JJpool
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Speculation grows over proposed new Talbot Gateway developments in town centre
The item about potential office development will be discussed behind closed doors

I dont get how that fits the thread?BBC News - 'Inferior' Chinese imports threatening Blackpool rock, makers say - BBC News
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'Inferior' Chinese imports threatening Blackpool rock, makers say
Manufacturers want Blackpool rock to get the same status as Stilton cheese and Cornish clotted cream.www.bbc.co.uk
It's happening in Blackpool and will hopefully boost the rock industry if they get protected statusI dont get how that fits the thread?
Dare I say, an oasis of culture in a desert of low brow 'entertainment'.Blackpool Grand Theatre awarded Arts Council funding for restoration work
They have been awarded £450,000 from Arts Council England’s Capital Investment Programme for restoration and repairs to the famous Grade 11* listed buildingwww.visitblackpool.com
Ballroom too, infact there's many hints at Blackpools grand past, no pun intended.Dare I say, an oasis of culture in a desert of low brow 'entertainment'.
Sorry, yes both main ballrooms, in fact.Ballroom too, infact there's many hints at Blackpools grand past, no pun intended.
Totally agree as I remember what it was like in the early 2000s and that was when we probably hit rock bottom. It is amazing what has been done in a relatively short space of time with more to come. BUT the biggest remaining problem which must be sorted is the crime rate. Visitors will not come if they don’t feel safe.On a broader note I was reading through what's changed since around 2007 ish and it really is night and day.
I think people take for granted just what has improved so far alone. Blackpool was on the brink of serious decline potentially with some regulars even questioning if they'd return. It still would have found a market, but was not looking well and had far more stag and hen do focus than now, where families mainly are the goal and the target.
I think it started with the front being done, a huge visual improvement to a tired looking area that now looks fantastic, the town centre was crap and is now good IMO, many buildings and projects so far, airport enterprise zone, more greenery etc etc, so the Blackpool of today is miles better than nearly 20 years ago.
Still much to do and ongoing or in the pipeline but once these projects come to life it'll be a similar result of a transformational change.
That doesn't mean there won't still be issues like everywhere or some boarded up failed businesses, as Blackpool is too big a resort not have some, but hopefully many of the known worst areas are significantly improved and overall it'll be far better again.
The vast majority do feel safe and are safe, although yes further investment in the inner areas will happen and try and improve conditions there, keep knocking down failed guesthouses or refurbishing into better homes for families and improve areas like that. Some of the crime rate is just from bigger numbers, the towns population can treble in the summer months.Totally agree as I remember what it was like in the early 2000s and that was when we probably hit rock bottom. It is amazing what has been done in a relatively short space of time with more to come. BUT the biggest remaining problem which must be sorted is the crime rate. Visitors will not come if they don’t feel safe.
I know and agree with all you say. It’s all about perception though. Only this week the main story in the Gazette was about someone being slashed in Dickson Road just behind some of the town’s most prestigious hotels.The vast majority do feel safe and are safe, although yes further investment in the inner areas will happen and try and improve conditions there, keep knocking down failed guesthouses or refurbishing into better homes for families and improve areas like that. Some of the crime rate is just from bigger numbers, the towns population can treble in the summer months.
But yes more needs to be done and is being done, but it's also a wider UK issue to crack down on.
Yeah need the government to get tough on crime and locally that inner investment to make an impact.I know and agree with all you say. It’s all about perception though. Only this week the main story in the Gazette was about someone being slashed in Dickson Road just behind some of the town’s most prestigious hotels.
I am Blackpool’s greatest advocate but still think more needs to be done on crime prevention and policing.
I agree improving the accommodation will help too.
It's been a while so I can't remember exactly what was said, but there was some sort of online discussion about it a while back, a Q&A and it had some information about the project that was interesting.I'm pretty sure if the car park is going so are the courtsI presume police station at the same time?
I am generally very upbeat regarding these improvements projects but I've always been really sceptical about this Central car park scheme. Doesnt seem to me that we have seen any money from the private developers yet.
Well all we can do is see, would be a pisstake if it didn't happen after all this.The phrase "very confident" reinforces my fears. We haven't seen anybody from the private sector provide funds yet. That article is almost 2 years old.
The new car park is a great improvement, demolishing the courts, old car park and police station is way overdue so a positive step in itself. Finding a purpose for the Edwards buildings seems a cheap option though, if there's major money involved why is it not started already?
I'm just not convinced the people behind this have got the ability to deliver.
Can't blame you. It's like something after nuclear fallout in the town centre.We have a place on Talbot rd, Promenade end, honestly it’s depressing.
Last season for us, we can’t take anymore of the people and surroundings.
Sorry to be negative but the quality of residents that live in our area is so bad I’ve lost any hope for the town.
As the chant goes, time to go.
Presumably not past the station then as that would be above a shop...We have a place on Talbot rd, Promenade end, honestly it’s depressing.
Last season for us, we can’t take anymore of the people and surroundings.
Sorry to be negative but the quality of residents that live in our area is so bad I’ve lost any hope for the town.
As the chant goes, time to go.
That’s the problem, they can spend millions on structural improvements, but if the low life’s are still there, it makes no difference, who wants to stay in a 5 star hotel and walk out to be confronted by drunk/drugged scumbags.We have a place on Talbot rd, Promenade end, honestly it’s depressing.
Last season for us, we can’t take anymore of the people and surroundings.
Sorry to be negative but the quality of residents that live in our area is so bad I’ve lost any hope for the town.
As the chant goes, time to go.
Which is why removing low quality housing is the number 1 priority.That’s the problem, they can spend millions on structural improvements, but if the low life’s are still there, it makes no difference, who wants to stay in a 5 star hotel and walk out to be confronted by drunk/drugged scumbags.
Yeah that won't happen, however under the revoe masterplan there is an area of greenery off central drive next to that pub that was knocked down. Although the plan is quite old now and some of it isn't going to happen, like houses on the old odeon site, given the new businesses there, can't see that becoming houses now.Which is why removing low quality housing is the number 1 priority.
Hopefully we see another swathe of housing removed and replaced by student accommodation surrounding the new university.
Dickson Road and central drive are obviously next, and in both instances you can see the major projects being used to seed this regeneration.
Much like Macseasider I'd love to see a horseshoe shaped inner park stretching from central drive around Talbot gateway and ending at dickson Road.
It would solve the Towns problems at a stroke. Unfortunately its very expensive and would only reduce the councils income.
You're an excellent poster about the Blackpool regeneration JJ. You are a go-to for good info. Such a pity that you're a Tory tosser.
I'm not a tory.You're an excellent poster about the Blackpool regeneration JJ. You are a go-to for good info. Such a pity that you're a Tory tosser.![]()
My profuse apologies...a Reformer, perhaps?I'm not a tory.
No someone with an open mind who hasn't got their tongue stuck up one political party's backside.My profuse apologies...a Reformer, perhaps?
I've voted many things before and also broadly supported the Labour council and it's plans.My profuse apologies...a Reformer, perhaps?
Please allow him to speak for himself.No someone with an open mind who hasn't got their tongue stuck up one political party's backside.![]()
I was joshing JJ. Of course your main thread is good. I know that.I've voted many things before and also broadly supported the Labour council and it's plans.
Let's not sidetrack the thread.
Thoughts about this inner housing regeneration?
This is what the town has needed.
As discussed before Blackpool is at the beginning of a 15-20 year plan that will transform large parts of those inner areas.
All the notorious ones.
Let's discuss what they plan to do...
"It adds the area has been chosen for redevelopment because of its deprivation, poor quality housing and lack of public open space.
The report says: "Blackpool’s most acute deprivation statistics are intrinsically linked to private housing failure in this inner urban area. Partners acknowledge that it is now time to bring forward regeneration and investment at scale to reverse the cycle of worsening outcomes."
Work to improve the housing stock could include a mixture of selective clearance, refurbishment, enforcement action and investment in energy efficiency improvements.
Documents say 1,860 households will be affected, with the council set to start public consultation later this year. It is likely compulsory purchase orders will be sought in order "to enable future redevelopment and subsequent demolition as appropriate."
So I'd suggest this is the area it means from what they've described excluding of course the foxhall village new housing and leisure park aka now Bloomfield central. Maybe the 1860 figure is because there's many houses of multiple occupancy?
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Yep the Labour council have done some very good things but your not allowed to say that if at some point you've ever voted Conservative.I've voted many things before and also broadly supported the Labour council and it's plans.
Why?Please allow him to speak for himself.
OK.Why?
It's a message board to air views you do when something you agree or disagree with.
Yes that's what we've been discussing in the posts above...