Blackpool declares Labour majority council

Incredibly one of the most deprived wards in the country, Waterloo, voted for a Tory 😳🙈

The boundary does take in a few more affluent areas so I'm assuming they could be arsed to vote but the people who it effects the most couldn't 🤷🏻‍♂️ I'm sure they will be the ones moaning as well.
 
HighfieldSeasider said:
Incredibly one of the most deprived wards in the country, Waterloo, voted for a Tory 😳🙈

The boundary does take in a few more affluent areas so I'm assuming they could be arsed to vote but the people who it effects the most couldn't 🤷🏻‍♂️ I'm sure they will be the ones moaning as well.
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The voter ID issue has stopped thousands of younger voters casting a vote.

Can anyone explain to me why student bus passes don't count, but pensioner ones do, when they're identical?

Other than pensioners being more likely to vote Tory of course...
 
Wizaard said:
The voter ID issue has stopped thousands of younger voters casting a vote.

Can anyone explain to me why student bus passes don't count, but pensioner ones do, when they're identical?

Other than pensioners being more likely to vote Tory of course...
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Unfortunately Wizzard, a hangover can stop younger voters turning out.
 
Labour might officially “support” Brexit for the moment; they don’t want to scare anyone. Opposition parties do not win general elections, governments lose them.

But if Labour wins the next GE I think we can expect a gradual rapprochement with the EU, with an aim for the UK to rejoin. Because Brexit has been a trading disaster, as we have been proven to be weak in influence and action. The Channel boats problem is just a minor symptom of this.

Unfortunately, any such application to rejoin will mean the EU will insist the UK adopts the Euro, allow multi-centre securities trading reducing London’s power, and the UK will lose our financial independence, forgoing all other advantages of our past semi-detached membership. We will become “another Greece” subject to the Deutschbank realpolitik. We had the best of both worlds and Cameron threw it down the toilet.

That is what Bozo, Sunak, Rees-Mogg, Cummings, Patel, Braverman (I could go on...) and their lying Brexit cohorts have condemned us to.
 
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Archibald Knox said:
Labour might officially “support” Brexit for the moment; they don’t want to scare anyone. Opposition parties do not win general elections, governments lose them.

But if Labour wins the next GE I think we can expect a gradual rapprochement with the EU, with an aim for the UK to rejoin. Because Brexit has been a trading disaster, as we have been proven to be weak in influence and action. The Channel boats problem is just a minor symptom of this.

Unfortunately, any such application to rejoin will mean the EU will insist the UK adopts the Euro, allow multi-centre securities trading reducing London’s power, and the UK will lose our financial independence, forgoing all other advantages of our past semi-detached membership. We will become “another Greece” subject to the Deutschbank realpolitik. We had the best of both worlds and Cameron threw it down the toilet.

That is what Bozo, Sunak, Rees-Mogg, Cummings, Braverman (I could go on...) and their lying Brexit cohorts have condemned us to.
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“Another Greece”

Greece has recovered by the way. The tourism sector is booming now after the Covid years and the financial meltdown.

Maybe the UK can recover with a Labour government 👍
 
Levi501 said:
Sadly all the sucked in saps who voted for Bozo and ‘Freedom’ from foreign influence, have now U turned as these local election results seem to be proving, what a costly mistake!
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That's not what a local election result indicates at all.

A lot voted cons to get brexit done... rather than it dragging on or overruling one of the biggest democratic votes.

The tories have made a mess of a lot of things, a lot people want them out as much as anything.

It's not that Labour are really any good.

Crappy political system leave many politically homeless.
 
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JJpool said:
That's not what a local election result indicates at all.

A lot voted cons to get brexit done... rather than it dragging on or overruling one of the biggest democratic votes.

The tories have made a mess of a lot of things, a lot people want them out as much as anything.

It's not that Labour are really any good.

Crappy political system leave many politically homeless.
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Imo, it’s a protest vote against years of Conservative mismanagement, what else could you put it down to? Also proves how naive and foolish voters have been to vote Johnson, the known liar and charlatan into power just to get “Brexit done” without thinking of the consequences on the domestic front.
 
Levi501 said:
Imo, it’s a protest vote against years of Conservative mismanagement, what else could you put it down to? Also proves how naive and foolish voters have been to vote Johnson, the known liar and charlatan into power just to get “Brexit done” without thinking of the consequences on the domestic front.
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There was hardly a credible alternative. Jeremy Corbyn with the likes of Diane 'the calculator' Abbot in a senior position at the time, was hardly appealing.

I actually think locally the labour council are doing some good things for Blackpool, some great projects and improvements ongoing.

So was happy with this local result.
 
Archibald Knox said:
Labour might officially “support” Brexit for the moment; they don’t want to scare anyone. Opposition parties do not win general elections, governments lose them.

But if Labour wins the next GE I think we can expect a gradual rapprochement with the EU, with an aim for the UK to rejoin. Because Brexit has been a trading disaster, as we have been proven to be weak in influence and action. The Channel boats problem is just a minor symptom of this.

Unfortunately, any such application to rejoin will mean the EU will insist the UK adopts the Euro, allow multi-centre securities trading reducing London’s power, and the UK will lose our financial independence, forgoing all other advantages of our past semi-detached membership. We will become “another Greece” subject to the Deutschbank realpolitik. We had the best of both worlds and Cameron threw it down the toilet.

That is what Bozo, Sunak, Rees-Mogg, Cummings, Braverman (I could go on...) and their lying Brexit cohorts have condemned us to.
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my thinking is along those lines, but I'd stop at rejoining. I don't think that would happen, not for 15 years at least.

I can see an economic union between the EU and UK, but a limited political joining.

It will cost the UK if they don't and I'm certain the EU will make sure it costs the UK if they do form an economic union.
 
fcblackpool said:
my thinking is along those lines, but I'd stop at rejoining. I don't think that would happen, not for 15 years at least.

I can see an economic union between the EU and UK, but a limited political joining.

It will cost the UK if they don't and I'm certain the EU will make sure it costs the UK if they do form an economic union.
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I think an economic union alone is what we wanted all along, without the rest of the trappings that soured some people’s views on our membership.

We may end up with exactly what we wanted, but as you say, at a price.
 
fcblackpool said:
my thinking is along those lines, but I'd stop at rejoining. I don't think that would happen, not for 15 years at least.

I can see an economic union between the EU and UK, but a limited political joining.

It will cost the UK if they don't and I'm certain the EU will make sure it costs the UK if they do form an economic union.
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Yes, I think 15 years is about right, maybe longer. As long as we don’t flip-flop between a Labour government and this extreme-right form of Conservative government. The EU would not know how far they could trust us in the long term, and would keep us at arm’s length as they are doing now. The economic damage is huge and may be unrepairable.
 
Levi501 said:
Imo, it’s a protest vote against years of Conservative mismanagement, what else could you put it down to? Also proves how naive and foolish voters have been to vote Johnson, the known liar and charlatan into power just to get “Brexit done” without thinking of the consequences on the domestic front.
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Voting has a minimum age condition, not a minimum IQ condition.
 
The reality is that whoever has controlled the Council, they have all failed the people of Blackpool over the last 50 years.
 
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tangerine_neil said:
If Labour get in at the next General Election, it won’t be just because of Brexit.
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Indeed the inaction at the beginning of Covid, Covid parties and denials of thereafter, PPE corruption, "Liz Truss", Matt Hancock copping off during Covid, multiple PMs, innumerate cabinet sackings and reshuffles due to corruption, the current PMs shady finances, complete collapse of the economy, failure to tax energy companies, lies over Police numbers and failing to look after the NHS or pay the public sector a fair wage.

These just off the top of my head. It's been pretty much catastrophic.
 
Macseasider said:
Indeed the inaction at the beginning of Covid, Covid parties and denials of thereafter, PPE corruption, "Liz Truss", Matt Hancock copping off during Covid, multiple PMs, innumerate cabinet sackings and reshuffles due to corruption, the current PMs shady finances, complete collapse of the economy, failure to tax energy companies, lies over Police numbers and failing to look after the NHS or pay the public sector a fair wage.

These just off the top of my head. It's been pretty much catastrophic.
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It’s not so much they are running the country, as lurching from one disaster to the next.

Not that I expect Labour to be any great shakes either.
 
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