Assessing the signings so far

[JJpool]

We await to see if we have further strengthened which I still feel we need to.

However we are still yet to see a lot of our signings quality yet. It's early days and it can take a little while to settle, especially in a struggling side.

But when you look at some of the signings, I think some are pretty good.

Norburn, Pennington, Morgan, Rhodes, Dembele, Joseph, Weir. There's some quality in there.

Kouassi has the attributes to be a potentially good player and no issue with that gamble.

Oakley-booth I don't know much about.

Some other players for decent back up like O'Donnell and Chapman.

But particularly the first list, I think there some talent there.

I would still like us to sign someone who's scored a lot of goals and costs a fee, let's see if that comes or if anything else happens, but some of those signings are promising and we've seen little of them yet in a side struggling for identity.

I think the fact we've been pretty poor so far and losing Joseph before even really seeing him has left a worse feeling that it should and left us shorter up top.

If we have added to that further in the attacking areas then it'll be a decent window, I think it's some of the football and failure to do much with what we do have that's part of why people are panicking more.

The football we've played has been pretty ineffective, not necessarily the players we've signed so far, although we could do with a bit more in attack.

 

[AmericanTangerine]

We await to see if we have further strengthened which I still feel we need to.

However we are still yet to see a lot of our signings quality yet. It's early days and it can take a little while to settle, especially in a struggling side.

But when you look at some of the signings, I think some are pretty good.

Norburn, Pennington, Morgan, Rhodes, Dembele, Joseph, Weir. There's some quality in there.

Kouassi has the attributes to be a potentially good player and no issue with that gamble.

Oakley-booth I don't know much about.

Some other players for decent back up like O'Donnell and Chapman.

But particularly the first list, I think there some talent there.

I would still like us to sign someone who's scored a lot of goals and costs a fee, let's see if that comes or if anything else happens, but some of those signings are promising and we've seen little of them yet in a side struggling for identity.

I think the fact we've been pretty poor so far and losing Joseph before even really seeing him has left a worse feeling that it should and left us shorter up top.

If we have added to that further in the attacking areas then it'll be a decent window, I think it's some of the football and failure to do much with what we do have that's part of why people are panicking more, not necessarily the signings we have made so far.

The football we've played has been pretty ineffective, not necessarily the players we've signed so far, although we could do with a bit more in attack.

I agree with your assessment.

We’ve brought in certain quality, but they haven’t yet performed.

Another signing for a big fee would’ve been nice, but it’s not the end of the world.

On paper this window was solid on paper, but the overall assessment will be made based on performances.

Let’s see if we kick on or not.

 

[voyeur]

We await to see if we have further strengthened which I still feel we need to.

You're talking as if the window is still open?

 

[BFC_53]

We await to see if we have further strengthened which I still feel we need to.

However we are still yet to see a lot of our signings quality yet. It's early days and it can take a little while to settle, especially in a struggling side.

But when you look at some of the signings, I think some are pretty good.

Norburn, Pennington, Morgan, Rhodes, Dembele, Joseph, Weir. There's some quality in there.

Kouassi has the attributes to be a potentially good player and no issue with that gamble.

Oakley-booth I don't know much about.

Some other players for decent back up like O'Donnell and Chapman.

But particularly the first list, I think there some talent there.

I would still like us to sign someone who's scored a lot of goals and costs a fee, let's see if that comes or if anything else happens, but some of those signings are promising and we've seen little of them yet in a side struggling for identity.

I think the fact we've been pretty poor so far and losing Joseph before even really seeing him has left a worse feeling that it should and left us shorter up top.

If we have added to that further in the attacking areas then it'll be a decent window, I think it's some of the football and failure to do much with what we do have that's part of why people are panicking more.

The football we've played has been pretty ineffective, not necessarily the players we've signed so far, although we could do with a bit more in attack.

We've yet to see a full game from Pennington, Rhodes, Dembele, Joseph, Oakley-booth or Weir so we can't really offer any assessment on whether any of them are good enough. All we can do is hope they are at this point.

Norburn and Morgan we have. Norburn was good in the first game but has struggled since imo. He is a leader though which we have lacked, so I get it. A solid signing definitely.

Morgan has been underwhelming I think. He was allowed to leave by a club that finished 10th last season, so it doesn't really come as a surprise. There's time for him to develop, but I can't say it's an exciting signing.

There's an awful lot riding on Dembele, Weir and Rhodes to be top six players.

 

[Macseasider]

You're talking as if the window is still open?

It's like putting your fingers in your ears and continually shouting "everything is fine, everything is fine, everything is fine".

 

[JJpool]

I agree with your assessment.

We’ve brought in certain quality, but they haven’t yet performed.

Another signing for a big fee would’ve been nice, but it’s not the end of the world.

On paper this window was solid on paper, but the overall assessment will be made based on performances.

Let’s see if we kick on or not.

We could use Lyons as an e.g. he hasn't looked very good but has been played on the other side and hasn't yet shown anywhere near what he did last season.

Does that mean he now poor, no, players aren't being maximised and currently aren't performing as a unit.

We've yet to see some at all.

Norburn has looked generally pretty good and shown some obvious quality.
Morgan looked decent at times.
Pennington looked decent, was highly rated and everyone happy with that when he signed.
Weir is highly rated, score and creates and people were very happy with this one.
Rhodes seems a decent addition at this level and even when thrown in on a poor team display, he made a bit of an impact.
Joseph, people were pretty happy with him and the money from Swansea, it's just he's been injured, not that he's no good.
Dembele looks very tricky and can hopefully add a bit of a spark from the wings.

I've said on another thread I would like to see a bit more evidence of us reinvesting money once players are sold, as that is the model and it's how we get ahead and are eventually able to sign players well outside our budget, with money from players sales we just wouldn't have otherwise, but it does require clever and sometimes a decent fee of investment. I'd also expect us to be plucking the best talent from the league below or even this league.

The example I used was the Moxon one. We as a club, who've brought in decent money from player sales and a club of our stature at this level, should be able to make that sort of signing if we see him as a quality addition.

OK I get having a price and not being ripped off, but we have to reinvest and that usually means buying a player someone else values, they can't all be free. Well, they could but we'd have to be very lucky. We can pick some good ones up that way, but not all.

 

[JJpool]

You're talking as if the window is still open?

The club don't usually announce and last minute ones until the next day do they?

 

[JJpool]

We've yet to see a full game from Pennington, Rhodes, Dembele, Joseph, Oakley-booth or Weir so we can't really offer any assessment on whether any of them are good enough. All we can do is hope they are at this point.

Norburn and Morgan we have. Norburn was good in the first game but has struggled since imo. He is a leader though which we have lacked, so I get it. A solid signing definitely.

Morgan has been underwhelming I think. He was allowed to leave by a club that finished 10th last season, so it doesn't really come as a surprise. There's time for him to develop, but I can't say it's an exciting signing.

There's an awful lot riding on Dembele, Weir and Rhodes to be top six players.

Pennington was one of Shrewsburys best players if I remember correctly and a lot were surprised he wasn't maybe championship bound.

The club don't get the chance to see if he works out, they make the signing in good faith based on what he's done and his potential to succeed.

Most were happy with it at the time and he does actually fit thr model of picking the better players from clubs below or at our level.

Weir another who did well at this level and many creamed themselves when he arrived, by all accounts a good addition.

Joseph people were happy with and did pretty well at Oxford and is still developing, a lot were fairly happy and considering we just lost Jerry that says a lot.

Yes we need to see them and hopefully they do it but the pedigree of some of them is good, that's all the club can go off really.

It's easy with hindsight if some don't make it to call it out, but some of those same people will have been happy when they signed. For judging the club that has to be taken into consideration.

 

[voyeur]

The club don't usually announce and last minute ones until the next day do they?

Not sure about that. I think we announced one in the morning, once?

 

[AmericanTangerine]

Not sure about that. I think we announced one in the morning, once?

We announced Dale and Tharme the day after.

However, doesn’t sound like that’ll be the case.

 

[BFC_53]

Pennington was one of Shrewsburys best players if I remember correctly and a lot were surprised he wasn't maybe championship bound.

The club don't get the chance to see if he works out, they make the signing in good faith based on what he's done and his potential to succeed.

Most were happy with it at the time and he does actually fit thr model of picking the better players from clubs below or at our level.

Weir another who did well at this level and many creamed themselves when he arrived, by all accounts a good addition.

Yep he came with good reviews, but we haven't been able to judge him ourselves yet which is what counts. That said, in the few minutes he played against Burton I thought he looked decent.

 

[JJpool]

Yep he came with good reviews, but we haven't been able to judge him ourselves yet which is what counts. That said, in the few minutes he played against Burton I thought he looked decent.

I was editing my post so you may want to reply to that bit.

 

[BFC_53]

I was editing my post so you may want to reply to that bit.

Yeah I don't disagree with much of what you're saying, I just also have a nervousness that if the likes of Weir and Dembele don't turn out to be good then it'll be a depressing season. It's a worry. They're concerns that I hope will be put to bed tomorrow!
I do think we've had some shocking luck too with injuries - again.

 

[JJpool]

Not sure about that. I think we announced one in the morning, once?

Well I was giving it the chance, anything late on they aren't usually putting it out if I recall some past ones. I'm sure there was some fairly recently where it happened and they seem to put the media out at more peak times. Or maybe the admin doesn't do late nights...

However there may have been clues from 'sources' that a signing was due.

If not then it will be a bit disappointing but as said there has been some quality additions and if Joseph wasn't injured we'd be feeling a little better. Also if we had shown some nous in setting up the side we'd all be feeling a bit better too.

 

[JJpool]

Yeah I don't disagree with much of what you're saying, I just also have a nervousness that if the likes of Weir and Dembele don't turn out to be good then it'll be a depressing season. It's a worry. They're concerns that I hope will be put to bed tomorrow!
I do think we've had some shocking luck too with injuries - again.

Yeah we could say that with any signings, some of which have done well elsewhere and were pretty highly rated upon arrival.

Sometimes it doesn't work, sometimes they don't fit the way we play.

We obviously hope they do and that the manager can get them and us playing.

But for the club signing them, without hindsight and only with their past, attitude, potential to go off, and most being happy at the time of those signings due to thwir past and potential, it points to the lack of results and effectiveness, rather than the signings made in good faith by the club.

Although I have said I would like to see the model a bit more of reinvestment when we sell our better assets and also we should be able to pluck the better talent from clubs we should now have a financial advantage over.

 

[rememberlesshannon]

Letting Apter go out means we have one genuine wide man on the books until January and at present relying on a 33 year old to get us goals. So irrespective of the signings so far and how they are performing, we are short where it matters.

 

[Bennys_was_a_mob]

Letting Apter go out means we have one genuine wide man on the books until January and at present relying on a 33 year old to get us goals. So irrespective of the signings so far and how they are performing, we are short where it matters.

Not short for the mid table League 1 side we now are

 

[Victorsponge]

Letting Apter go out means we have one genuine wide man on the books until January and at present relying on a 33 year old to get us goals. So irrespective of the signings so far and how they are performing, we are short where it matters.

Why till January?

 

[Victorsponge]

We've yet to see a full game from Pennington, Rhodes, Dembele, Joseph, Oakley-booth or Weir so we can't really offer any assessment on whether any of them are good enough. All we can do is hope they are at this point.

Norburn and Morgan we have. Norburn was good in the first game but has struggled since imo. He is a leader though which we have lacked, so I get it. A solid signing definitely.

Morgan has been underwhelming I think. He was allowed to leave by a club that finished 10th last season, so it doesn't really come as a surprise. There's time for him to develop, but I can't say it's an exciting signing.

There's an awful lot riding on Dembele, Weir and Rhodes to be top six players.

Top six? I really think our challenge this season is avoiding bottom 4.

 

[Theoneandonly]

We await to see if we have further strengthened which I still feel we need to.

However we are still yet to see a lot of our signings quality yet. It's early days and it can take a little while to settle, especially in a struggling side.

But when you look at some of the signings, I think some are pretty good.

Norburn, Pennington, Morgan, Rhodes, Dembele, Joseph, Weir. There's some quality in there.

Kouassi has the attributes to be a potentially good player and no issue with that gamble.

Oakley-booth I don't know much about.

Some other players for decent back up like O'Donnell and Chapman.

But particularly the first list, I think there some talent there.

I would still like us to sign someone who's scored a lot of goals and costs a fee, let's see if that comes or if anything else happens, but some of those signings are promising and we've seen little of them yet in a side struggling for identity.

I think the fact we've been pretty poor so far and losing Joseph before even really seeing him has left a worse feeling that it should and left us shorter up top.

If we have added to that further in the attacking areas then it'll be a decent window, I think it's some of the football and failure to do much with what we do have that's part of why people are panicking more.

The football we've played has been pretty ineffective, not necessarily the players we've signed so far, although we could do with a bit more in attack.

The honest answer is based on stats our recruitment is disjointed and imbalanced. Does it serve our needs? We won't know about Joseph until probably November at the earliest and you can't rush him back because it will be heavier pitches and thus more prone to inducing injuries. Yes a couple of players do seem decent but the rest either have lost their way, or aged into relevant insignificance. We've not put the odds in our favour for promotion with our recruitment or addressed our weaknesses as a team in an effective manner.

 

[Chunkylad]

The honest answer is based on stats our recruitment is disjointed and imbalanced. Does it serve our needs? We won't know about Joseph until probably November at the earliest and you can't rush him back because it will be heavier pitches and thus more prone to inducing injuries. Yes a couple of players do seem decent but the rest either have lost their way, or aged into relevant insignificance. We've not put the odds in our favour for promotion with our recruitment or addressed our weaknesses as a team in an effective manner.

Don’t disagree with this at all. We’ve got enough quality in key positions but then our depth when injuries kick in isn’t great.

I’m on record of not liking 3 at the back. There’s very few successful teams set up like that in the past 5 years. If we did move to 4 at the back, then we do look short on wingers.

If we stick to 3-5-2 then we’ve got the numbers but our wing backs (Thompson and Lyons would have been obvious candidates) to now start performing better

 

[Theoneandonly]

So we punch in more crosses. Who's putting the finishing touches to the moves? Lavery's injured. Rhodes lost his goal scoring boots according to stats years ago, Beesley?, CJ, Dembele? We sold our goals, didn't replace our goals in this window and it may prove to be another costly mistake by Sadler.

 

[A_Tense_Grin]

There is only Norburn that looks like top 6 quality. The rest still have something to prove or too early to judge.

Considering the amount of players you have listed there, that is actually shockingly poor.

 

[rememberlesshannon]

Why till January?

Unless we follow the Karl model of free agents, who will come grovelling back for less wages because they didn’t get fixed up.

 

[gordy29]

As I said on another thread lack of target man will kill us. Suppose madine may be an option but no idea on that yet. Rhodes is not a target man and he has a lot to prove at his age. Similarly Joseph not a target man and anyway is out for some time. No goals yet seem to be coming through from midfield. I fear for us but hope of course that I'm wrong.

 

[Theoneandonly]

As I said on another thread lack of target man will kill us. Suppose madine may be an option but no idea on that yet. Rhodes is not a target man and he has a lot to prove at his age. Similarly Joseph not a target man and anyway is out for some time. No goals yet seem to be coming through from midfield. I fear for us but hope of course that I'm wrong.

He's 33 and been on the decline for years and yet still drawing a pay packet. What is he going to prove and why now after declining for years?

 

[Pun_1]

Well I was giving it the chance, anything late on they aren't usually putting it out if I recall some past ones. I'm sure there was some fairly recently where it happened and they seem to put the media out at more peak times. Or maybe the admin doesn't do late nights...

However there may have been clues from 'sources' that a signing was due.

If not then it will be a bit disappointing but as said there has been some quality additions and if Joseph wasn't injured we'd be feeling a little better. Also if we had shown some nous in setting up the side we'd all be feeling a bit better too.

Agree with the Joseph point. The fact we’ve not seen him in action bar a few minutes at Derby has made things seem much worse than it is.

If he had been fit and making an impact in the team these early games I think most would have looked at our business differently.

Of course right now, it feels like we are undercooked in them forward areas.

We’ve got options but with the injuries to Joseph and now Lavery we’re down to the bare bones. Hopefully we get to see them both in action sooner rather than later.

Overall as you have pointed out the signings haven’t been that bad but it feels like we needed a couple more in them attacking positions. Letting Apter go seems a ridiculous decision as he’s good enough to be in the first team and potentially a starter.

There is a lot of negativity on this board which I get but what’s done is done, we need to back the 11 on the pitch and get behind them. Oh and hopefully Critch ditches the way he has set us out and plays players in the their best positions and in formation that gives us the best chance of playing to our strengths.

 

[A_Tense_Grin]

He's 33 and been on the decline for years and yet still drawing a pay packet. What is he going to prove and why now after declining for years?

People relying on goals from Rhodes will be very disappointed in my opinion.

 

[Victorsponge]

Unless we follow the Karl model of free agents, who will come grovelling back for less wages because they didn’t get fixed up.

Ohhh you mean the January transfer window?
You are funny!!!

 

[rememberlesshannon]

Ohhh you mean the January transfer window?
You are funny!!!

Eh ?

 

[Victorsponge]

Eh ?

To think we'll buy someone in January

 

[JJpool]

The honest answer is based on stats our recruitment is disjointed and imbalanced. Does it serve our needs? We won't know about Joseph until probably November at the earliest and you can't rush him back because it will be heavier pitches and thus more prone to inducing injuries. Yes a couple of players do seem decent but the rest either have lost their way, or aged into relevant insignificance. We've not put the odds in our favour for promotion with our recruitment or addressed our weaknesses as a team in an effective manner.

I did say I hoped we've added another attacking option that was just to be announced today...

But I think some of those signings are pretty good.

I've also said I'd like to see more evidence of the model when we sell players that we thrn reinvest in maybe 3 others for tye majority of that cash, as that's the model and we thrn go again and hope to sell them one day and do the same.

I think one issue is the setup, in many ways, so far.

For one it's not allowed us to see the qualities of the players we have seen, nor our own players we have.

Secondly it's meant we haven't signed as many wingers as we would have done.

The window started well, seems to have ended on a bit of a disappointment, but we do have some quality and people that have done well at this level, if we play them right and get it out of them that is.

Joseph being out is definitely affecting things as having that extra striker in there would change the perception a bit and be helping us out uo top.

 

[Matesrates]

I did say I hoped we've added another attacking option that was just to be announced today...

But I think some of those signings are pretty good.

I've also said I'd like to see more evidence of the model when we sell players that we thrn reinvest in maybe 3 others for tye majority of that cash, as that's the model and we thrn go again and hope to sell them one day and do the same.

I think one issue is the setup, in many ways, so far.

For one it's not allowed us to see the qualities of the players we have seen, nor our own players we have.

Secondly it's meant we haven't signed as many wingers as we would have done.

The window started well, seems to have ended on a bit of a disappointment, but we do have some quality and people that have done well at this level, if we play them right and get it out of them that is.

Joseph being out is definitely affecting things as having that extra striker in there would change the perception a bit and be helping us out uo top.

I think we were all pleased with the early signings and we were optimistic about promotion. Then we discovered that Critchley was playing a defensive system and players out of position, and he has continued to do this, despite poor performances and comments by fans. I hope he changes it today, but I’m not holding my breath.

 

[Yarmouth Seasider]

I can only say I'm bitterly disappointed with our inaction on deadline day, it was glaring obvious we needed someone fresh up front.
To see Cosgrove go to Barnsley for nothing and Clarke-Harris apparently to Bristol Rovers for 800k+ is a real slap in the face. Most of our incoming have been free, just one reasonable outlay ( nothing ridiculous) would have made an enormous difference to the fans that put their hands in their pockets, week in, week out.

Lose today and I think things are going to get a little unpleasant, and it shouldn't be that way so early in the season.

Edit to add, I hear that Bristol ran out of time to sign Clarke-Harris, it still doesn't alter the fact we have shown very little ambition at the final hurdle (that we know about, of course, the silence being deafening).

 

[Hazi]

We announced Dale and Tharme the day after.

However, doesn’t sound like that’ll be the case.

Remember announcing Wes as the team was announced at the game. Was it Wigan away ? Old age, one of my fave Pool memories though

 

[Davepick]

Maybe Critch is actually happy with what he's got?
Might be thinking that he can make a reasonable team with the current players?

 

[JJpool]

I think we were all pleased with the early signings and we were optimistic about promotion. Then we discovered that Critchley was playing a defensive system and players out of position, and he has continued to do this, despite poor performances and comments by fans. I hope he changes it today, but I’m not holding my breath.

But that points to, mainly, a disappointment in the application of the existing players and any new ones we've seen so far, rather than a quality issue.

So it's more on the manager than the club, as it appears there's a certain amount of quality there. Maybe not quite as much as everyone wanted and given the style, that plays a part in that if we're not really playing wingers.

It is disappointing though that we didn't get another over the line and it doesn't appear we've reinvested the bulk of the money we get in. That may not be the case but it doesn't seem like it, like the model we expected.

 

[JJpool]

Remember announcing Wes as the team was announced at the game. Was it Wigan away ? Old age, one of my fave Pool memories though

I was living in hope that this was the case that it would be announced today, as has happened in the past a few times where it was announced around 11am, but seems not. The at the game thing would make no sense.

If we have signed someone you get it out there and it encourages positivity and more will attend.

With letting Apter go you'd think a suitable replacement was acquired, maybe that is Dembele, or maybe not.

 

[JJpool]

I thought we were ok considering, lavery back soon and Joseph later on.

Rhodes is looking pretty good.

Suddenly then we look alright.

 

[JJpool]

Kouassi looks decent in that small stint, but the main things are he's a unit and a lot taller that it was made out. Probably 6 foot ish.

Dembele looks very good, link play, tricky, 1 touch football, fast, intelligent.

Brilliant from Albie Morgan for the goal, that flick over their players head, the perfect touch to ensure the ball was rolling and the playing in the perfect weighted pass for Kouassi to finish.

As said at the time, the players we've brought in seem of good quality tbh.

 

[voyeur]

Maybe Morgan could solve the problem right wing position?

 

[OhhhBarryBarry!]

Kouassi looks decent in that small stint, but the main things are he's a unit and a lot taller that it was made out. Probably 6 foot ish.

That's exactly what I was thinking when he came on. Wiki has Dom Thompson at 6ft and Kouassi at 5ft 9. Stood next to each other celebrating his goal, Kouassi looked quite a bit taller.

Goes to show what a load of shit wiki is anyway, and can obviously be edited by anyone. It has Lavery as 5ft 11.

 

[Born tangerine]

The best signing so far for me has to be Oliver Casey, what a season he's having. Obviously the season out on loan has done him the world of good.
He's been given a chance and he has taken it with both hands.
Well done. Oliver

 

[April13th1970]

That's exactly what I was thinking when he came on. Wiki has Dom Thompson at 6ft and Kouassi at 5ft 9. Stood next to each other celebrating his goal, Kouassi looked quite a bit taller

He's only a young lad, maybe he's grown a bit

 

[OhhhBarryBarry!]

He's only a young lad, maybe he's grown a bit

Maybe there's still time for Lavery to reach 5ft 11

 

[JJpool]

That's exactly what I was thinking when he came on. Wiki has Dom Thompson at 6ft and Kouassi at 5ft 9. Stood next to each other celebrating his goal, Kouassi looked quite a bit taller.

Goes to show what a load of shit wiki is anyway, and can obviously be edited by anyone. It has Lavery as 5ft 11.

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Yeah Thompson is not 6 foot he looks small compared to most.

Here he is with Gabriel.

Kouassi...


Casey meant to be 6'2.

Definitely bigger than Thompson.


Maybe this is the best pic to use as all stood straight in that row...

 

[voyeur]

Still too early to assess our signings properly I think, with us struggling to get a functioning system. Norburn has been hampered by the issues in central defence but we know what he is. Morgan has been hampered by a lack of clarity in his role. Not sure where his best position is, but a few good signs. That assist last night might suggest he's a wide option. Weir looked very promising on Saturday in central mid. Pennington looks a good addition. Rhodes is one game. Kouassi half an hour. Both look capable off those cameos but neither looks lightning quick. But hard to judge Kouassi at all off last night. Joseph had a promising 20 minutes at Derby but Derby made us look like Real Madrid. I'm also wary of judging Dembele off last night. Good signs but a League One game is a very different challenge.

 

[Devonshire]

We have a very good squad for this division ok a few key injuries are not helping, but the problem as I see it is not being positive enough, don’t lose a match rather than go and win it, my fear is this approach with lots of draws will cost us come the end of the season. However I hope NC learns as I have us down to win the league

 

[JJpool]

Still too early to assess our signings properly I think, with us struggling to get a functioning system. Norburn has been hampered by the issues in central defence but we know what he is. Morgan has been hampered by a lack of clarity in his role. Not sure where his best position is, but a few good signs. That assist last night might suggest he's a wide option. Weir looked very promising on Saturday in central mid. Pennington looks a good addition. Rhodes is one game. Kouassi half an hour. Both look capable off those cameos but neither looks lightning quick. But hard to judge Kouassi at all off last night. Joseph had a promising 20 minutes at Derby but Derby made us look like Real Madrid. I'm also wary of judging Dembele off last night. Good signs but a League One game is a very different challenge.

The aim of this thread, at the time, was to assess the signings based off what was known, not a hindsight view as the club doesn't get that.

It was to make the point withe people we signed had good quality it seemed and people were happy when they signed, not that they were bad players because we lost a game and couldn't score for a couple.

At the time people were very disappointed with no deadline day signings, but the point was we have still made good additions for the right reasons with the ones we have got in.

You never actually know just how someone will fit here and adapt etc.

But based on what they've done before and the little we've seen of the new lads, there looks to be some decent quality, so props to the club for that.

It's also still been early days and takes time for anyone new to settle and show what they can do.

The club has to make calculated gambles, not blind as they've scouted, studied the players etc, but blind as to how they'll do and fit with us. It just seemed a bit hypocritical for some to be happy with them when they arrived yet moaned about them when it wasn't going as well, when it was more the style not working.

 

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The aim of this thread, at the time, was to assess the signings based off what was known, not a hindsight view as the club doesn't get that.

It was to make the point withe people we signed had good quality it seemed and people were happy when they signed, not that they were bad players because we lost a game and couldn't score for a couple.

At the time people were very disappointed with no deadline day signings, but the point was we have still made good additions for the right reasons with the ones we have got in.

You never actually know just how someone will fit here and adapt etc.

But based on what they've done before and the little we've seen of the new lads, there looks to be some decent quality, so props to the club for that.

It's also still been early days and takes time for anyone new to settle and show what they can do.

The club has to make calculated gambles, not blind as they've scouted, studied the players etc, but blind as to how they'll do and fit with us. It just seemed a bit hypocritical for some to be happy with them when they arrived yet moaned about them when it wasn't going as well, when it was more the style not working.

Sure. Not disagreeing just commenting in the now.