ASDA £1 meals for kids

Wizaard said:
Exactly this.

This shower of shite have abdicated all responsibility for anything.
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It's a bit of an overreach to say they've abdicated responsibility for anything.

We collectively pay for their education, medical care etc. up to the age of 18, we give each child (up to two per family) a tax free amount per week, which adds up to between £15k and £19k by the time they reach adulthood, we protect the most at risk children and remove them harm, we actually pay people handsomely to look after them, we are currently paying significantly towards feeding kids on FSM in the school holidays and paying for them to attend free activities and so on.

All of these things are good and I have no problem with doing it, but we need to be careful about where the line is drawn; having children is a choice not forced upon any of us - it's a parents responsibility to look after them.
 
TSSeasider said:
It's a bit of an overreach to say they've abdicated responsibility for anything.

We collectively pay for their education, medical care etc. up to the age of 18, we give each child (up to two per family) a tax free amount per week, which adds up to between £15k and £19k by the time they reach adulthood, we protect the most at risk children and remove them harm, we actually pay people handsomely to look after them, we are currently paying significantly towards feeding kids on FSM in the school holidays and paying for them to attend free activities and so on.

All of these things are good and I have no problem with doing it, but we need to be careful about where the line is drawn; having children is a choice not forced upon any of us - it's a parents responsibility to look after them.
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Except when people decided to have the children fuel and energy prices weren't out of control and inflation wasn't at 11% while wages stagnated.

It's also a fairly basic responsibility of any government to look after children, the bare minimum of any functioning democracy, not massively sure this lot qualify as that right now. It's simply not good enough to suggest that it's always someone else's responsibility, because if it is, what is the point of government?
 
TSSeasider said:
It's a bit of an overreach to say they've abdicated responsibility for anything.

All of these things are good and I have no problem with doing it, but we need to be careful about where the line is drawn; having children is a choice not forced upon any of us - it's a parents responsibility to look after them.
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It is indeed a choice to have children. But it's not a choice to have a second mortgage (or more) sized energy bill, inflation in double figures and zero net payrises for the best part of 15 years.

It's SO lazy to blame parents for struggling during this national crisis which were borne out of factors no parent has any control of. These kids are the ones that will look after our generations when we are old and infirm. They need some respect. Not their fault their parents are being financially fleeced. I'm all right Jack for those that have eh?
 
So people should choose not to have children just in case something happens in the future that means they might struggle to support them. So only the very wealthy should have children.
As a child I got free school meals and free uniforms. My dad got TB a couple of years after I was born and couldn’t work. Should they have not had me just in case? This was in the 1950/60s. By no means some new phenomenon and even back then we used to go in to school during the school holidays for our free dinners. I think the difference then was that society in general had more of a social responsibility to look after one another. I’m also sure that in adulthood I’ve more that repaid the debt to society.
 
Not sure why this is turned into an anti-government thread.
The Government provides welfare support for the needy. The country is in huge debt. Eye watering debt. We’ve just had the pandemic when most of us, if not all, gratefully took money off the Government so we could feed ourselves and our families.
Extra welfare was provided for those on universal credit or other benefits.
They’ve just provided extra payments to the hardest hit and there’s more to come.
The Government doesn’t micro manage our lives or micro manage society. Within a civilised capitalist society there are charities, volunteers, citizens, and businesses. All can play a role in helping the poor and vulnerable.
If a supermarket decides to help with the cost of living then that’s a good thing. It’s not right to turn it into an attack on the government. The help from business can and should supplement help from the state. Many big business did extremely well during the pandemic and are cash rich.
It’s right they now help their customers during the cost of living difficulties. One employer announced yesterday that they are going to give all their employees over a grand to help with the cost of living. Bravo. More of that please. We can’t just sit back and expect the government to pay for everything because guess what - it’s us that has to eventually pay down the debt and pay down the debt interest.
Well done Asda. Well done Iceland. Let’s see a few other business step up too.
 
Malced said:
We’ve just had the pandemic when most of us, if not all, gratefully took money off the Government so we could feed ourselves and our families.
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"All"?? Didn't get anything, just worked as normal, so did my wife, and all 3 kids, and their partners.

We're all paying the COVID tax though. 👍
 
Blame blame blame blame, what a load of bull shit, a lot of parents are quite happy to give their kids a fiver in the morning to get a burger and chips after school cos the lazy fat fuckers are too lazy to do the cooking, as for the quid a meal , maybe just maybe go into Asda and buy the ingredients and go home and cook, you can easily feed four kids for four quid from scratch 👍🏻 It isn’t the governments job to feed our kids.
it’s the parents job.
 
Blackpools finest said:
Blame blame blame blame, what a load of bull shit, a lot of parents are quite happy to give their kids a fiver in the morning to get a burger and chips after school cos the lazy fat fuckers are too lazy to do the cooking, as for the quid a meal , maybe just maybe go into Asda and buy the ingredients and go home and cook, you can easily feed four kids for four quid from scratch 👍🏻 It isn’t the governments job to feed our kids.
it’s the parents job.
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Point missed. WHOOSHHHHH.......
 
Call me cynical….

It’s a great loss leader (if it is even a loss leader).

Parent buys kid food, parent probably has something and then likely to do the shop or buy something else.

Good idea all round 👍
 
seasideone said:
Call me cynical….

It’s a great loss leader (if it is even a loss leader).

Parent buys kid food, parent probably has something and then likely to do the shop or buy something else.

Good idea all round 👍
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Of course it is. Meals like Macc and cheese which can made made from the ingredients in the shop at home for less. No altruism going on here at all.
 
Halifax71 said:
"All"?? Didn't get anything, just worked as normal, so did my wife, and all 3 kids, and their partners.

We're all paying the COVID tax though. 👍
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And rightly so we’re all paying towards the cost of covid. I’m sure you won’t resent that just because you were fortunate enough not to require any government assistance. 👍
 
Malced said:
And rightly so we’re all paying towards the cost of covid. I’m sure you won’t resent that just because you were fortunate enough not to require any government assistance. 👍
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I resent paying for something when it wasn't necessary in the first place. I had builders in at the time and they couldn't down tools quick enough.
 
Halifax71 said:
I resent paying for something when it wasn't necessary in the first place. I had builders in at the time and they couldn't down tools quick enough.
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Well that’s because there was covid guidance about isolating and the two metres rule etc.
There were rules to follow and many of them were stemming from legislation.

We can debate whether lockdowns etc were necessary but they did indeed happen. The government financial interventions kept the economy going, to the benefit of the country and the population in general.

Like it or not, we have the collective responsibility to pay the debt down whether we accrued the debt personally or not.

It’s the way it is. We might never claim an unemployment benefit but we pay towards the welfare state. We might not need an operation but we pay to towards the nhs.

The furlough scheme and the scheme for self employed plus all the support for benefit claimants and pensioners and businesses helped many many millions. We can’t be coming up with an itemised specific payback bill for each individual based on the actual level of support they had.

We all pay for the covid jabs whether we have them or not. We all paid towards the eat out to help out scheme whether we dined out on it or not.
 
Malced said:
Well that’s because there was covid guidance about isolating and the two metres rule etc.
There were rules to follow and many of them were stemming from legislation.

We can debate whether lockdowns etc were necessary but they did indeed happen. The government financial interventions kept the economy going, to the benefit of the country and the population in general.

Like it or not, we have the collective responsibility to pay the debt down whether we accrued the debt personally or not.

It’s the way it is. We might never claim an unemployment benefit but we pay towards the welfare state. We might not need an operation but we pay to towards the nhs.

The furlough scheme and the scheme for self employed plus all the support for benefit claimants and pensioners and businesses helped many many millions. We can’t be coming up with an itemised specific payback bill for each individual based on the actual level of support they had.

We all pay for the covid jabs whether we have them or not. We all paid towards the eat out to help out scheme whether we dined out on it or not.
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Get what you're saying but I think paying the Covid bill is made somewhat easier by the beneficiaries/ones calling for measures actually accepting there is a huge bill to pay. Instead its defensive excuses time and pointing to this and that as 'other' factors with no mention of the elephant in the room. I don't have to paint you a picture on this.

The health, social and economic costs for this little escapade have been astronomical and I simply can't take anyone seriously who won't accept this obvious fact.

Think I've said before, I'm happy to pick up the tab knowing now that they've stopped their stupid shit and I can go about my business (which includes earning a crust, paying tax, raising and educating kids and also heaven forfend having a pint at the weekend) without any aggro from nutbar Covidians.

If some could recant their oddball extremist views on closing down and restricting bits of society in response to a out of control virus, that would provide some reassurances it won't happen again, but that might be a bridge too far at this point.
 
rockontommy said:
Get what you're saying but I think paying the Covid bill is made somewhat easier by the beneficiaries/ones calling for measures actually accepting there is a huge bill to pay. Instead its defensive excuses time and pointing to this and that as 'other' factors with no mention of the elephant in the room. I don't have to paint you a picture on this.

The health, social and economic costs for this little escapade have been astronomical and I simply can't take anyone seriously who won't accept this obvious fact.

Think I've said before, I'm happy to pick up the tab knowing now that they've stopped their stupid shit and I can go about my business (which includes earning a crust, paying tax, raising and educating kids and also heaven forfend having a pint at the weekend) without any aggro from nutbar Covidians.

If some could recant their oddball extremist views on closing down and restricting bits of society in response to a out of control virus, that would provide some reassurances it won't happen again, but that might be a bridge too far at this point.
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It's the same ones who used to educate us on the need to lockdown who are now moaning about the bill.

The words sow and reap spring to mind.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
It's the same ones who used to educate us on the need to lockdown who are now moaning about the bill.

The words sow and reap spring to mind.
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Absolutely. And most of them were more than happy to take free money whilst sitting on their arses watching Netflix and saying ‘hmm I think we don’t need to lift lockdown just yet’.
 
rockontommy said:
Get what you're saying but I think paying the Covid bill is made somewhat easier by the beneficiaries/ones calling for measures actually accepting there is a huge bill to pay. Instead its defensive excuses time and pointing to this and that as 'other' factors with no mention of the elephant in the room. I don't have to paint you a picture on this.

The health, social and economic costs for this little escapade have been astronomical and I simply can't take anyone seriously who won't accept this obvious fact.

Think I've said before, I'm happy to pick up the tab knowing now that they've stopped their stupid shit and I can go about my business (which includes earning a crust, paying tax, raising and educating kids and also heaven forfend having a pint at the weekend) without any aggro from nutbar Covidians.

If some could recant their oddball extremist views on closing down and restricting bits of society in response to a out of control virus, that would provide some reassurances it won't happen again, but that might be a bridge too far at this point.
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I think we’re on the same page here 👍👍
 
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