Ben Mansford

Trammo said:
Being unlikeable has never held back Baz from succeeding - he is now the chief spud peeler in a pie and mash gaff in Millwall.
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I'll get round to peeling you in due course, don't worry.

Going back to the OP, I'm not a fan of these "I've heard from X" threads - if you have something to say, take ownership of it. And if you were trying to needle BM - he doesn't actually read AVFTT. šŸ˜€
 
Mr Sadler will want to see the cash heā€™s putting into the club spent wisely and effectively, to get value for money.
There may be times when his love for the club and the town get the better of him, when sentiment threatens to take over.

If I was him, Iā€™d want senior management to challenge me, to make a hard headed argument and to be (judiciously) ruthless when merited.
If BM fulfils that function, itā€™ll be to the clubā€™s benefit.
 
Well we have a few more positive posts to balance the thread, I hope all is good especially when you consider the big wages SS is paying him.
 
Toastrack said:
Mr Sadler will want to see the cash heā€™s putting into the club spent wisely and effectively, to get value for money.
There may be times when his love for the club and the town get the better of him, when sentiment threatens to take over.

If I was him, Iā€™d want senior management to challenge me, to make a hard headed argument and to be (judiciously) ruthless when merited.
If BM fulfils that function, itā€™ll be to the clubā€™s benefit.
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Very good point and this was one of the major flaws in the way both Karl and Owen worked, from those I know who worked for them. Constantly surrounded by yes men and women, never challenged and only their way was the right way. When you add that to a propensity for financial skullduggery and the fact they were both complete and utter sh1thouses then we all understand why things happened as they did.
 
He's a very capable and professional operator and was the only man who really stood up to Cellino, and helped bring in Garry Monk who turned the club's fortunes round for a while.
Said it before but you're very lucky to have him.
 
We were well behind most other clubsā€™ basic start points. BM has turned us into a professional set up in very little time. I think thatā€™s key, as well as having to deal with this pandemic. I think weā€™ve got a real asset at BFC. The nicey nicey community stuff and comms can follow imo.
 
Rektseasider said:
This is bang on. Iā€™ve heard heā€™s ruffled more than a few feathers during his time with us, but look at the results heā€™s now getting.

Reading between the lines I think BM initially struggled getting back into the English game. But heā€™s a very intelligent bloke by all accounts, the current offseason only highlights that for me.
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I am totally with the judge him on his performance and not personality and agree with just about all you say

BUT

I am interested to know more about the "results he's now getting".

That is not to say I think he's useless and that he won't be successful in the future, I am just struggling to see the results that people talk of.
 
I know most speak in jest but I am not sure what the fact that he is better - or will prove to be - than Karl Oyston has got to do with the price of fish ?

I have no reason to believe that he won't be successful for us and look forward to him being so but I can't understand why so many are crowning him before he is king.

I hope that is not based on his superiority to Koko.
 
The thing I mainly notice from Ben is, and iā€™m not being over critical is that he has all the buzz words, cliches etc, and says all the right things publicly.... but itā€™s about getting the job done, which he seems to be doing alright atšŸ‘ Itā€™s not a popularity contest šŸ˜Ž
 
So long as he does his job I really don't care. As for the comment about a member of staff and BM, just because that person doesn't seemingly have a good relationship with him doesn't prove anything.
 
Cleveleys boy said:
Ben rung my mate during lockdown (who had to stay indoors for 12 weeks) to see how he was getting on and he was telling him Blackpool fc's plans for the future....My mate said he was spot on and was buzzing after the phonecall šŸ‘Œ
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Sums what is now going on at the club, our club, for me šŸ‘šŸ¼ Oh and Iā€™ve met Ben twice and both times heā€™s been very pleasant.
 
Good to see we have moved on,have we got rid of sll the oyston hanger ons from their era. How's it going on getting them out of the penthouse and offices.
 
todayistheday said:
Good to see we have moved on,have we got rid of sll the oyston hanger ons from their era. How's it going on getting them out of the penthouse and offices.
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Still ongoing I believe. Remember those dodgy leases that they made up for themselves before they were ousted from the club?
 
Raging_Bull said:
TTG, firstly let me say I have no dealings with the guy personally so it's not a case of me slating the guy or getting on anyone's back.

It's just some feedback I've had off more than one person who has had dealings and the feedback is not good (as Limerick alluded to as well).

Anyone else one way or the other? (Note the opportunity to give positive feedback if deemed worthy)
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Wannabe manager from what Iā€™ve heard.
 
If Sadler ever comes to the conclusion that heā€™s a knob then we will know about it fairly quickly thereafter. Cards collected and on we go. Until then we must trust in Sadler and his judgement on upper level personnel.
 
Funny how all of a sudden the guy is supposedly obnoxious. Now that is all rumour and conjecture. All "I've been told" and from a mate etc.

Which is all well and good but this is also the same person who was near enough idolized at his previous club. Maccabi Tel Aviv in Israel, where everyone thought he was wonderful. And that isn't rumour, conjecture or from a mate. Watch the videos from his time in Israel. The staff, players and fans loved him.

edited to add: his final match in Tel Aviv, fans even chanted his name, that is how much they loved him. A bloody CEO. This is the same guy who is so obnoxious?
 
Hevster said:
I've met Ben M a couple of times, one briefly and once for long enough to have a chat. On both occasions he was perfectly decent and happy to chat with us. One of the occasions was a small service we had to lay a friends ashes in the ground - Mark Chandler, who I'm sure some of you know. His family had held off laying his ashes to rest for a long time until the Oystons had gone, because those of you who knew Mark would know in what regard he held the Oystons and they just couldn't do it.

I know from the family that Ben M helped out in getting it all arranged and it was very well handled. He was around following the service to make a point of talking with the family and ensuring everything was as they wanted. He didn't have to do that but it made us all feel the club had taken a genuine interest.

I suspect that a lot of this is the 'new broom' factor as others are saying. There will be long standing staff who perhaps don't like the shake up that is necessary to get the club working well as a business off the pitch. That is natural. As a supporter I'm looking longer term at the off pitch becoming strong and sustainable, and accept there may be some disruption.

As long as it isn't a complete tyranny, which I don't believe it is from what I hear, then Ben M has the calibre of CV and past success to make me feel we did well to get him. And my admitted limited personal experience suggests he is a good bloke to get the business on a better footing for us as supporters.
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End of thread.
 
What makes me laugh about this thread is that imagine three years ago as we we'd just been dumped in to League Two, the Oyston's grip on the club seemed tight, there was talk of us having to form a new club, ticket sales and interest in the club were plummeting and we were all looking for a miracle. If you'd been offered what we have today, would you really have said 'I'm not happy because I hear the CEO is a bit obnoxious'!!
 
WiltsSeasider said:
Says me, says his stellar reputation at bigger clubs than Blackpool.
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Says fan who has never worked with said person or has never worked at said football clubs...alright then...it must be the case.

Not claiming he is good, bad or indifferent, all Iā€™m going off is what people who work at the club have told me.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
I am totally with the judge him on his performance and not personality and agree with just about all you say

BUT

I am interested to know more about the "results he's now getting".

That is not to say I think he's useless and that he won't be successful in the future, I am just struggling to see the results that people talk of.
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Well when he came in the club was really all over the place.

We as fans think back to the time after the Oystons left as a euphoric period in our clubs history, and rightly so.

However behind the scenes it was a complete mess still, all down to the Os. There was a mountain to climb on and off the pitch.

As I said BM struggled to get up to speed initially, but when you consider he had to move continents I think thatā€™s a fair excuse.

After a kick up the arse in the managerial appointment he (along with SS) seem to have picked us a goodun.

The line I got was, ā€œheā€™s professionalised every aspect of the clubā€. Which is something Blackpool FC hasnā€™t seen since god only knows.

Which leads to my point that the results we re now seeing are, players generally leaving at a time that suits the club, often for fees. The players that have left have only good things to say.

The club was able to effectively navigate the tricky course of Covid in terms of staffing, financial stability and player recruitment that I imagine no other FL club has. This has not come from SS merely pumping money in, BMs know how definitely played a big part.

Like I said it largely came from BM professionalising everything, to maximising profits from every angle ie. the club shop and player sales over the last 12 months.

Lastly the biggest result he is achieving is the incoming players for this season. Again coming back to the start of the post, the club was a complete mess at the end of Oystons, the result on the pitch was a scattergun signing approach. SS and BM sat down and worked on what an effective Transfer committee would look like.

BM drove and implemented that, with help from NC and his staff we re now seeing the results.
 
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TangerinePeel said:
Great video that, the fact they commemorated a CEO like that must say something about him.

I look forward to the future, where we ourselves are able to give people who have served our club notably a proper send off and thanks. There was a complete lack of that under the Oyston regime.
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Exactly. I fail to see how someone this popular, where the fans even chant his name, is now all of a sudden supposedly so obnoxious. The difference is that this is fact in this video, whereas the comments about him at BFC is hearsay. And even if some employees don't like him that still proves nothing.
 
Bispham_Seasider said:
Exactly. I fail to see how someone this popular, where the fans even chant his name, is now all of a sudden supposedly so obnoxious. The difference is that this is fact in this video, whereas the comments about him at BFC is hearsay. And even if some employees don't like him that still proves nothing.
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If he's so perfect why is he here at a relatively tin pot club?
 
Rektseasider said:
Well when he came in the club was really all over the place.

We as fans think back to the time after the Oystons left as a euphoric period in our clubs history, and rightly so.

However behind the scenes it was a complete mess still, all down to the Os. There was a mountain to climb on and off the pitch.

As I said BM struggled to get up to speed initially, but when you consider he had to move continents I think thatā€™s a fair excuse.

After a kick up the arse in the managerial appointment he (along with SS) seem to have picked us a goodun.

The line I got was, ā€œheā€™s professionalised every aspect of the clubā€. Which is something Blackpool FC hasnā€™t seen since god only knows.

Which leads to my point that the results we re now seeing are, players generally leaving at a time that suits the club, often for fees. The players that have left have only good things to say.

The club was able to effectively navigate the tricky course of Covid in terms of staffing, financial stability and player recruitment that I imagine no other FL club has. This has not come from SS merely pumping money in, BMs know how definitely played a big part.

Like I said it largely came from BM professionalising everything, to maximising profits from every angle ie. the club shop and player sales over the last 12 months.

Lastly the biggest result he is achieving is the incoming players for this season. Again coming back to the start of the post, the club was a complete mess at the end of Oystons, the result on the pitch was a scattergun signing approach. SS and BM sat down and worked on what an effective Transfer committee would look like.

BM drove and implemented that, with help from NC and his staff we re now seeing the results.
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I have absolutely no doubt that Mansford is more able than Karl Oyston and that the club is more professional now than it was under the Oyston family but that is not really an achievement and I'd expect any professional to be able to improve on what the Oyston's left behind and to do so very quickly.

I have nothing against Mansford and certainly hope that he is successful but I have yet to see the results that you are now seeing.

To say that the club navigated the whole covid thing better than any club in the football league is just a good soundbite and the financial stability that you talk of is down to Sadler's backing and not Mansford.

If Mansford has created alternative revenue streams then I'm certainly not aware of them.

As I said earlier on in the thread, it would appear that some are very keen to crown Mansford before he is king.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
I have absolutely no doubt that Mansford is more able than Karl Oyston and that the club is more professional now than it was under the Oyston family but that is not really an achievement and I'd expect any professional to be able to improve on what the Oyston's left behind and to do so very quickly.

I have nothing against Mansford and certainly hope that he is successful but I have yet to see the results that you are now seeing.

To say that the club navigated the whole covid thing better than any club in the football league is just a good soundbite and the financial stability that you talk of is down to Sadler's backing and not Mansford.

If Mansford has created alternative revenue streams then I'm certainly not aware of them.

As I said earlier on in the thread, it would appear that some are very keen to crown Mansford before he is king.
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Iā€™m not sure if youā€™ve actually read my answer but no where in that did I compare him to Karl.

Youā€™re trying to come back to me with points a few others have made.

Seems a bit odd to ask me something, when I give you an answer regarding the financial stability not being totally down to SS (which is from the horses mouth via a medium) and just dismiss it, is a bit bizarre.

I was actually quiet critical of him during the managerial search, as it really floundered at one point and showed his time away from English football had left gaps.

There are plenty of people out there that could have made a hash of rebuilding the club.

BM hasnā€™t, like I said heā€™s professionalised the club beyond all measure. That wasnā€™t a given, not a slight on them but look at the interim board, they were up against it, as BM was , but made a complete hash of signings and other things within the club Iā€™m not going to go into on here.

Look at Hevsters post I think I got the poster right? About how he handled the fans memorial.
 
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