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Michael Appleton - 10 years on

Conor, of Seasiders Podcast and utmp fame, takes a look at our new manager, a familiar face, and considers what we can expect for Round Two


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Michael Appleton - 10 years on

Conor, of Seasiders Podcast and utmp fame, takes a look at our new manager, a familiar face, and considers what we can expect for Round Two


#utmp
Decent analysis imo
 
You don’t work with Karl, you work for Karl and that was his big mistake…thinking football was important at a football club and that working with a chairman is normal at every club.

He will get a fair crack of the whip from the vast majority of pool fans. He needs to do better than last time definitely
 
Good analysis. One (of many) concerns is that most of our strikers, in particular Lavery and Yates, are at pressing specialists. Sit back and let the other team play and you bling their effectiveness. Likewise Dougall and Stewart in midfield, to an extent.
 
Good analysis, thank you.
It's quite telling that despite the negativity against Appleton, which we know the BFC Board was aware of, they have gone ahead and appointed Appleton.
I'm sure that most of the details in the report that UTMP has compiled (and probably a lot more) will have been provided to the BFC Board by the Club analyst and no doubt the best bits by Appy himself.
So his appointment will have been thoroughly researched and there must have been a high degree of confidence and certainty that they were making the right decision which was being made in the full knowledge of what the initial knee jerk reaction would be from the fans.
24hrs on, a statement from Simon Sadler and an interview with Appy and that initial negative reaction is subsiding already.
 
Good analysis, thank you.
It's quite telling that despite the negativity against Appleton, which we know the BFC Board was aware of, they have gone ahead and appointed Appleton.
I'm sure that most of the details in the report that UTMP has compiled (and probably a lot more) will have been provided to the BFC Board by the Club analyst and no doubt the best bits by Appy himself.
So his appointment will have been thoroughly researched and there must have been a high degree of confidence and certainty that they were making the right decision which was being made in the full knowledge of what the initial knee jerk reaction would be from the fans.
24hrs on, a statement from Simon Sadler and an interview with Appy and that initial negative reaction is subsiding already.
We do not currently have an analyst. It’s been advertised.
 
Great analysis and highlights why the board think he might be a good fit.

Red flags for me though were the stats about how Lincoln play. We talk about ‘attractive football’ I don’t think our football was that attractive under Critch. The fact Appleton plays the same way, but no pressing, when pressing was one of the more exciting elements of our game, is a concern to me.

Similarly the stat about Lincoln having the lowest passing stats in the final third. We weren’t great at this with Critch and it made us an incredibly frustrating team to watch at times. I was hoping this would improve under a new manager, not continue.

My worry is we’re in for more of the same, and last season it was ok because we were surviving but there were so many games that we were comfortably on top of, only to lose because we weren’t great in the final third.

Essentially I don’t want the games to turn into us passing the ball around a lot, not doing anything with it, then just sitting back and letting the opposition smack shots at us when we’re off the ball. Our pressing last season was one of the best bits of our game and made watching us off the ball enjoyable at least. Lose that and the only thing that is actually attractive about our play is tricky wingers hoping to get a lucky break.
 
there are a couple of things i would bring up. Firstly Lincoln played reasonably attractive football, when they were good they were very good, but when they weren't at 100% they were liable to get well beaten. Last year they had the 6th worse goals scored in the division, which is despite having some of the best possession stats. In those respects Lincoln are similar to us, when we were good we were very very good, but there were times when we just couldnt put anything together, but still maintained reasonable possession stats. In that light it worries me that MA will come in and do more of the same, we'll have days when we are brilliant and others when we just dont show up, and as we saw last year when the players were low on confidence the team suffered.

The squad we have needs tweaking rather than an overhaul, and it worried me yesterday that MA harped on about re-inforcements - a lot! the squad whilst not having the individual star players that others in the Championship have has a depth where their are always options, but - and i think this is a big but, i dont think Critchley ever really worked out what his best team was nor how to play, apart from demanding possession. I think this might be the typical FA coaching method though - possession at all costs lots and lots of defensive sideways passing which i think is always problematic particularly against a high press, and this was the dichotomy of Critches style lots of defensive passing until there is pressure and then the big hoof to the big man up front, which seems to be the antithesis of possession. In many respects i think we and many other teams in the champs, L1 and L2 and quite a few in the PL as well as England often play possession routines, drilled standards (Why England do it I dont know because they have the players, who can play possession football), and as i think florist showed us it is realtively easy to attack against, mistakes will be made and the more time that the ball is in the defensive third the more likely those errors are going to be very costly.

Our goalscoring last year was too low, and lincoln suffered the same. We missed way too many good opportunities, I think MA needs to fix that and find the right combination up front, with Lavery, Yates, (and what ive seen so far) Beesley, that is three very mobile attackers, who can all score goals. Madine is the blunt instrument who is effective but as much as I like Madine and the way he plays is definitely a Plan B. Midfield King Kenny is for me the lynch pin, but playing a second even more defensive player alongside him is usually detrimental to the whole team. It makes us overly defensive and even when we do break we rarely get more than one player in the box. Again i think that was the innate caution of Critch in his first season in the Championship. MA hasnt managed in the champs either in the last decade, and even though i dont think the standard in actual play is that much different form L1, the speed of thought of the top players and their ability to play on the hoof rather than following set patterns might be a thing MA has to bring himself up to speed with, and quickly adapt.

im surprised from the pod cast last night that certain people think fourth bottom will be a successful season, i thought top ten was achievable last season, and if it hadn't been for the drop off in form in the last few games that was very much on the cards. i would expect the management want to be at least flirting with the play-offs, although again we might be looking at a transition season, I dont think we should be. the squad know one another, although under NC the chopping and changing might have been an issue, and we sometimes saw it with a lack of coherance between players on match day.

If i was SS, my instructions would be to build on the existing qualities, add a couple of additional resources, and fix the issues we had last year - not enough goals, too many defensive errors (caused principally by defensive sideways posession). Keep some consistency going forward.

Im hoping that MA is the kind of conservative left field appointment that might buck some of the current trends
 
Good analysis, thank you.
It's quite telling that despite the negativity against Appleton, which we know the BFC Board was aware of, they have gone ahead and appointed Appleton.
I'm sure that most of the details in the report that UTMP has compiled (and probably a lot more) will have been provided to the BFC Board by the Club analyst and no doubt the best bits by Appy himself.
So his appointment will have been thoroughly researched and there must have been a high degree of confidence and certainty that they were making the right decision which was being made in the full knowledge of what the initial knee jerk reaction would be from the fans.
24hrs on, a statement from Simon Sadler and an interview with Appy and that initial negative reaction is subsiding already.
Nah scrap all the data, actual facts and reality.

Let's hate him for no reason like a few idiots, some on here or the idiot on the balcony who boo'd him.

Some people really are thick.

🙄
 
Great analysis and highlights why the board think he might be a good fit.

Red flags for me though were the stats about how Lincoln play. We talk about ‘attractive football’ I don’t think our football was that attractive under Critch. The fact Appleton plays the same way, but no pressing, when pressing was one of the more exciting elements of our game, is a concern to me.

Similarly the stat about Lincoln having the lowest passing stats in the final third. We weren’t great at this with Critch and it made us an incredibly frustrating team to watch at times. I was hoping this would improve under a new manager, not continue.

My worry is we’re in for more of the same, and last season it was ok because we were surviving but there were so many games that we were comfortably on top of, only to lose because we weren’t great in the final third.

Essentially I don’t want the games to turn into us passing the ball around a lot, not doing anything with it, then just sitting back and letting the opposition smack shots at us when we’re off the ball. Our pressing last season was one of the best bits of our game and made watching us off the ball enjoyable at least. Lose that and the only thing that is actually attractive about our play is tricky wingers hoping to get a lucky break.
Yeah pressing was a key part of our success, be interesting to see if he adapts with players who can do it and are used to it.

Or if it'll be a balance, meaning more energy saved for attacking maybe, less injuries.

If we have more of the ball, when you're already up you should press for the first 10 seconds or whatever when you lose it, as often you can win it back, but if not you drop off. Evatt does this based on pep, which is why I wanted him.

Kenny is a presser, so I dont see how he can do anything but put people under pressure.

I think and hope we'll see us do it but maybe not over do it.
 
there are a couple of things i would bring up. Firstly Lincoln played reasonably attractive football, when they were good they were very good, but when they weren't at 100% they were liable to get well beaten. Last year they had the 6th worse goals scored in the division, which is despite having some of the best possession stats. In those respects Lincoln are similar to us, when we were good we were very very good, but there were times when we just couldnt put anything together, but still maintained reasonable possession stats. In that light it worries me that MA will come in and do more of the same, we'll have days when we are brilliant and others when we just dont show up, and as we saw last year when the players were low on confidence the team suffered.

The squad we have needs tweaking rather than an overhaul, and it worried me yesterday that MA harped on about re-inforcements - a lot! the squad whilst not having the individual star players that others in the Championship have has a depth where their are always options, but - and i think this is a big but, i dont think Critchley ever really worked out what his best team was nor how to play, apart from demanding possession. I think this might be the typical FA coaching method though - possession at all costs lots and lots of defensive sideways passing which i think is always problematic particularly against a high press, and this was the dichotomy of Critches style lots of defensive passing until there is pressure and then the big hoof to the big man up front, which seems to be the antithesis of possession. In many respects i think we and many other teams in the champs, L1 and L2 and quite a few in the PL as well as England often play possession routines, drilled standards (Why England do it I dont know because they have the players, who can play possession football), and as i think florist showed us it is realtively easy to attack against, mistakes will be made and the more time that the ball is in the defensive third the more likely those errors are going to be very costly.

Our goalscoring last year was too low, and lincoln suffered the same. We missed way too many good opportunities, I think MA needs to fix that and find the right combination up front, with Lavery, Yates, (and what ive seen so far) Beesley, that is three very mobile attackers, who can all score goals. Madine is the blunt instrument who is effective but as much as I like Madine and the way he plays is definitely a Plan B. Midfield King Kenny is for me the lynch pin, but playing a second even more defensive player alongside him is usually detrimental to the whole team. It makes us overly defensive and even when we do break we rarely get more than one player in the box. Again i think that was the innate caution of Critch in his first season in the Championship. MA hasnt managed in the champs either in the last decade, and even though i dont think the standard in actual play is that much different form L1, the speed of thought of the top players and their ability to play on the hoof rather than following set patterns might be a thing MA has to bring himself up to speed with, and quickly adapt.

im surprised from the pod cast last night that certain people think fourth bottom will be a successful season, i thought top ten was achievable last season, and if it hadn't been for the drop off in form in the last few games that was very much on the cards. i would expect the management want to be at least flirting with the play-offs, although again we might be looking at a transition season, I dont think we should be. the squad know one another, although under NC the chopping and changing might have been an issue, and we sometimes saw it with a lack of coherance between players on match day.

If i was SS, my instructions would be to build on the existing qualities, add a couple of additional resources, and fix the issues we had last year - not enough goals, too many defensive errors (caused principally by defensive sideways posession). Keep some consistency going forward.

Im hoping that MA is the kind of conservative left field appointment that might buck some of the current trends
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there are a couple of things i would bring up. Firstly Lincoln played reasonably attractive football, when they were good they were very good, but when they weren't at 100% they were liable to get well beaten. Last year they had the 6th worse goals scored in the division, which is despite having some of the best possession stats. In those respects Lincoln are similar to us, when we were good we were very very good, but there were times when we just couldnt put anything together, but still maintained reasonable possession stats. In that light it worries me that MA will come in and do more of the same, we'll have days when we are brilliant and others when we just dont show up, and as we saw last year when the players were low on confidence the team suffered.

The squad we have needs tweaking rather than an overhaul, and it worried me yesterday that MA harped on about re-inforcements - a lot! the squad whilst not having the individual star players that others in the Championship have has a depth where their are always options, but - and i think this is a big but, i dont think Critchley ever really worked out what his best team was nor how to play, apart from demanding possession. I think this might be the typical FA coaching method though - possession at all costs lots and lots of defensive sideways passing which i think is always problematic particularly against a high press, and this was the dichotomy of Critches style lots of defensive passing until there is pressure and then the big hoof to the big man up front, which seems to be the antithesis of possession. In many respects i think we and many other teams in the champs, L1 and L2 and quite a few in the PL as well as England often play possession routines, drilled standards (Why England do it I dont know because they have the players, who can play possession football), and as i think florist showed us it is realtively easy to attack against, mistakes will be made and the more time that the ball is in the defensive third the more likely those errors are going to be very costly.

Our goalscoring last year was too low, and lincoln suffered the same. We missed way too many good opportunities, I think MA needs to fix that and find the right combination up front, with Lavery, Yates, (and what ive seen so far) Beesley, that is three very mobile attackers, who can all score goals. Madine is the blunt instrument who is effective but as much as I like Madine and the way he plays is definitely a Plan B. Midfield King Kenny is for me the lynch pin, but playing a second even more defensive player alongside him is usually detrimental to the whole team. It makes us overly defensive and even when we do break we rarely get more than one player in the box. Again i think that was the innate caution of Critch in his first season in the Championship. MA hasnt managed in the champs either in the last decade, and even though i dont think the standard in actual play is that much different form L1, the speed of thought of the top players and their ability to play on the hoof rather than following set patterns might be a thing MA has to bring himself up to speed with, and quickly adapt.

im surprised from the pod cast last night that certain people think fourth bottom will be a successful season, i thought top ten was achievable last season, and if it hadn't been for the drop off in form in the last few games that was very much on the cards. i would expect the management want to be at least flirting with the play-offs, although again we might be looking at a transition season, I dont think we should be. the squad know one another, although under NC the chopping and changing might have been an issue, and we sometimes saw it with a lack of coherance between players on match day.

If i was SS, my instructions would be to build on the existing qualities, add a couple of additional resources, and fix the issues we had last year - not enough goals, too many defensive errors (caused principally by defensive sideways posession). Keep some consistency going forward.

Im hoping that MA is the kind of conservative left field appointment that might buck some of the current trends
MA is inheriting a full squad that stayed up comfortably last season. That's a pretty decent position to be in. All he really needs to do is pull off some of his loan deal magic, to make us more effective in the final third. We started last season nervously with a lot of players new to the level and an inexperienced manager. Our players will start this time knowing the score, confident they can match up. A lot of it is down to man management. Keeping players motivated and full of confidence. Our fans don't all credit Critchley enough with how good he was at this stuff, he had the players buzzing and loving every minute. And focused. Tough act to follow in that regard.
 
As long as pressing doesn’t equate to running around like headless chickens. Our possession last season was mainly in non threatening areas. Looks pretty passing it around at the back and on the half way line, but ultimately boring, frustrating and didn’t pose much of a goal threat. Then we would go long or misplace a pass and lose the ball.
 
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