
 
tarantula said:
I can understand the bitterness and rancour behind some of what you say, but when this viewpoint is expressed with what I can only describe as monotous regularity, that whole attitude begins to run the risk of sounding a little conspiratorial (i.e. 'We've had tons of decisions go against us...') and as being one fuelled by a sense of paranoia. I don't wish to sound over-philosophical on this particular issue (especially with feelings running so high at the moment - which I fully understand), but is there not a theory which states these things even themselves out over time?
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Some conspiracy theory advocates point the finger at the EFL getting revenge for our demo at their place
 
I don't suppose that abuse of refs by our officials helps get their benefit of the doubt either.
 
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