Better off now or under Appleton?

Would we have had more points now under Appleton or McCarthy?

  • Appleton

    Votes: 57 50.0%

  • McCarthy

    Votes: 8 7.0%

  • Appleton but we'd still be going down

    Votes: 50 43.9%
  • Total voters
    114
Appleton was marginally better and also had less players available at the time..would definitely at least have had a goā€¦.
Donā€™t forget someone has actually interviewed and employed McCarthy ā€¦šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļøā€¦šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø
 
Appleton got better results than MM without the players he desperately needed, he got them players then got sacked and replaced with a manager who had no use for said players. Appletons successor should have been chosen who was capable of working with the players we had and should have sacked before the international break otherwise had the full season. He should have never been given the job in the first place in my opinion, But we had little option and had not planned Critchs successor. Catalogue of errors by those in charge.
 
Some feat by the Board to appoint a man who is no better than the one they sacked. Also a man who has no interest in the club or anything to lose if we go down. He had 2 weeks to work in training and came up with that team & 1st half performance.

Nothing to lose now in asking Charlie boy and Dobbie to take last 7 games. Has SS got the balls to make that call?
 
weā€™d have been better off with a better appointment. I think weā€™d have been equally shite with both of them.
 
Appleton, I think you can at least make excuses for, the board screwed up recruitment badly over the summer and key players missed a lot of his time here, McCarthy, not so much.
 
Appleton showed himself to be absolutely clueless but appointing McCarthy was an act of absolute recklessness. To give it a medical analogy it's like being diagnosed with cancer and thinking the cure is frequent dips in the cooling pools at sellafield.
 
Appleton was clueless and shouldnā€™t have been appointed in the first place. He had a chance and messed it up and should have been sacked after losing at Wigan. We went into the bottom 3 then and havenā€™t been out since. This would have given a new, proper permanent, manager a free month to work with what he had and plan for a transfer window.

I could sort of see the logic in appointing McCarthy on a short term basis in the hope he could do what Warnock appears to be doing at Huddersfield but it hasnā€™t worked.

IMO we would be the same or worse with Appleton.
 
81 votes for Appleton! Versus only 7 for Mick!

Shows how clueless Mick must be when 81 prefer fukin Appleton! šŸ˜ šŸ¤£
 
It isn't really a fair comparison to compare stats, when Appleton took over the club we were comfortably a middle-table team championship club,

and he had nearly a full transfer window and a full preseason to work with the team, Mick has taken a team that was in the bottom three in

freefall without a win and under pressure. It also hasn't helped Mick that we have lost two of the players signed in the January transfer window

and Madine, Beasley, and Lavery.
 
Danny Ocean said:
It isn't really a fair comparison to compare stats, when Appleton took over the club we were comfortably a middle-table team championship club,

and he had nearly a full transfer window and a full preseason to work with the team, Mick has taken a team that was in the bottom three in

freefall without a win and under pressure. It also hasn't helped Mick that we have lost two of the players signed in the January transfer window

and Madine, Beasley, and Lavery.
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They live amongst us šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø
 
I wanted Appleton to stay but the atmosphere was toxic he was forced out, Sadler should of known what was to happen Mick is an even worse appointment we collectively have failed our club we should of stuck by Appleton
 
In hindsight, better off keeping Appleton. He wouldnā€™t have been my choice last summer, but we went for someone desperate to get back into work and who was out of work because he had a poor managerial record everywhere heā€™d been - bar one club.

TBH I wanted him out. But I didnā€™t anticipate theyā€™d go for MM. There arenā€™t too many worse than Appleton - but weā€™ve found one. If we stick with him, heā€™ll take us down for sure. Weā€™re already just about nailed on.

If we are not to drop further than the 3rd Division, the Board need to do a proper business plan. We say we want to mirror Brighton and Brentford, but at the moment I canā€™t see any plan. The next appointment is key. We need a manager with vision, passion and enthusiasm and someone who will take us back to the Championship. The 3rd Division is a hard division to get out of - upwardly anyway. We then need to back him with the rebuild because most of these present players wonā€™t be here next year.
 
Danny Ocean said:
It isn't really a fair comparison to compare stats, when Appleton took over the club we were comfortably a middle-table team championship club,

and he had nearly a full transfer window and a full preseason to work with the team, Mick has taken a team that was in the bottom three in

freefall without a win and under pressure. It also hasn't helped Mick that we have lost two of the players signed in the January transfer window

and Madine, Beasley, and Lavery.
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Our recruitment in the summer transfer window was a total disaster plus Bowler was sold, no blame for any of this can be attached to Appleton, John Stephenson was totally responsible for player recruitment and he has since been replaced by Chris Badlan before the Jan transfer window. The Jan transfer window was much better.

You mention the players not available, I am far more interested in the Players who are available but Mick refuses to consistently pick them in his starting X1 e.g. Bowler, Poveda, Patino, Fiorini and up until recently Rogers as well.

This is all beginning to look like a ā€œ what might have been season ā€œ if we kept Appleton for longer or had recruited a new Manager who was going to play to our strengths and was going to get the best out of the current squad which so far McCarthy has completely been unable or perhaps even unwilling to do. Mick has delivered just 2 wins and only 9 points from 12 League games and has lost all 7 of his away games. I believe this is entirely down to Mickā€™s team selections, playing style, formations, tactics and substitutions most of which are alien to the players and the fans alike.
 
Sad to say but I think with how shit everyone just above the relegation zone has been and the fact Appleton would have done everything to get a tune out of Bowler we would have won a few more games with him in charge.

Hindsight obviously but that might have been enough to keep us up.
 
I donā€™t think Appleton had lost the dressing room but MM certainly has so on reflection we would have been better keeping him on - but who knows!
Get rid of MM now and take a chance with our young coaching staff who hopefully will select our flair players and have a real go at the opposition in the final few games, shit or bust! Nothing to lose!
 
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