Lytham_fy8
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Cunts.
If this was France their headquarters would be on fire, here we just tut though.
Cunts.
Thames Water arrogantly say there is no legal requirement for the sea to be safe to swim in, so they don't have to do anything. Beggars belief.Cunts.
If this was France their headquarters would be on fire, here we just tut though.
Probably because they're happily swimming in the waters of their own countries.Thames Water arrogantly say there is no legal requirement for the sea to be safe to swim in, so they don't have to do anything. Beggars belief.
If they say that the headlines next day would be about how many billions of taxpayers money they’d have to spend and how much taxes would rise to pay for it and suddenly Joe Public wouldn’t be so keen. People want change but they don’t want to pay for it.I like the sentiment, and I understand Labour being very conservative in the run up to an election but I will reserve judgement on this.
If they announce some bold, ambitious and achievable policies that will benefit most of us then they might get my vote, although it's almost worthless in reality!
I'd also like to hear them say they are scrapping some of the nonsense such as the Rwanda thing but I don't think they will.
If they said they were going to renationalise water I think most people would be good with that might even secure my vote!
People should be shrewd enough to know that the headlines that appear in the newspapers suit the agendas of the billionaires that own them!If they say that the headlines next day would be about how many billions of taxpayers money they’d have to spend and how much taxes would rise to pay for it and suddenly Joe Public wouldn’t be so keen. People want change but they don’t want to pay for it.
There's very few countries that would put up with it, this country is just full of saps who follow what the media tell them to follow.Can you imagine if this was the USA and their water supply was owned by Arab and European states, who elected to dump raw sewage into their rivers and oceans as opposed to treating it?
How much do you know about the US water/sewage systems?Can you imagine if this was the USA and their water supply was owned by Arab and European states, who elected to dump raw sewage into their rivers and oceans as opposed to treating it?
Too easily distracted from the things that matter with delusional, red white and blue nostalgia that blames people with very little power for the state of things now!There's very few countries that would put up with it, this country is just full of saps who follow what the media tell them to follow.
I know absolutely zero. I suspect most Yanks are in a similar position. Well barring a quick Google search into their privatised water industry.How much do you know about the US water/sewage systems?
I've no idea either, but you appeared to say that they'd never accept it, so I thought you might know more than you do.I know absolutely zero. I suspect most Yanks are in a similar position. Well barring a quick Google search into their privatised water industry.
Advise me LS on the US system and ownership? Are US citizens happy with it and the water quality?
The sewage would have surrendered.Cunts.
If this was France their headquarters would be on fire, here we just tut though.
That’s not the point & you know it.How much do you know about the US water/sewage systems?
It was the point I was responding to.That’s not the point & you know it.
Isn’t that the industry you work in?It was the point I was responding to.
Isn’t that the industry you work in?
I remember in the past on a debate about piss poor performance of water companies and sewage dumping that you were quite knowledgeable? Also that you were happy with the performance results of UU etc
Are you still happy with the UK water companies performance?
lol. SolicitorI am not OFWAT, so what does it matter?
On the subject of discharging sewage into the rivers, 2023 was unusually wet, and 2024 has been the same so far, I'm not sure that the water companies can be held responsible for that.
Bit of a raging capitalist free market site is Capx.Not even close, but I tend to read up on subjects rather than just subscribe to the usual groupthink.
Here's a good starting point: https://capx.co/knee-jerk-nationalisers-have-no-idea-how-the-water-industry-actually-works/
Do you read up from a variety of sources or just the ones that are closest to your preconceived opinions?Not even close, but I tend to read up on subjects rather than just subscribe to the usual groupthink.
Here's a good starting point: https://capx.co/knee-jerk-nationalisers-have-no-idea-how-the-water-industry-actually-works/
What part of my source do you think is wrong?Do you read up from a variety of sources or just the ones that are closest to your preconceived opinions?
It’s funny how on the trans thread you’re all about “protecting the kiddies”.What part of my source do you think is wrong?
What part of my source do you think is wrong?
To be fair it makes some reasonable points but I am fundamentally against the provision of water and disposal of waste water being run for the benefit of shareholders.What part of my source do you think is wrong?
Even if they do a much better job than their public sector equivalents?To be fair it makes some reasonable points but I am fundamentally against the provision of water and disposal of waste water being run for the benefit of shareholders.
If it is under funded within state ownership because governments invest in areas that are obvious vote winners then it confirms to me that the way we govern our country needs to change.
I stopped reading at :Not even close, but I tend to read up on subjects rather than just subscribe to the usual groupthink.
Here's a good starting point: https://capx.co/knee-jerk-nationalisers-have-no-idea-how-the-water-industry-actually-works/
Poor performance now ‘the norm’ for some water firms, warns Ofwat | Water | The Guardian
Serious pollution, poor service and weak financial management embedded, says England and Wales water industry regulatoramp.theguardian.com
These lot have a different view?
It’s very confusing…. Your source says the water companies are doing well and then in this article the regulator says they’re poor?
There isn't a public sector equivalent in England to compare them with. Like I wrote earlier the way we govern our country means that we don't do the best for the majority of our citizens.Even if they do a much better job than their public sector equivalents?
They were pumping raw sewage into rivers when it wasn't raining. They are completely and utterly devoted to making money even at the cost of the environment. Doesn't matter which company, they are all the same to a greater or lesser degree. Billions have gone out of the coffers in dividends that could have been invested in the system instead.I am not OFWAT, so what does it matter?
On the subject of discharging sewage into the rivers, 2023 was unusually wet, and 2024 has been the same so far, I'm not sure that the water companies can be held responsible for that.
They'd be UK owned with no dividends to pay out.The Guardian, cherry-picking from this: https://www.ofwat.gov.uk/publication/water-company-performance-report-2021-22/
6/17 are "lagging", the regulator is pressuring them to improve, also let's bear in mind that this is 2021/22, and I seem to remember there was a little bug going around at the time, which might have had some effect on their performance.
Not great, but would they do any better in public ownership?
Selective readingBit of a raging capitalist free market site is Capx.
Northern Ireland remains in public ownership and by all accounts is in a terrible state.There isn't a public sector equivalent in England to compare them with.
That hardly sounds like an argument for public ownership.Like I wrote earlier the way we govern our country means that we don't do the best for the majority of our citizens.
The reality is, it seems to be run for the benefit of the vast numbers of bureaucrats who infest the civil service and other public bodies, AFAICS government ministers are right at the bottom of the pile.Assuming you aren't a multi millionaire, billionaire, lobbyist or government minister I want the country to be run for the benefit of me and you not the aforementioned.
We aren't going to agree on any of this we appear to be looking at it from different perspectives.Northern Ireland remains in public ownership and by all accounts is in a terrible state.
That hardly sounds like an argument for public ownership.
The reality is, it seems to be run for the benefit of the vast numbers of bureaucrats who infest the civil service and other public bodies, AFAICS government ministers are right at the bottom of the pile.