Andy Pilley/Fleetwood

todayistheday said:
Some people have short memories, Blackpool had to get re elected into the league, if it was like today we could entertaining teams in the NWCL.
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We finished 4th bottom due to a 3 point deduction for fielding an ineligible player.
Recovered very quickly and promoted within a couple seasons.
Cannot ever seeing a big club falling that low into NWCL unless a Phoenix club.
Fleetwood is unlikely but stranger things have happened.
 
Dollar Thief said:
Never heard that but if true Kingstonian were still shit on by AFC Wimbledon.
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Not sure really. Kingstonian willingly sold the ground to Wimbledon, so lost control of their own destiny, and seemed happy with the million. From what I can tell from reading about it.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
The popolution of Barsley (town) at the 2011 census was 91,297, as opposed to the Barnsley Metropolitan Borough, which was 246,886.
Similarly, the City of Preston population is c. 114,000 whilst the Metro area is c. 313,000
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From Wikipedia Blackpool - the wider built-up area (which also includes additional settlements outside the unitary authority) had a population of 239,409,[2] making it the fifth-most populous urban area in the North West after the Manchester, Liverpool, Preston and Birkenhead areas.[3][4]
 
I grew up in Cleveleys long ago about a mile form where Highbury is now, brought to a Blackpool match aged 8 and a supporter ever since.

Will be hoping Fleetwood stay up just for the connection.
 
Seainsea said:
From Wikipedia Blackpool - the wider built-up area (which also includes additional settlements outside the unitary authority) had a population of 239,409,[2] making it the fifth-most populous urban area in the North West after the Manchester, Liverpool, Preston and Birkenhead areas.[3][4]
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Be interesting to see how that breaks down.

I wonder how many fans live nearer to FTFC than BR etc.

Be interesting to see how 'settled' the community is. For example 80%+ of the population which lifts in the town is from the town so have a core fan base and loyalty.

Fleetwood will be similar I think as that's no chance you'd actually choose to live there; Blackpool will have a high proportion of immigration from other parts of the UK whose loyalty lies elsewhere.
 
TSSeasider said:
Be interesting to see how that breaks down.

I wonder how many fans live nearer to FTFC than BR etc.

Be interesting to see how 'settled' the community is. For example 80%+ of the population which lifts in the town is from the town so have a core fan base and loyalty.

Fleetwood will be similar I think as that's no chance you'd actually choose to live there; Blackpool will have a high proportion of immigration from other parts of the UK whose loyalty lies elsewhere.
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"Be interesting to see how that breaks down." if you click on wider built up area it shows how that figure is calculated. Another factor that is mentioned on that Wikipedia page is that on any given weekend in the tourist season the population nearly triples to 360,000
 
Seainsea said:
From Wikipedia Blackpool - the wider built-up area (which also includes additional settlements outside the unitary authority) had a population of 239,409,[2] making it the fifth-most populous urban area in the North West after the Manchester, Liverpool, Preston and Birkenhead areas.[3][4]
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Compare like with like. Fleetwood might well have a population of 26,000 but a fair proportion of their support will come from outside the Borough. A fair few from Thornton, Cleveleys and Poulton.

They don't all come from Fleetwood.
 
Hockaday’s Quiff said:
Re population of towns - Blackpool is far bigger than Preston.
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Not far bigger, quite similar now probably.

Although their area is much bigger.

Blackpool is limited by its small boundary, realistically it should absolutely include places with a Blackpool address like near b and q.

Be interesting when the census data come out, Blackpool has been shrinking in population but all reports are more people are staying and the housing is enjoying a boom.
 
Macseasider said:
Can we?
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100%
Let's not reright history but we've just had an owner who spent fuck all with a modicum of success,paid his son half a million a year and stole any surplus left if bank.

A dodgy Latvian who put in a few quid towards a stand and Charlie when you can't buy a decent Championship striker for half what he put in.

Can the Cods survive without AP's money as a league team can they hell.
 
poolseasider said:
100%
Let's not reright history but we've just had an owner who spent fuck all with a modicum of success,paid his son half a million a year and stole any surplus left if bank.

A dodgy Latvian who put in a few quid towards a stand and Charlie when you can't buy a decent Championship striker for half what he put in.

Can the Cods survive without AP's money as a league team can they hell.
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Would the Nobbers have survived without Hemings millions injected?

Would Blackburn have survived without the Venkeys millions injected?

I could mention dozens of other clubs probably even more, Fleetwood are no different than most other EFL clubs being propped up by a wealthy owner.

Even City United and Liverpool are drip fed by wealthy owners granted on a much bigger scale.
 
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1966_and_all_that said:
Blackpool is the 20th town by population size in the EFL Championship. Those smaller than Blackpool are: Blackburn, Preston, West Bromwich and Barnsley.
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knob end smaller population than blackpool? never knew or thought that tbh

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According to my STH brother, the tickets will only be given to holders of an Onward card which proves they are members of FTFC.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Would the Nobbers have survived without Hemings millions injected?

Would Blackburn have survived without the Venkeys millions injected?

I could mention dozens of other clubs probably even more, Fleetwood are no different than most other EFL clubs being propped up by a wealthy owner.
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Yes and Yes to both your questions where do you think they both would be without the money thrown at them?
Probably Championship or Lge 1 not a flaming chance they would be non league why because they can survive on their own without stupid money thrown at them.

Fleetwood are only able to substane being a League side because of one man's money when that drys up they will go back to normal position in the football pyramid and nowt wrong with that.
 
poolseasider said:
Yes and Yes to both your questions where do you think they both would be without the money thrown at them?
Probably Championship or Lge 1 not a flaming chance they would be non league why because they can survive on their own without stupid money thrown at them.

Fleetwood are only able to substane being a League side because of one man's money when that drys up they will go back to normal position in the football pyramid and nowt wrong with that.
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Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
 
Trademark said:
We're all in the same boat here, we'd be in league 2 without a pilley bit what is rellavent here is he is a real football fella and we know this because he has been letting most of our kids use his £10million football facility over the last 5 year years, you'd be a myopic prick to think differently.
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My eyesight or comprehension of English must be shocking because you read like you are saying Fleetwood are as big a club as Blackpool.
Don't think they are.
 
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Bigger clubs with a history have a history of bouncing back.
Look at tomorrows opponents Luton.
In 2006 they were a Championship side then ended up in a mess.
Played in National League for a few seasons and now Play Off certainties.
Stockport will probably back in League 1 within a couple years after falling down the leagues.

Fleetwood will end up like Scarborough, Rushden and Diamonds or Maidstone.
 
SpionKop said:
knob end smaller population than blackpool? never knew or thought that tbh

edit; no need for answer - read the rest of thread now 😭
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Difference is people move to the Fylde, preston population is static or diminishing, not many people want to move there, fact is when preston people do well financially they move to FY post codes!!
 
poolseasider said:
Hindsight so you believe that Blackburn & Preston wouldn't survive without Hemmings and Venky's after all the years of history and fan base don't be so deluded.

They would learn to live within their means like a lot of clubs do.
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I Never said they wouldn’t survive.

But do you seriously think Man City would be where they are now right without Sheik Mansour’s billions?

Same with John William Henry at Liverpool and the same with the Glaziers at United and the same will be said about Newcastle in a couple of years time, club after club who’s owners have poured billions in the the coffers.

You can’t see it’s the same thing at Fleetwood albeit on a much smaller scale because of your hatred towards both them and Pilley, you’d look at it completely differently if it wasn’t Fleetwood.
 
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Jaffa_The_Hut said:
I Never said they wouldn’t survive.

But do you seriously think Man City would be where they are now right without Sheik Mansour’s billions?

Same with John William Henry at Liverpool and the same with the Glaziers at United and the same will be said about Newcastle in a couple of years time, club after club who’s owners have poured billions in the the coffers.

You can’t see it’s the same thing at Fleetwood albeit on a much smaller scale because of your hatred towards both them and Pilley.
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What you on about when have Liverpool and Man Utd been out of the top league and not won things there massive.

It's a sad indictment that you think the only way to survive is by pumping money in all the time and actually the Glaziers have done very well out of it borrowed money to buy the club and then service the debt with repayment no problems.

City and Newcastle have been around the top leagues also for long periods they always will without stupid money thrown at them.

All the clubs you mention can survive higher up the League's without a single penny from a rich owner the Cods can't survive in Lge 2 without Pilleys money.
 
poolseasider said:
What you on about when have Liverpool and Man Utd been out of the top league and not won things there massive.

It's a sad indictment that you think the only way to survive is by pumping money in all the time and actually the Glaziers have done very well out of it borrowed money to buy the club and then service the debt with repayment no problems.

City and Newcastle have been around the top leagues also for long periods they always will without stupid money thrown at them.

All the clubs you mention can survive higher up the League's without a single penny from a rich owner the Cods can't survive in Lge 2 without Pilleys money.
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I’am talking about being a successful European/world dominant club and actually winning silverware and not just surviving.

Ask yourself why the likes of Burnley, Watford, Norwich, are going down in comparison.

Ok granted one from the above maybe at the exception of Everton.
 
I don't think population numbers are as important as people make out. It's the culture of a place that counts.

Which is why Wigan will always be a Rugby League town. And Fleetwood will always be a town where the unenlightened locals watch Man United or Liverpool on the telly. Tradition, innit.
 
Wizaard said:
Compare like with like. Fleetwood might well have a population of 26,000 but a fair proportion of their support will come from outside the Borough. A fair few from Thornton, Cleveleys and Poulton.

They don't all come from Fleetwood.
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They come from Burn Naze, Knott End…
 
basilrobbie3 said:
I don't think population numbers are as important as people make out. It's the culture of a place that counts.

Which is why Wigan will always be a Rugby League town. And Fleetwood will always be a town where the unenlightened locals watch Man United or Liverpool on the telly. Tradition, innit.
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Which one of those 2 did you support Bazbob in your Fleetwood youth?
 
basilrobbie3 said:
I don't think population numbers are as important as people make out. It's the culture of a place that counts.

Which is why Wigan will always be a Rugby League town. And Fleetwood will always be a town where the unenlightened locals watch Man United or Liverpool on the telly. Tradition, innit.
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Locals watching Man U and Liverpool on the telly is repeated in every town in England not just Fleetwood. Wigan might be a rugby town but I have respect how much the football team has grown in my lifetime from when we played them in the FA Cup that time and the grass bank at Springfield park. Obviously Dave Whelan propelled but even now they probably have a fan base not too dissimilar to us.
 
basilrobbie3 said:
I don't think population numbers are as important as people make out. It's the culture of a place that counts.

Which is why Wigan will always be a Rugby League town. And Fleetwood will always be a town where the unenlightened locals watch Man United or Liverpool on the telly. Tradition, innit.
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Will rugby league always be a thing?!
 
gjr69 said:
My eyesight or comprehension of English must be shocking because you read like you are saying Fleetwood are as big a club as Blackpool.
Don't think they are.
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Nah that will be my English😁"same boat" as in being propped up by a wealthy owner.
 
gjr69 said:
Difference is people move to the Fylde, preston population is static or diminishing, not many people want to move there, fact is when preston people do well financially they move to FY post codes!!
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i’m not arguing with that mate 👍
 
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