An Ipswich fan’s view on Mick McCarthy

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You’ve probably had many people commenting both internally and externally, but thought I’d give my opinion on the appointment of Mick McCarthy as an Ipswich Town supporter. Obviously this is heavily influenced by one spell in his career - my view of Paul Cook will be very different to that of a Wigan fan for example - but given that he spent nearly six years at our club, I felt like offering my two cents.

In summary I think he’s a really good short-term appointment for where you are this season. When he came to Portman Road we were dead last in November and we finished the season in 14th. Even though his stint at Cardiff ended in disaster, he took a team from a relegation battle to the edge of the play offs within a few months. Given that your aim is presumably to finish 21st, he’s as close to a sure fire bet as you’ll get. That’s not to say he can’t sustain it longer term - we overperformed relative to budget in 5 out of his 6 years with us - but the contract length indicates that someone else may be in the hot seat next season.

Tactically, it’s very functional as you’d probably expect - with us he relied on a big target man such as Daryl Murphy or Joe Garner running the channels. However, he also likes to give a free role to one flair player who will be relied upon for moments of individual brilliance even if they tactically aren’t the strongest; Bersant Celina and Tom Lawrence were given this responsibility. In Josh Bowler and Morgan Rogers you’ve probably already recruited that player.

Players are also generally very fond of him. His relationship with the fan base sours after a few years (it did with ourselves and Wolves) but he takes the rap for bad performances and never throws the squad under the bus. His senior players held him in very regard right until the end, even after he’d lost connection with large swathes of the fan base.

However, if he’s given the job long term and builds a squad in his image, the next appointment will need to be evolution rather than revolution. Our relegation was largely down to poor recruitment but it didn’t help that both Paul Hurst and Paul Lambert tried to implement a possession-based style with a squad which had spent the last few years lumping it long towards a target man. It also reinforced how well he had done without any money to spend.

Overall, it seems like a good fit. From an outside perspective, it appears your budget isn’t one which will sustain a promotion push any time soon but when you’re looking for someone to put out fires and work without significant financial resources, he’s the man.

Not sure if any of this was new information but thought I’d offer it up anyway - I’m always interested to hear from other clubs when we appoint an ex-manager of theirs. I’d like to see your boys stay up, felt sorry for you during the Oyston era so I’m glad things are at least a bit better than they were back then.
 
You’ve probably had many people commenting both internally and externally, but thought I’d give my opinion on the appointment of Mick McCarthy as an Ipswich Town supporter. Obviously this is heavily influenced by one spell in his career - my view of Paul Cook will be very different to that of a Wigan fan for example - but given that he spent nearly six years at our club, I felt like offering my two cents.

In summary I think he’s a really good short-term appointment for where you are this season. When he came to Portman Road we were dead last in November and we finished the season in 14th. Even though his stint at Cardiff ended in disaster, he took a team from a relegation battle to the edge of the play offs within a few months. Given that your aim is presumably to finish 21st, he’s as close to a sure fire bet as you’ll get. That’s not to say he can’t sustain it longer term - we overperformed relative to budget in 5 out of his 6 years with us - but the contract length indicates that someone else may be in the hot seat next season.

Tactically, it’s very functional as you’d probably expect - with us he relied on a big target man such as Daryl Murphy or Joe Garner running the channels. However, he also likes to give a free role to one flair player who will be relied upon for moments of individual brilliance even if they tactically aren’t the strongest; Bersant Celina and Tom Lawrence were given this responsibility. In Josh Bowler and Morgan Rogers you’ve probably already recruited that player.

Players are also generally very fond of him. His relationship with the fan base sours after a few years (it did with ourselves and Wolves) but he takes the rap for bad performances and never throws the squad under the bus. His senior players held him in very regard right until the end, even after he’d lost connection with large swathes of the fan base.

However, if he’s given the job long term and builds a squad in his image, the next appointment will need to be evolution rather than revolution. Our relegation was largely down to poor recruitment but it didn’t help that both Paul Hurst and Paul Lambert tried to implement a possession-based style with a squad which had spent the last few years lumping it long towards a target man. It also reinforced how well he had done without any money to spend.

Overall, it seems like a good fit. From an outside perspective, it appears your budget isn’t one which will sustain a promotion push any time soon but when you’re looking for someone to put out fires and work without significant financial resources, he’s the man.

Not sure if any of this was new information but thought I’d offer it up anyway - I’m always interested to hear from other clubs when we appoint an ex-manager of theirs. I’d like to see your boys stay up, felt sorry for you during the Oyston era so I’m glad things are at least a bit better than they were back then.
How refreshing that someone, in particular a supporter of another club, take time out and writes at length ..not only that what you post makes total sense …..just hope you’re right.Best of luck for the rest of the season 🙏👍
 
You’ve probably had many people commenting both internally and externally, but thought I’d give my opinion on the appointment of Mick McCarthy as an Ipswich Town supporter. Obviously this is heavily influenced by one spell in his career - my view of Paul Cook will be very different to that of a Wigan fan for example - but given that he spent nearly six years at our club, I felt like offering my two cents.

In summary I think he’s a really good short-term appointment for where you are this season. When he came to Portman Road we were dead last in November and we finished the season in 14th. Even though his stint at Cardiff ended in disaster, he took a team from a relegation battle to the edge of the play offs within a few months. Given that your aim is presumably to finish 21st, he’s as close to a sure fire bet as you’ll get. That’s not to say he can’t sustain it longer term - we overperformed relative to budget in 5 out of his 6 years with us - but the contract length indicates that someone else may be in the hot seat next season.

Tactically, it’s very functional as you’d probably expect - with us he relied on a big target man such as Daryl Murphy or Joe Garner running the channels. However, he also likes to give a free role to one flair player who will be relied upon for moments of individual brilliance even if they tactically aren’t the strongest; Bersant Celina and Tom Lawrence were given this responsibility. In Josh Bowler and Morgan Rogers you’ve probably already recruited that player.

Players are also generally very fond of him. His relationship with the fan base sours after a few years (it did with ourselves and Wolves) but he takes the rap for bad performances and never throws the squad under the bus. His senior players held him in very regard right until the end, even after he’d lost connection with large swathes of the fan base.

However, if he’s given the job long term and builds a squad in his image, the next appointment will need to be evolution rather than revolution. Our relegation was largely down to poor recruitment but it didn’t help that both Paul Hurst and Paul Lambert tried to implement a possession-based style with a squad which had spent the last few years lumping it long towards a target man. It also reinforced how well he had done without any money to spend.

Overall, it seems like a good fit. From an outside perspective, it appears your budget isn’t one which will sustain a promotion push any time soon but when you’re looking for someone to put out fires and work without significant financial resources, he’s the man.

Not sure if any of this was new information but thought I’d offer it up anyway - I’m always interested to hear from other clubs when we appoint an ex-manager of theirs. I’d like to see your boys stay up, felt sorry for you during the Oyston era so I’m glad things are at least a bit better than they were back then.
Post of the year, and we’re still in January!
 
You’ve probably had many people commenting both internally and externally, but thought I’d give my opinion on the appointment of Mick McCarthy as an Ipswich Town supporter. Obviously this is heavily influenced by one spell in his career - my view of Paul Cook will be very different to that of a Wigan fan for example - but given that he spent nearly six years at our club, I felt like offering my two cents.

In summary I think he’s a really good short-term appointment for where you are this season. When he came to Portman Road we were dead last in November and we finished the season in 14th. Even though his stint at Cardiff ended in disaster, he took a team from a relegation battle to the edge of the play offs within a few months. Given that your aim is presumably to finish 21st, he’s as close to a sure fire bet as you’ll get. That’s not to say he can’t sustain it longer term - we overperformed relative to budget in 5 out of his 6 years with us - but the contract length indicates that someone else may be in the hot seat next season.

Tactically, it’s very functional as you’d probably expect - with us he relied on a big target man such as Daryl Murphy or Joe Garner running the channels. However, he also likes to give a free role to one flair player who will be relied upon for moments of individual brilliance even if they tactically aren’t the strongest; Bersant Celina and Tom Lawrence were given this responsibility. In Josh Bowler and Morgan Rogers you’ve probably already recruited that player.

Players are also generally very fond of him. His relationship with the fan base sours after a few years (it did with ourselves and Wolves) but he takes the rap for bad performances and never throws the squad under the bus. His senior players held him in very regard right until the end, even after he’d lost connection with large swathes of the fan base.

However, if he’s given the job long term and builds a squad in his image, the next appointment will need to be evolution rather than revolution. Our relegation was largely down to poor recruitment but it didn’t help that both Paul Hurst and Paul Lambert tried to implement a possession-based style with a squad which had spent the last few years lumping it long towards a target man. It also reinforced how well he had done without any money to spend.

Overall, it seems like a good fit. From an outside perspective, it appears your budget isn’t one which will sustain a promotion push any time soon but when you’re looking for someone to put out fires and work without significant financial resources, he’s the man.

Not sure if any of this was new information but thought I’d offer it up anyway - I’m always interested to hear from other clubs when we appoint an ex-manager of theirs. I’d like to see your boys stay up, felt sorry for you during the Oyston era so I’m glad things are at least a bit better than they were back then.
Many thanks for that insight, good luck getting out of that horrible League 1
 
Worry is we are no good when playing long we don't have the players for it .When we do that up to madine we look at our worst .You need players that can hold up the ball or win it all we do is give away possession and look as bad as I have seen us for a long time .
 
You’ve probably had many people commenting both internally and externally, but thought I’d give my opinion on the appointment of Mick McCarthy as an Ipswich Town supporter. Obviously this is heavily influenced by one spell in his career - my view of Paul Cook will be very different to that of a Wigan fan for example - but given that he spent nearly six years at our club, I felt like offering my two cents.

In summary I think he’s a really good short-term appointment for where you are this season. When he came to Portman Road we were dead last in November and we finished the season in 14th. Even though his stint at Cardiff ended in disaster, he took a team from a relegation battle to the edge of the play offs within a few months. Given that your aim is presumably to finish 21st, he’s as close to a sure fire bet as you’ll get. That’s not to say he can’t sustain it longer term - we overperformed relative to budget in 5 out of his 6 years with us - but the contract length indicates that someone else may be in the hot seat next season.

Tactically, it’s very functional as you’d probably expect - with us he relied on a big target man such as Daryl Murphy or Joe Garner running the channels. However, he also likes to give a free role to one flair player who will be relied upon for moments of individual brilliance even if they tactically aren’t the strongest; Bersant Celina and Tom Lawrence were given this responsibility. In Josh Bowler and Morgan Rogers you’ve probably already recruited that player.

Players are also generally very fond of him. His relationship with the fan base sours after a few years (it did with ourselves and Wolves) but he takes the rap for bad performances and never throws the squad under the bus. His senior players held him in very regard right until the end, even after he’d lost connection with large swathes of the fan base.

However, if he’s given the job long term and builds a squad in his image, the next appointment will need to be evolution rather than revolution. Our relegation was largely down to poor recruitment but it didn’t help that both Paul Hurst and Paul Lambert tried to implement a possession-based style with a squad which had spent the last few years lumping it long towards a target man. It also reinforced how well he had done without any money to spend.

Overall, it seems like a good fit. From an outside perspective, it appears your budget isn’t one which will sustain a promotion push any time soon but when you’re looking for someone to put out fires and work without significant financial resources, he’s the man.

Not sure if any of this was new information but thought I’d offer it up anyway - I’m always interested to hear from other clubs when we appoint an ex-manager of theirs. I’d like to see your boys stay up, felt sorry for you during the Oyston era so I’m glad things are at least a bit better than they were back then.
Many thanks for taking the time to post this. I think your comment that we've gone for probably the most likely person to keep us up is spot on. That losing streak at Cardiff is blotting some peoples view but aside from that, his record in the championship is largely excellent.
 
Might be wrong but that looks like WPC's latest reincarnation having been defeated over Appleton.

You’ve probably had many people commenting both internally and externally, but thought I’d give my opinion on the appointment of Mick McCarthy as an Ipswich Town supporter. Obviously this is heavily influenced by one spell in his career - my view of Paul Cook will be very different to that of a Wigan fan for example - but given that he spent nearly six years at our club, I felt like offering my two cents.

In summary I think he’s a really good short-term appointment for where you are this season. When he came to Portman Road we were dead last in November and we finished the season in 14th. Even though his stint at Cardiff ended in disaster, he took a team from a relegation battle to the edge of the play offs within a few months. Given that your aim is presumably to finish 21st, he’s as close to a sure fire bet as you’ll get. That’s not to say he can’t sustain it longer term - we overperformed relative to budget in 5 out of his 6 years with us - but the contract length indicates that someone else may be in the hot seat next season.

Tactically, it’s very functional as you’d probably expect - with us he relied on a big target man such as Daryl Murphy or Joe Garner running the channels. However, he also likes to give a free role to one flair player who will be relied upon for moments of individual brilliance even if they tactically aren’t the strongest; Bersant Celina and Tom Lawrence were given this responsibility. In Josh Bowler and Morgan Rogers you’ve probably already recruited that player.

Players are also generally very fond of him. His relationship with the fan base sours after a few years (it did with ourselves and Wolves) but he takes the rap for bad performances and never throws the squad under the bus. His senior players held him in very regard right until the end, even after he’d lost connection with large swathes of the fan base.

However, if he’s given the job long term and builds a squad in his image, the next appointment will need to be evolution rather than revolution. Our relegation was largely down to poor recruitment but it didn’t help that both Paul Hurst and Paul Lambert tried to implement a possession-based style with a squad which had spent the last few years lumping it long towards a target man. It also reinforced how well he had done without any money to spend.

Overall, it seems like a good fit. From an outside perspective, it appears your budget isn’t one which will sustain a promotion push any time soon but when you’re looking for someone to put out fires and work without significant financial resources, he’s the man.

Not sure if any of this was new information but thought I’d offer it up anyway - I’m always interested to hear from other clubs when we appoint an ex-manager of theirs. I’d like to see your boys stay up, felt sorry for you during the Oyston era so I’m glad things are at least a bit better than they were back then.
Thanks for the contribution. We're at the very start of the cycle you were. Went to your gaff when we got beat with a 1-0 with a Chopra goal in 2014-ish. Was a nothing match but you got the points. And then you kept getting the points. We're desperate for that right now.

Hopefully it works and he's still got the knack and football hasn't passed him by. And hopefully then everyone knows the right time to leave a party.
 
Very nice of the fella to come on here and give his view on the new Gaffer, how anyone would not find that pleasing his beyond me.

Anyway coming back to to O/P, thanks a lot pal for giving us some valuable insight on this and it appears to me that Gary Madine is a solid bet to be a starter for the rest of the season as MM likes his big target man to work off.
 
Worry is we are no good when playing long we don't have the players for it .When we do that up to madine we look at our worst .You need players that can hold up the ball or win it all we do is give away possession and look as bad as I have seen us for a long time .
its down to coaching madine wins plenty of the long balls in the air we just dont have anyone close enough to him to win the second ball
 
Thanks everyone for the kind comments. I’d love to agree that I selflessly took time out of my day to make the contribution, but I enjoyed it much more than my trip to the Kassam to see a drab defeat in thick fog. I’ll answer a few of the questions on the same post rather than replying individually.

I’d agree that Madine will play a big role, but interesting to note the concerns that the squad doesn’t have the ability to play long ball. We did have a brief period at the beginning of 2015/16 when we signed Ainsley Maitland-Niles and Ryan Fraser on loan, which made Mick confident enough to implement a more attractive brand of football. We started off really well but then lost twice in early September including a 5-1 hammering at Reading - Mick panicked and reverted to type after that. So it’s possible that he may be a bit more adventurous with the players you have, but your league position suggests he’ll probably follow a similar blueprint to his time with us.

As for Garbutt, I liked him at Town. Defensively he was weak but his set piece delivery was arguably the best in League One during that season. He’d fit quite well into our current set up in the LWB role.

This genuinely wasn’t my intention before the post but after the positive response I thought I’d share the link to my page on the 72, where I’ve just started contributing as the Ipswich Town writer. The pieces are club-specific so it may not be of interest to Blackpool fans but I’ve asked the editor if I can write a bit about Mick this week so if that gets approved it will be up there soon.


Happy to answer any more questions about Mick’s time with Town of course.
 
Thanks everyone for the kind comments. I’d love to agree that I selflessly took time out of my day to make the contribution, but I enjoyed it much more than my trip to the Kassam to see a drab defeat in thick fog. I’ll answer a few of the questions on the same post rather than replying individually.

I’d agree that Madine will play a big role, but interesting to note the concerns that the squad doesn’t have the ability to play long ball. We did have a brief period at the beginning of 2015/16 when we signed Ainsley Maitland-Niles and Ryan Fraser on loan, which made Mick confident enough to implement a more attractive brand of football. We started off really well but then lost twice in early September including a 5-1 hammering at Reading - Mick panicked and reverted to type after that. So it’s possible that he may be a bit more adventurous with the players you have, but your league position suggests he’ll probably follow a similar blueprint to his time with us.

As for Garbutt, I liked him at Town. Defensively he was weak but his set piece delivery was arguably the best in League One during that season. He’d fit quite well into our current set up in the LWB role.

This genuinely wasn’t my intention before the post but after the positive response I thought I’d share the link to my page on the 72, where I’ve just started contributing as the Ipswich Town writer. The pieces are club-specific so it may not be of interest to Blackpool fans but I’ve asked the editor if I can write a bit about Mick this week so if that gets approved it will be up there soon.


Happy to answer any more questions about Mick’s time with Town of course.
Thanks again for these additional comments. I'm not sure if Mick was still there when you had Callum Connelly on loan ; I believe he
played in mid field for you and wondered how you rated him . He has had to fill in as RB with us but may now come into consideration in
midfield or CB. Cheers.
 
Thanks again for these additional comments. I'm not sure if Mick was still there when you had Callum Connelly on loan ; I believe he
played in mid field for you and wondered how you rated him . He has had to fill in as RB with us but may now come into consideration in
midfield or CB. Cheers.

We tried to sign Connolly last summer before he eventually moved to Blackpool. I really liked him during his loan spell, he was initially signed as a defender but worked well as an energetic midfielder.

He looked like he had the attributes to play higher up which isn’t a surprise for a player coming from a Premier League academy, but I wonder if his versatility worked against him in that respect. Between spells with Town, Fleetwood, Wigan and Blackpool he’s played anywhere from midfield, full back and centre back so he never got a solid run to establish himself in one position.
 
Thanks mate appreciate the post. I don’t think much of him but he does have form for rescuing clubs. If he can keep us up he will have done his job. I don’t see him as a long term solution.
 
You’ve probably had many people commenting both internally and externally, but thought I’d give my opinion on the appointment of Mick McCarthy as an Ipswich Town supporter. Obviously this is heavily influenced by one spell in his career - my view of Paul Cook will be very different to that of a Wigan fan for example - but given that he spent nearly six years at our club, I felt like offering my two cents.

In summary I think he’s a really good short-term appointment for where you are this season. When he came to Portman Road we were dead last in November and we finished the season in 14th. Even though his stint at Cardiff ended in disaster, he took a team from a relegation battle to the edge of the play offs within a few months. Given that your aim is presumably to finish 21st, he’s as close to a sure fire bet as you’ll get. That’s not to say he can’t sustain it longer term - we overperformed relative to budget in 5 out of his 6 years with us - but the contract length indicates that someone else may be in the hot seat next season.

Tactically, it’s very functional as you’d probably expect - with us he relied on a big target man such as Daryl Murphy or Joe Garner running the channels. However, he also likes to give a free role to one flair player who will be relied upon for moments of individual brilliance even if they tactically aren’t the strongest; Bersant Celina and Tom Lawrence were given this responsibility. In Josh Bowler and Morgan Rogers you’ve probably already recruited that player.

Players are also generally very fond of him. His relationship with the fan base sours after a few years (it did with ourselves and Wolves) but he takes the rap for bad performances and never throws the squad under the bus. His senior players held him in very regard right until the end, even after he’d lost connection with large swathes of the fan base.

However, if he’s given the job long term and builds a squad in his image, the next appointment will need to be evolution rather than revolution. Our relegation was largely down to poor recruitment but it didn’t help that both Paul Hurst and Paul Lambert tried to implement a possession-based style with a squad which had spent the last few years lumping it long towards a target man. It also reinforced how well he had done without any money to spend.

Overall, it seems like a good fit. From an outside perspective, it appears your budget isn’t one which will sustain a promotion push any time soon but when you’re looking for someone to put out fires and work without significant financial resources, he’s the man.

Not sure if any of this was new information but thought I’d offer it up anyway - I’m always interested to hear from other clubs when we appoint an ex-manager of theirs. I’d like to see your boys stay up, felt sorry for you during the Oyston era so I’m glad things are at least a bit better than they were back then.
Really appreciate this, pretty much what I feel. There is no guarantees but in the position we find ourselves, it feels like a smart move. As for the long term, a lot of that will depend on the next 4 months, hopefully we can think about that in the summer, as a Championship club. 👍🏼
 
ITFC, thanks for that.
A very good summary of MMs potential as a temp boss for us.
Who knows? It might be a longer term here.
Watched a short cutting of an interview with MMc, he came across really well.
At first I doubted the appointment, but happier now.
 
It will be interesting to see if he goes purely down the long ball route and Madine. In his 12 month out of the game, he may well have had a "Holloway" epiphany and had a re-think on his tactics. I hope so because Madine has been easily nullified.
 
Thanks everyone for the kind comments. I’d love to agree that I selflessly took time out of my day to make the contribution, but I enjoyed it much more than my trip to the Kassam to see a drab defeat in thick fog. I’ll answer a few of the questions on the same post rather than replying individually.

I’d agree that Madine will play a big role, but interesting to note the concerns that the squad doesn’t have the ability to play long ball. We did have a brief period at the beginning of 2015/16 when we signed Ainsley Maitland-Niles and Ryan Fraser on loan, which made Mick confident enough to implement a more attractive brand of football. We started off really well but then lost twice in early September including a 5-1 hammering at Reading - Mick panicked and reverted to type after that. So it’s possible that he may be a bit more adventurous with the players you have, but your league position suggests he’ll probably follow a similar blueprint to his time with us.

As for Garbutt, I liked him at Town. Defensively he was weak but his set piece delivery was arguably the best in League One during that season. He’d fit quite well into our current set up in the LWB role.

This genuinely wasn’t my intention before the post but after the positive response I thought I’d share the link to my page on the 72, where I’ve just started contributing as the Ipswich Town writer. The pieces are club-specific so it may not be of interest to Blackpool fans but I’ve asked the editor if I can write a bit about Mick this week so if that gets approved it will be up there soon.


Happy to answer any more questions about Mick’s time with Town of course.
He's getting bums on seats before he starts. Correction- He would have done but Jack Frost had other ideas. FA cup awaits.
 
ITFC, thanks for that.
A very good summary of MMs potential as a temp boss for us.
Who knows? It might be a longer term here.
Watched a short cutting of an interview with MMc, he came across really well.
At first I doubted th
Fans hailed Appy's first interview in June.

That worked out well
 
Worry is we are no good when playing long we don't have the players for it .When we do that up to madine we look at our worst .You need players that can hold up the ball or win it all we do is give away possession and look as bad as I have seen us for a long time .
All we’ve done so far this season is pass it a few times at the back then lump it long to no one. But I’m sure we will improve under MM
 
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