Attendance for efl trophy

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SouthernSeasider

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I wonder if these will now start to increase if we get decent draws in quarters and hopefully semis?

Bolton in the Semi at home for example would surely give us much more than the current 2,000 - I would predict about 8,000 particularly if Wembley was at stake.

The tournament is crap but I would agree my interest is going up in it as we progress
 
SouthernSeasider said:
I wonder if these will now start to increase if we get decent draws in quarters and hopefully semis?

Bolton in the Semi at home for example would surely give us much more than the current 2,000 - I would predict about 8,000 particularly if Wembley was at stake.

The tournament is crap but I would agree my interest is going up in it as we progress
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Bolton took 2,346 to Accy tonight in a 3,441 crowd that’s some support for a Micky mouse trophy you have to say.
 
I hope we'd take a similar number to a game 16 miles away. Hopefully we don't draw Brighton u-21s away.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Bolton took 2,346 to Accy tonight in a 3,441 crowd that’s some support for a Micky mouse trophy you have to say.
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They've got a taste for the competition after last time.

We've seen many poor home attendances for even bigger clubs like Derby, with less than Bolton took away.

For many it just isn't an interest, that will change as club progress and have a chance at Wembley and winning something.
 
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The competition, in what ever name and format it's been run over the years, has always gone like this. Not unusual to see a crowd of below a thousand in the early stages, and interest gradually building as you progress. I remember the year we should have got to the final and got gypped by Bolton - I was trying to think the other day of the other games involved. I remember going to Halifax and I think home to Scarborough - we took a fair few to the Shay to say it was the first knockout round. By the time we played Bolton the crowd sizes were same as a good league derby gate.

I'm also interested in what happens to the team selection if we progress. At this stage it still gives the whole squad a game, say we made the final stages - does Critch stick with squad players or go with the first team?
 
CGP1 said:
The competition, in what ever name and format it's been run over the years, has always gone like this. Not unusual to see a crowd of below a thousand in the early stages, and interest gradually building as you progress. I remember the year we should have got to the final and got gypped by Bolton - I was trying to think the other day of the other games involved. I remember going to Halifax and I think home to Scarborough - we took a fair few to the Shay to say it was the first knockout round. By the time we played Bolton the crowd sizes were same as a good league derby gate.

I'm also interested in what happens to the team selection if we progress. At this stage it still gives the whole squad a game, say we made the final stages - does Critch stick with squad players or go with the first team?
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Stick with players we are currently using
Back from injury, fringe, U21 players
Yesterday showed a fit Virtue is as good as most midfielders in L1 and Tashan has potential. Lavery when fit is, a real handful.
Also Dale should be given a new contract.
Having said that the financial considerations of progressing beyond this stage should be factored in.
 
Yes I don't disagree with you ATG. And I don't know anyone who doesn't regard it as a pointless pain in the ace - at the early stages.

But get into the territory we now have a chance of, and all that disappears for the handful of teams each year who make it.
 
Tangy, I guess I have in mind two imagined possibilities, if we made the final.

We play Rhodes, Dembele, CJ, Jim Hub, Marv, Dougall, Pennington - have one of our struggle out of first gear days and get mullered. We'd just be debating about formations, tactics, pace of our play, laboured build up etc.

Or we play the starting 11 from last night and get mullered. The debate would then focus on did we pick a strong enough team for the occasion.
 
CGP1 said:
The competition, in what ever name and format it's been run over the years, has always gone like this. Not unusual to see a crowd of below a thousand in the early stages, and interest gradually building as you progress. I remember the year we should have got to the final and got gypped by Bolton - I was trying to think the other day of the other games involved. I remember going to Halifax and I think home to Scarborough - we took a fair few to the Shay to say it was the first knockout round. By the time we played Bolton the crowd sizes were same as a good league derby gate.

I'm also interested in what happens to the team selection if we progress. At this stage it still gives the whole squad a game, say we made the final stages - does Critch stick with squad players or go with the first team?
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Yes I remember that game at Halifax, couldn't believe how many Pool turned up.
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
That's it's only purpose and therefore will never capture the attention of the public. Even if we got to Wembley, I doubt we would take much more than 10k.
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You are chatting nonsense. I would put 2 grand on that we'd get well over 10k, more than double. If not 20 to 25k Blackpool fans at Wembley.

In my lifetime we have never taken that sort of figure to a final outside of boycotts, stupid statement.
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
That's it's only purpose and therefore will never capture the attention of the public. Even if we got to Wembley, I doubt we would take much more than 10k.
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Mr negative again.
I would bet my house on it that we take more than 10K
We are not all part time fans who sit by the keyboard nearly every game.

Previous Northern finals have drawn big crowds at Blackpool.
 
SeasideKurt said:
You are chatting nonsense. I would put 2 grand on that we'd get well over 10k, more than double. If not 20 to 25k Blackpool fans at Wembley.

In my lifetime we have never taken that sort of figure to a final outside of boycotts, stupid statement.
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Never in million years would we get close to 25k for a tinpot cup. Even in the old LDV days we only took 13k. Granted Wembley is easier to get to and more prestigious but can't see it making a massive difference now.

Maybe my suggestion was low - 15k tops.
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
Never in million years would we get close to 25k for a tinpot cup. Even in the old LDV days we only took 13k. Granted Wembley is easier to get to and more prestigious but can't see it making a massive difference now.

Maybe my suggestion was low - 15k tops.
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When we played Southend in 2004 the attendance was 34k and we took far more than Southend.
15k bare minimum. I’d say 18,000 - 22,000 may not be a lot of love for the competition but a day out at Wembley for our clubs fans isn’t to be sniffed at and it’s a while since many got the opportunity to go
 
CGP1 said:
I'm also interested in what happens to the team selection if we progress. At this stage it still gives the whole squad a game, say we made the final stages - does Critch stick with squad players or go with the first team?
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If he wants to win it then he should stick with the squad players as they are a better team.
 
Never let the opportunity for a Pool trip to Wembley pass by, you never know when we could get there again.

I was 27 before I saw us play at Wembley in 91. Never did I imagine that I would see us at the old twin towers.

As a club we have been spoilt with finals over the last 20yrs.

For many it could be their last, but for a lot it could be their first.

The ldv / Freight Rover / Johnson pizza finals over recent seasons has seen 80000+ gates.

I've always considered this to be the lower leagues FA Cup. We've won it 2 times and it's given me some memories along the way.
I can still see that Coughlin penalty sailing over the Normid co-op. Remember turning up for a midweek group game at Gigg Lane in a Lancaster tranny van only to find it was called off. We went to Deepdung, probably more Pool in the away end than Lincoln who were playing there that night...

You just know we are going to get drawn v Horwich.
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
Never in million years would we get close to 25k for a tinpot cup. Even in the old LDV days we only took 13k. Granted Wembley is easier to get to and more prestigious but can't see it making a massive difference now.

Maybe my suggestion was low - 15k tops.
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We didn't take 13k to any final in my lifetime. It's been over 20k for every visit.
 
The equivalent competition gave us some great days out as a club and was the start of our recovery under McMahon if I remember correctly. Not to be sniffed at if we get a semi- or final place. What's not to like?
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
Never in million years would we get close to 25k for a tinpot cup. Even in the old LDV days we only took 13k. Granted Wembley is easier to get to and more prestigious but can't see it making a massive difference now.

Maybe my suggestion was low - 15k tops.
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Wouldn’t be any fans going if they were all like you!
Nothing better than your team reaching a final at Wembley and I’ll certainly be there with my grandkids should it happen.
We‘re not Man City or Liverpool so the occasion doesn’t happen that often so there will be thousands of Pool fans there - 20k plus if it’s against Bolton Wanderers
 
SeasideKurt said:
We didn't take 13k to any final in my lifetime. It's been over 20k for every visit.
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You can't have been to too many finals then. We took 13-15k to all the finals at the Millenium stadium.

The play off finals and two LDV finals at the Millenium Stadium were around 14k. Even prior to that at the old Wembley against Scunthorpe and Torquay it was around 12k.

It was only against Yeovil at the new Wembley where it shot with around 29k going.
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
You can't have been to too many finals then. We took 13-15k to all the finals at the Millenium stadium.

The play off finals and two LDV finals at the Millenium Stadium were around 14k. Even prior to that at the old Wembley against Scunthorpe and Torquay it was around 12k.

It was only against Yeovil at the new Wembley where it shot with around 29k going.
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We would take 20k and more to a final if we got there.
 
SeasideKurt said:
You are chatting nonsense. I would put 2 grand on that we'd get well over 10k, more than double. If not 20 to 25k Blackpool fans at Wembley.

In my lifetime we have never taken that sort of figure to a final outside of boycotts, stupid statement.
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In 1991 we took about 15,000 when we had gates of around 3,500. Agreed.
 
Didn't go to the other two finals and wouldn't go to this one. I did go to Halifax and Bolton away in the 80s but the competition is a joke. The crowd last night showed that. If you didn't go last night and your salivating about going to Wembley then your a bit of a glory hunter aren't you?
For me it's a complete waste of time and money. It's got to mean something and quite frankly it means nothing.
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
You can't have been to too many finals then. We took 13-15k to all the finals at the Millenium stadium.

The play off finals and two LDV finals at the Millenium Stadium were around 14k. Even prior to that at the old Wembley against Scunthorpe and Torquay it was around 12k.nal agai
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A_Tense_Grin said:
It was only against Yeovil at the new Wembley where it shot with around 29k goifushung
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Splitting hairs but 16k went to the Div3 final against Leyton Orient. LDV vans I can’t think how many against Cambridge but as mentioned over half of the 34K attendance vs Southend. You have a pop at others for been too half full but then find anyway to downplay everything Blackpool.

there’s a difference between been realistic and fishing for arguments
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
They really should scrap it. The integrity of it was ruined when they added the under 21 teams.
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Do you ever see a positive in anything.

It's competitive football for players who aren't getting much first team action, keeping them interested and ready for if they're needed.
It also brings in revenue to the club in the form of prize money.
 
It’s been my favourite competition so far and the only one we’ve got a chance of being successful in I hope we make it to Wembley
 
Ginge 2 said:
Do you ever see a positive in anything.

It's competitive football for players who aren't getting much first team action, keeping them interested and ready for if they're needed.
It also brings in revenue to the club in the form of prize money.
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Get a grip. It's a pathetic competition that no one cares about hence the attendances.
 
Wizaard said:
We'd take around 20,000, in my opinion. We have close to 9,000 STHs, so well on the way if they all bring a mate.
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I am a season ticket holder and assuming the final will be televised ,there is no way I would go to London to watch a tinpot final . I think we will be lucky to get 10,000
 
Loco said:
What's the point of bothering to be a 'supporter' if you can't enjoy going to a cup final?
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Where do you draw the limit? Under 18s final? Academy finals? This is about the same level. Ever since they made it about the under 21 teams and the Premier League, fans should boycott it or at least respect those see it as nothing more than a few reserve matches.
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
Where do you draw the limit? Under 18s final? Academy finals? This is about the same level. Ever since they made it about the under 21 teams and the Premier League, fans should boycott it or at least respect those see it as nothing more than a few reserve matches.
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If they are representing Blackpool FC in a cup final then supporters should support them. The youth team had decent support when they did well in the FA Youth cup. Some of us were proud of their efforts.
 
Loco said:
If they are representing Blackpool FC in a cup final then supporters should support them. The youth team had decent support when they did well in the FA Youth cup. Some of us were proud of their efforts.
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I'd just find it difficult to support the competition by showing that level of interest.

I'd think about going to a play off final at Wembley.
 
CGP1 said:
Yes I don't disagree with you ATG. And I don't know anyone who doesn't regard it as a pointless pain in the ace - at the early stages.

But get into the territory we now have a chance of, and all that disappears for the handful of teams each year who make it.
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Even in early stages it gives U21 and fringe players competitive matches and allows supporters to see young players who may have a future in the game.
Supporting BFC should not be restrictive to the matchday squad
 
Loco said:
What's the point of bothering to be a 'supporter' if you can't enjoy going to a cup final?
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I have been to nearly all play off finals and both LDV finals too ,but now I am a pensioner and the prices they charge at Wembley , I could not afford it ,even if I wanted too. This does not make me any less of a supporter then when I was being chased by Bolton fans down central drive. When we played Torquey and Scunthorpe in the early play off finals ,there was barely 20,000 fans altogether never mind 20,000 Blackpool fans . Anyway we will see ,if we get to the final , but I would expect to just about clear 10,000 maybe 12, 000 ,but I may be proved wrong.
 
I enjoyed the last playoff final and there was only 4000 of us there so don’t suppose we’ll miss all the miserable gits if we get there this time
 
PNENIL said:
Didn't go to the other two finals and wouldn't go to this one. I did go to Halifax and Bolton away in the 80s but the competition is a joke. The crowd last night showed that. If you didn't go last night and your salivating about going to Wembley then your a bit of a glory hunter aren't you?
For me it's a complete waste of time and money. It's got to mean something and quite frankly it means nothing.
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Whatever final Blackpool was in I'd go to.. it's a great day out with family and mates.. it's got to be better than sitting at home in the rain in Blackpool or wherever..
 
Only missed one ,that was Scunthorpe being due to holidays ,hope we get there this year ,even though i can't be there you guys should go and represent the mighty tangerines( we have the best recent year record for appearances) in these type of finals, come on lets beat whatever is put before us to get there and WIN.
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
They really should scrap it. The integrity of it was ruined when they added the under 21 teams.
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I've always had the feeling that as soon as an under 21 team gets to the final, that'll be end of that. Thus far I don't think any of them have come close, and so they haven't really denied a '"proper" team a chance at silverware, so I can't say it bothers me too much them being there.
For one it offers a bit of variety in opposition rather than basically the kind of teams we see week in week out. There's something that intrigues me a bit more about Liverpool U21 on a Tuesday night than Burton or something
Either way it's always going to be the cup everyone cares about the least, so why not make it a bit different
 
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