Appletons post match interview

Doubt it unless he has something else lined up like last time.

I know for a fact that players donā€™t like him saying that sort of thing though, hardly surprising really when heā€™s publicly saying they arenā€™t good enough (whether itā€™s true or not).
Itā€™s up to the players to prove him wrong then reallyā€¦. Unfortunately as things stand, whilst they are showing plenty of effort and endeavour, the quality is lacking.
 
The money for training ground and East is borrowed.

So to counter your question do you want the club in debt for Championship survival with no guarantees?

Sadler who is already putting six figures in year on year has already said he won't do a Derby and 100% fund the team and when you consider Sunderland's first home game got more attendees than our first three that's what we're up against.
First question is , did pool get into debt last season staying up šŸ¤”
then you ask , do I want pool like derby , no I donā€™t , but your right thereā€™s no guarantess , that pool will get back to the championship , look how long it took first and then second time

to me staying up is important than the east stand , yes we need a training ground asap , but to sacrifice to relegation then no guarantee to come back , the higher you are in the leagues the better quality of player to play on our new training ground

I can see both sides of it , but surly stating in this league with bigger crowds and better tv revenue is a must surly ,
selling bowler , IF , it happens today , then them funds should be put back into the playing side , only on fees thou
Simon did say , the better players pool produce then when they sell it makes the team stronger when the money has been out back into the team
looking at Brentford model

just worries me that the talk is , training ground first over this team

there is another way lol
get pool into the prem , last time we had bad owners who stole the money , no legacy was left , this time surly Simon would invest into a new training ground from the money , thatā€™s a legacy left , but no guarantees thou getting back lol
 
We just need to get a few players back from injury. The injuries arenā€™t Appletonā€™s fault or Sadlerā€™s fault.

Patino will be back in a week or two, Carey too. Team looks totally different then, this period was always going to be a struggle.

Anybody who compares where we are now to where we were under the Oystons is a moron and should be treated as such.
 
First question is , did pool get into debt last season staying up šŸ¤”
then you ask , do I want pool like derby , no I donā€™t , but your right thereā€™s no guarantess , that pool will get back to the championship , look how long it took first and then second time

to me staying up is important than the east stand , yes we need a training ground asap , but to sacrifice to relegation then no guarantee to come back , the higher you are in the leagues the better quality of player to play on our new training ground

I can see both sides of it , but surly stating in this league with bigger crowds and better tv revenue is a must surly ,
selling bowler , IF , it happens today , then them funds should be put back into the playing side , only on fees thou
Simon did say , the better players pool produce then when they sell it makes the team stronger when the money has been out back into the team
looking at Brentford model

just worries me that the talk is , training ground first over this team

there is another way lol
get pool into the prem , last time we had bad owners who stole the money , no legacy was left , this time surly Simon would invest into a new training ground from the money , thatā€™s a legacy left , but no guarantees thou getting back lol
I don't know if we got into debt staying up and doing a Derby was Sadler's word not mine when interviewed but some want to halt infrastructure at the club to fund the playing side.

The East has to be built or will be closed at some point and every club has a decent training ground even Cods and Fylde do as SS could walk out leave the club millions in debt and any new owner would still have to build all the stuff.
 
I don't know if we got into debt staying up and doing a Derby was Sadler's word not mine when interviewed but some want to halt infrastructure at the club to fund the playing side.

The East has to be built or will be closed at some point and every club has a decent training ground even Cods and Fylde do as SS could walk out leave the club millions in debt and any new owner would still have to build all the stuff.
The danger I've always seen is SS lends the Cluib the money and the TG gets built along with the East. Then he's forced to leave for whatever reason, the Club could owe him Ā£30/40m. How favourably is he going to be to the new owners? It's a conundrum.
 
The danger I've always seen is SS lends the Cluib the money and the TG gets built along with the East. Then he's forced to leave for whatever reason, the Club could owe him Ā£30/40m. How favourably is he going to be to the new owners? It's a conundrum.
At least any new owner would know where he stands coming in.
Not the clubs 30 million in debt as SS has put the money into it paying players and oh by the way we're shutting the East on safety grounds and your still training at Squires Gate.
 
I thought the east was something that was being planned but not before the training ground has been delivered. We should be able to get the training ground and stay up comfortably if Sadler is loaning the club the cash for the training ground. I think we would stay up with the current players myself, but Bowler going puts more onus on our young loans to deliver consistently for us. The Blackburn young lads last night showed itā€™s more than possible.
 
Yeah, but they'd be taking on the debt. Much harder to sell I think.
As things stand were a club with a Tin Pot training ground and a temporary stand that has a limited lifespan and isnā€™t really fit for purpose.

If a new owner were to take over, then heā€™d have to fund both at some point in any case. Do I donā€™t see the difference between inheriting a club with an investment need to inheriting a club with a partial debt (structured over time) to pay for the facilities already having been completed.

Itā€™s not like you just inherit the dentā€¦ you do actually get the land, the buildings, the new stand etcā€¦
 
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As things stand were a club with a Tin Pot training ground and a temporary stand that has a limited lifespan and isnā€™t really fit for purpose.

If a new owner were to take over, then heā€™d have to fund both at some point in any case. Do I donā€™t see the difference between inheriting a club with an investment need to inheriting a club with a partial debt (structured over time) to pay for the facilities already having been completed.

Itā€™s not like you just inherit the dentā€¦ you do actually get the land, the buildings, the new stand etcā€¦
I can see that, it's just a new owner may not be mega rich and be put off by the debt. Also we don't know what structure the loan to BFC will take- repayable on demand with interest? Also the manner of SS's departure should it come to that.

Anyway, as far as I'm aware very little money has been spent on the TG/E as of yet, so it's a discussion to be had when more info is available probably next spring.
 
He wouldn't be able to sell us you'd just be taking on the debt.

But some want the plans halting to fund the playing side so it's bad debt.
Which is a point paulco was making last night in a way, when he said about seeking another investor. That would then keep the football funded to a good level whilst the TG 'steams ahead'.
 
Itā€™s up to the players to prove him wrong then reallyā€¦. Unfortunately as things stand, whilst they are showing plenty of effort and endeavour, the quality is lacking.
Donā€™t get me wrong I agree with what heā€™s saying but thatā€™s not the way to manage any employee in my experience. Publicly telling everyone you think theyā€™re shit only serves to piss people off.
 
Which is a point paulco was making last night in a way, when he said about seeking another investor. That would then keep the football funded to a good level whilst the TG 'steams ahead'.
What on earth would an investor come in for?
Unless their ready to toss a load of money down the drain owning a football club especially one our size ain't exactly a great investment.

Two out of the three promoted sides out of the last so many years(apart from Leeds)have been in receipt of parachute payments so even chasing the golden goose is extremely hard with clubs getting further and further in debt chasing it.
We'd go under if we tried that stunt.
 
I can see that, it's just a new owner may not be mega rich and be put off by the debt. Also we don't know what structure the loan to BFC will take- repayable on demand with interest? Also the manner of SS's departure should it come to that.

Anyway, as far as I'm aware very little money has been spent on the TG/E as of yet, so it's a discussion to be had when more info is available probably next spring.

A football club needs a complete stadium and a proper training facility mate.

Theyā€™re pre-requisites at L2 level, never mind for a competent Championship side.

The investment is required, we have someone willing to fund the investment, Iā€™m not really sure why we want to look for a ā€˜disaster scenarioā€™ ?
 
A football club needs a complete stadium and a proper training facility mate.

Theyā€™re pre-requisites at L2 level, never mind for a competent Championship side.

The investment is required, we have someone willing to fund the investment, Iā€™m not really sure why we want to look for a ā€˜disaster scenarioā€™ ?
Didn't SS say that whilst the TG investment is being made we won't be spending that much on players? Another investor would be more than handy in that respect.
 
Donā€™t get me wrong I agree with what heā€™s saying but thatā€™s not the way to manage any employee in my experience. Publicly telling everyone you think theyā€™re shit only serves to piss people off.
I agree with you to a certain extent Gary, it was certainly a feature of the Paul Ince tenure at Blackpool and yiu do wonder at times if itā€™s a case of a manager ā€˜getting their excuses in earlyā€™.

As things stand, he obviously wants to encourage the board to bring in some better quality additions, we are at the bare bones given our injuries, players forced to play out of position or in unsuited roles etcā€¦

So I think you can probably give him a pass. He could probably phrase things a bit better šŸ‘
 
Didn't SS say that whilst the TG investment is being made we won't be spending that much on players? Another investor would be more than handy in that respect.
Iā€™m not sure exactly what he said founts. Possibly words to that effect, although I suspect he was meaning huge investment in players as opposed to none.

Today might be a good barometer in terms of where we are at on player investmentā€¦. Thereā€™s clearly some pressure for improvements.
 
Iā€™m not sure exactly what he said founts. Possibly words to that effect, although I suspect he was meaning huge investment in players as opposed to none.

Today might be a good barometer in terms of where we are at on player investmentā€¦. Thereā€™s clearly some pressure for improvements.
That was the jist of it, think multi million or maybe 2m was mentioned.

I don't think another investor would come in- I don't think SS wants that, but the potential investment in the playing side wouldn't be unwelcome.
 
That was the jist of it, think multi million or maybe 2m was mentioned.

I don't think another investor would come in- I don't think SS wants that, but the potential investment in the playing side wouldn't be unwelcome.
ā€œSustainableā€ is probably an overused word in football these days. Iā€™m not sure itā€™s a reality reallyā€¦.So one way or another we need investment šŸ‘
 
Doubt it unless he has something else lined up like last time.

I know for a fact that players donā€™t like him saying that sort of thing though, hardly surprising really when heā€™s publicly saying they arenā€™t good enough (whether itā€™s true or not).
Exactly my thoughts. Canā€™t be good for squad morale
 
I can't wait for him post transfer deadline day interview. His veins are going to be bulging even more than normal. šŸ˜”
 
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