Blackpool Park Golf Club

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todayistheday

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See there are notices in the gerzette today,whats the latest. Is there any hope of saving or will it be a nine hole course.
 
Basically the council have pulled a fast one with the bidding process. Have wriggled out of being stopped what they're upto like an eel in a barrel of snot.

The only way this process can be possibly stopped is when all this comes to planning permission.

It comes down to two things.
1. If you want to keep what little green space there is left in Blackpool then please oppose the planning when it eventually becomes public knowledge.

2. If you don't mind a monstrosity of what will be liken to an aircraft hanger, with the felling of many trees to make way for the building. A further burden on the traffic around east park drive. Its basically another white elephant waiting to happen. Then just sit back and do nothing.

N.B.
This company have previous of offering projects like this and after fielding off complaints left, right and centre leave the land to go fallow, then reapply to build houses.
We have just had the worst floods in this country in a long time, building houses or any building tbh will cause havoc with the water levels around there.

People have the choice of it's got fuck all to do with me or to keep what little green space there is in the town.
 
The council should be ashamed, building a white elephant tramline for the tourists while selling off green space used by the locals.

Where's the traffic going? Where's the already saturated land going to drain? Are they going to fuck with Salisbury Woods as well? Who on the council is making money out of it? Follow that and expose, some of the tossers will be on to an earner.

Are the plans public ? Was there/will there be a consultation?

Bellends!
 
Are the plans public ? Was there/will there be a consultation?

The plans are not public as yet as I don't even think they've been drawn up.
Keep an eye on social media though as you should get to hear from there.
 
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poolseasider said:
But it needs to make money and shouldn't be propped up by the council.
It should stay but I haven't the answer.
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There were two other bidders in the process.
The members themselves and Ian Woosnam's brothers consortium.
The council hoodwinked the Woosnam bid that left the members and the company they've wanted in from the off.
There's an article in a golf magazine from a couple of years back that highlighted what Woosnam's brothers company did to a golf course that was worse off than the park.
They turned the course around to one of the best in the area and also erected lodges bringing extra money into the community.
That would have been ideal at Blackpool park, but then again non of the council could have greased their palms with a deal like that.
 
Id go with that poolseasider,shame it wasnt put to the members before this lloyd company. Not too fussy about open green space but think the current idea is a bad one. If anything,expansion of hospital because as it is,its not fit for purpose. Golf courses are not money making and need plenty spending on them,will they be still involved if it is to be a nine hole course.
 
It's Blackpool Council, the preferred bidder is always the one with the biggest envelopes.

It's lack of imagination by those at the top of public institutions these days, not making money? Flog it to the preferred bidder.
 
Top of my head
Ellsemere port
One in cheshire
One in Manchester

Not many,surprisingly the mackgolf courses in Ireland is still run by mackgolf. They were as bent as this council tbh.🤬
 
I met by way of a Birthday bash, one of the people heading up the council 'deliberations' on the course development. He wasn't remotely interested in any aspect of keeping the course, in fact, i got the distinct impression, they couldn't wait to get rid of it. We are talking about 'bean counters,nothing more ,nothing less.
 
53 good, we need bean counters when spending our money. It’s gone to tender today, the apathetic posts on here sum up people’s actual interest “can’t be bothered looking for facts, but feel qualified to pass comment”. It’s a bit like the recent public march and protest at the townhall, the 9 protesters looked pathetic in support.
 
So you're in the sit back and do nothing camp Josuah 👍
That's fair enough but cant fathom your thinking about the 'bean counters' who have basically wasted your money with many things from planting trees in the town centre that cost a bloody fortune to the magnificent tram line to nowhere that's now over budget and two years behind schedule.
The 'bean counters' only count the beans when its beneficial to them😏
 
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Wizzerboy said:
Top of my head
Ellsemere port
One in cheshire
One in Manchester

Not many,surprisingly the mackgolf courses in Ireland is still run by mackgolf. They were as bent as this council tbh.🤬
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Heaton Park in Manchester is a really tough challenge and probably a cut above most former municipals. It was temporarily run by another company and now shut. It is fortunate to be within the Park and so hilly it can’t be redeveloped. That’s the problem with Stanley Park...the council can see the money here. Stanley Park was designed by the same fella that designed Augusta National FFS! It should be cherished and preserved not reduced in size to a 9 hole also ran!
 
Wallop, it's a ** stupid place for a training ground and the work needed to get it to be able to do owt with it wouldn't be worth it.
Are you looking forward to paying another 4% on your council tax?
Bet not many on here have had a pay rise of anywhere near that over the last few years.
But at least itll be spent well 🤣🤣

BTW, the members and many other companies have tried to take the golf course off the councils bill but had been knocked back many times.
As a footnote ask the council about mackgolf and the deal they had with them!

Many things not adhered to with that contract but the council conveniently swept that under the carpet to save face.

Be very careful what you wish for when saying get rid of the course.
I understand that golf isn't everyone's cup of tea and that there a lot of golf courses on the fylde coast.
A lot of people cannot afford private golf club prices and this is the only 18 hole municipal course that provides the opportunity for these people to play.

There WILL be worse congestion on east park drive and the surrounding area if the new proposal goes ahead.
There WILL be worse flooding in an area that cant really cope with it now.

I hope none of your family have to get rushed to hospital when this new venture takes off, how would you feel if they passed away due to the ambulance not being able to get to the hospital in time due to the road network being clogged up around the hospital?
It's bad enough as it is we just can't afford to make it any worse.

But hey ho the council wont be paying for it.
YOU WILL
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
It's Blackpool Council, the preferred bidder is always the one with the biggest envelopes.

It's lack of imagination by those at the top of public institutions these days, not making money? Flog it to the preferred bidder.
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These Labour Councils are not to be trusted.
 
History suggests that regardless of the colour of their rosette Blackpool Council are at best useless. It was Tory throughout most of the 70s and 80s when the decline really took hold.
 
The decline might have taken hold of the town FY8 but it was far from that with the golf course.
In fact it was the money that the course made that propped up the zoo and the sandcastle until they were sold off.
If they'd looked after the course in later years then 100's of members wouldn't have left and 1000's of visitors wouldn't have stopped visiting.
Unfortunately cutting costs hit hard, we have fewer police on the beat, the towns roads are a nightmare, along with other things the golf course was well down the list of priorities and rightly so.

IF the council had followed through with making tenants adhere to agreements the course would not be in the state it's now in.
Many companies have promised the earth in the past and have given nothing only taken profits galore from the course. Why the council never followed this up ? You'd have to ask them😞

I do have a vested interest in the golf course, I've been a member nearly 30 years and I love it there.
My gripe with this whole situation is the underhand way the council have sneaked this process through and the fact that they haven't even considered the repercussions.

Losing more green space in the town.
Going totally AGAINST the councils local green & blue strategy (please ask to see it if you go to the town hall)
Worse traffic congestion.
I could go on but if I haven't made the point clear to everyone by now I never will 😁

As a footnote, in the 1980's Blackpool park golf course was the 2nd most played municipal course in the country.
The council certainly knew how to kill the goose that laid the golden egg😭
 
Plumbs and Lytham

I spoke in jest when I posted.

Saying that, there is no doubt that the Blackpool councils have failed over the years under both red or blue.

That doesn't mean that the tories can be blamed for the current admin.

As Lytham suggests, I am sure plenty have had their hands in the till over the years but again that doesn't mean that the current lot are dishonest as well as incompetent.
 
Wizzerboy said:
The decline might have taken hold of the town FY8 but it was far from that with the golf course.
In fact it was the money that the course made that propped up the zoo and the sandcastle until they were sold off.
If they'd looked after the course in later years then 100's of members wouldn't have left and 1000's of visitors wouldn't have stopped visiting.
Unfortunately cutting costs hit hard, we have fewer police on the beat, the towns roads are a nightmare, along with other things the golf course was well down the list of priorities and rightly so.

IF the council had followed through with making tenants adhere to agreements the course would not be in the state it's now in.
Many companies have promised the earth in the past and have given nothing only taken profits galore from the course. Why the council never followed this up ? You'd have to ask them😞

I do have a vested interest in the golf course, I've been a member nearly 30 years and I love it there.
My gripe with this whole situation is the underhand way the council have sneaked this process through and the fact that they haven't even considered the repercussions.

Losing more green space in the town.
Going totally AGAINST the councils local green & blue strategy (please ask to see it if you go to the town hall)
Worse traffic congestion.
I could go on but if I haven't made the point clear to everyone by now I never will 😁

As a footnote, in the 1980's Blackpool park golf course was the 2nd most played municipal course in the country.
The council certainly knew how to kill the goose that laid the golden egg😭
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Just to add to Wizzers post the year the Park was declared 2nd busiest municiple course, I believe that 97000 rounds were played .
 
Think you maybe telling porkies there Fatboy, St Andrews Old course,under 50,000 rounds per year and that place is rather busy.
 
TITD, not porkies mate.
Old course have a starter and ballot for playing positions, all regulated.
At the park, you booked a time, say 9.00am knowing full well that you wouldn't be teeing off til 9.45!!! 5 n half hour rounds were the norm it was that packed.
98% of tee times were 4 balls too
Friday, Saturday, Sunday were busier than east park drive at rush hour!😁
The money was pouring in in the 70's and 80's where did it go🤔
 
They were out in all weathers and busy really early in the morning. We always used to go out as a four and tons of others around us did to.
 
Totally agree with whizzer on this one..... Not a fan of the course but the popularity in 80s and 90s is right..... During the summer they usd to queue up from day break to get a knock in
 
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