Blackpool v Coventry City Official Matchnight Thread 17.08.21

** he’ll we’ve only played 3 games & we were in all of them despite being under the cosh. Talk about being impatient. Last season should act as a reminder, as to how these new players need time to bed in & actually be involved. If after 10 games we’re rooted to the bottom I’ll start to worry. Cut some slack. 🙄
 
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Strange reading all of this nostalgia for Embleton. Last season everyone was wondering what Critch was thinking putting him into the starting 11 against Oxford in the playoffs. He was too inconsistent, why would we play him over Demi, etc. And now, after 3 disappointing matches, the problem is diagnosed as us having too many League 1 standard players who aren't up for this level and so the answer is... Embleton?
 
Sooty59 said:
** he’ll we’ve only played 2 games & we were in both of them despite being under the cosh. Talk about being impatient. Last season should act as a reminder, as to how these new players need time to bed in & actually be involved. If after 10 games we’re rooted to the bottom I’ll start to worry. Cut some slack. 🙄
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3 games
 
PoolWarrior said:
One noticeable difference from League one is sides reluctance to put the entire team back for a corner or set piece. Coventry leaving two men up and putting us under pressure if we lose possession and also we have to decide who to leave back to mark their players .. very effective.
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Made the same point to my lad during the game. Leaving 2 up means we leave at least 2 back consequently fewer players to defend for the corner, and when the ball is cleared from the corner the6 can be quick on the break.
 
Sooty59 said:
** he’ll we’ve only played 2 games & we were in both of them despite being under the cosh. Talk about being impatient. Last season should act as a reminder, as to how these new players need time to bed in & actually be involved. If after 10 games we’re rooted to the bottom I’ll start to worry. Cut some slack. 🙄
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3 games Sooty.
 
seasidelytham said:
We had 12 shots - 4 shots on target - Coventry had 19 with 5 on target. So based on your logic we too could have scored double figures
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We could have scored 4 or 5, it was a wide open game. They had a lot more good chances than us though and were deserved winners.
 
20togo said:
lost the game in midfield tonight. Won't complain about when they had the ball but when our back fout had it James but moreso Ward did not show for the ball at all. Ward was pretty awful imo. Anderson very poor too Bowler had a very good game. Seen a replay of their goal and yep it smacked him in the face where it seemed it was handball. That said I thought it was offside.
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Agree with most of that but not Ward who had a good game on Saturday and was far from our worst player tonight.Hopfully Lavery will continue to get in good positions but be a bit more clinical.Yates was virtually invisible.
 
johnnyb said:
Made the same point to my lad during the game. Leaving 2 up means we leave at least 2 back consequently fewer players to defend for the corner, and when the ball is cleared from the corner the6 can be quick on the break.
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It has annoyed me for a while that we bring everyone back for set pieces and when we clear it, the ball comes straight back. At least leave Lavery up there...
 
TangerinePeel said:
As if some people haven't learnt their lesson not to completely write off a side after so little time
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League 1 is totally different though.
Ive watched Cardiff and now Coventry out whit us in both games.
Yes, the effort and endeavor was there In the second half tonight but both opponents showed that you have to make quicker decisions on the ball in this league.
However only having 2 in midfield and being overrun doesn't bode well.
We are crying out for Stewart to get fit as quick as he can but fear he could be rushed back and do more harm than good.
Please Critch play two central defenders that can actually do the job and dont leave Keshi on the left where he is totally ineffective.
Jerry's confidence looks shot to shit and Ward, yet again ran around like a headless chicken for most of the night.
We need quality loan signings in asap who can hit the ground running.
Dont expect owt from Bournemouth and Millwall but hope I'm proven wrong so I'll wait until the end of October before I get really worried.
 
Wizzerboy said:
League 1 is totally different though.
Ive watched Cardiff and now Coventry out whit us in both games.
Yes, the effort and endeavor was there In the second half tonight but both opponents showed that you have to make quicker decisions on the ball in this league.
However only having 2 in midfield and being overrun doesn't bode well.
We are crying out for Stewart to get fit as quick as he can but fear he could be rushed back and do more harm than good.
Please Critch play two central defenders that can actually do the job and dont leave Keshi on the left where he is totally ineffective.
Jerry's confidence looks shot to shit and Ward, yet again ran around like a headless chicken for most of the night.
We need quality loan signings in asap who can hit the ground running.
Dont expect owt from Bournemouth and Millwall but hope I'm proven wrong so I'll wait until the end of October before I get really worried.
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Ward did improve as the game went on.
 
Wizzerboy said:
League 1 is totally different though.
Ive watched Cardiff and now Coventry out whit us in both games.
Yes, the effort and endeavor was there In the second half tonight but both opponents showed that you have to make quicker decisions on the ball in this league.
However only having 2 in midfield and being overrun doesn't bode well.
We are crying out for Stewart to get fit as quick as he can but fear he could be rushed back and do more harm than good.
Please Critch play two central defenders that can actually do the job and dont leave Keshi on the left where he is totally ineffective.
Jerry's confidence looks shot to shit and Ward, yet again ran around like a headless chicken for most of the night.
We need quality loan signings in asap who can hit the ground running.
Dont expect owt from Bournemouth and Millwall but hope I'm proven wrong so I'll wait until the end of October before I get really worried.
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I’m going to worry now, if you don’t mind, then you take over in October and I’ll have a couple of weeks off.😂😂
 
I thought keogh looked alright in the previous 2 games and I’ve defended him but tonight he was shambolic. I’m a big Garbutt fan but he looked way off it tonight and hasn’t been great in the previous games. If James is good enough to start at cm at this level so am I!
 
coloradoan said:
Strange reading all of this nostalgia for Embleton. Last season everyone was wondering what Critch was thinking putting him into the starting 11 against Oxford in the playoffs. He was too inconsistent, why would we play him over Demi, etc. And now, after 3 disappointing matches, the problem is diagnosed as us having too many League 1 standard players who aren't up for this level and so the answer is... Embleton?
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The facts are that Turton, Gabriel, Ballard, Embleton, Kaikai and Simms haven't been replaced with players of similar / better quality.
 
right....My take on it...First Half until they scored...it looked like 2 poor teams going at it...we gifted them lots of possession because we didnt match up with their wing backs and we dont have a ball carrying central creative midfielder....Ward and James where afraid to collect the ball like it was a hot potato...James is out of his depth in central midfield....The encouraging thing is we did make a few clear cut chances...but you cant afford to miss them at this level.
Second half was very similar again with good chances going begging.
I see on this thread that Keogh and Husband have come in for some stick but for me Connolly and Garbutt had very poor games as fullbacks...maybe Garbutts worst game Ive seen in tangerine.
What I cant understand is why he doesnt give Carey a chance...he cant do no worse than we have seen in central midfield. Its a shame Lavery got booked so early because I think it stifled his game because he is a an aggresive player. Sending John Jules and CJ looked more on hope than an anything.
Its a Shame theres no Madine upfront because Bowler looked up for second half but no target man to aim for. I think 1 or 2 new recruits need to come but not freebies plucked from the Northern Premier league..if you get the drift. Anyway..its not all doom and gloom and as soon as we can get an early goal...Im sure confidence will come back.All IMO of course.

UTMP
 
Back to banging my Kai Kai drum, he'd walk into this team. Which makes me think, we didn't or havn't yet (hopefully) brought in all the players we want
 
Not got time to read back so don’t know if any of these have been mentioned already.

Their number 38 pretty much ran the game. He played in the sort of positions the Stewart was picking up last season.

We had no attacking treat down our left which allowed their winger (Dabo) to basically stay up front and wait for the ball in space.

The first touch and passing was shocking at times.

We are far too ‘nice’. No shithousery in standing in front of quick free kicks, sneaky shirt pulls etc that other teams seem to do. If we had scored that goal tonight against Cardiff on Saturday all 11 of their players would have been around the referee, I think I saw 3 of ours questioning the decision.
 
CalderwoodCritchleyWon’t said:
He wouldn’t and he’d go missing in this league even more than in L1.
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I beg to differ, he is never a left sided midfield player while he's got a hole in his 'arris. But we continually played him there, when we played him in the middle, behind the front two, totally different player. Unfortunately NC played him there as often as Haley's Comet passes.
Thinking more and more it was a monetary decision.
 
20togo said:
lost the game in midfield tonight. Won't complain about when they had the ball but when our back fout had it James but moreso Ward did not show for the ball at all. Ward was pretty awful imo. Anderson very poor too Bowler had a very good game. Seen a replay of their goal and yep it smacked him in the face where it seemed it was handball. That said I thought it was offside.
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Agree the game was lost in midfield ( akin Bristol City and Cardiff). Don’t agree about Ward though - he”s been brilliant in the first games of this season and will only get better! Ward didn’t show first half because of what he was instructed to do pre-match which didn’t match how the first half panned out. He and James had no chance against the way Coventry set up in the first half. Second half Ward was more influential – looked quality and grew into the game!
 
I’ll start with Keogh, he dropped down to L1 and players simply don’t then become Championship standard again, at that age. He was a very poor signing, considering we got rid of Thornily.

Thought Husband had a very good game, considering the pairing with Keogh.

Garbutt was poor again, slow in possession. By some distance Husband is our best LB, but then he’s needed elsewhere. The answer may be James at LB, because he’s definitely not a midfield player.

Connolly, really like his effort and work rate, but we need a Gabriel in there.

Bowler, excellent, better end product tonight.

Lavery, perhaps more a poacher than when given time, but great game and it will come for him.

Yates will get stick, but we lost our way completely when he went off. Even playing poorly, he gives us so much.

John-Jules, I don’t think he’s ready for this, and I don’t think the way we play will develop him. In comparison to say Simms, he’s far less developed.

Ward, carried the midfield. In the circumstances Keshi might have been a better option in the middle, with CJ wide left.

All in all, we should have taken at least a point. They were no better really, and we could have scored 4. That was my yardstick, as they are not yet an established Championship team. It tells me we must strengthen this window.

Finally, Marv has to be given a chance, a long run in the team.
 
rememberlesshannon said:
I beg to differ, he is never a left sided midfield player while he's got a hole in his 'arris. But we continually played him there, when we played him in the middle, behind the front two, totally different player. Unfortunately NC played him there as often as Haley's Comet passes.
Thinking more and more it was a monetary decision.
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It absolutely wasn’t a monetary decision. It was down to football reasons purely and simply. I liked him but he never produced on a regular basis for me.
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
I’ll start with Keogh, he dropped down to L1 and players simply don’t then become Championship standard again, at that age. He was a very poor signing, considering we got rid of Thornily.

Thought Husband had a very good game, considering the pairing with Keogh.

Garbutt was poor again, slow in possession. By some distance Husband is our best LB, but then he’s needed elsewhere. The answer may be James at LB, because he’s definitely not a midfield player.

Connolly, really like his effort and work rate, but we need a Gabriel in there.

Bowler, excellent, better end product tonight.

Lavery, perhaps more a poacher than when given time, but great game and it will come for him.

Yates will get stick, but we lost our way completely when he went off. Even playing poorly, he gives us so much.

John-Jules, I don’t think he’s ready for this, and I don’t think the way we play will develop him. In comparison to say Simms, he’s far less developed.

Ward, carried the midfield. In the circumstances Keshi might have been a better option in the middle, with CJ wide left.

All in all, we should have taken at least a point. They were no better really, and we could have scored 4. That was my yardstick, as they are not yet an established Championship team. It tells me we must strengthen this window.

Finally, Marv has to be given a chance, a long run in the team.
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Lost our way when Yates went off? I swear I must have been watching a different game
 
Memphisboy said:
Lost our way when Yates went off? I swear I must have been watching a different game
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And there you are….

I’ll stick with my judgement over yours on Jerry. If you did watch the game again, when he went off, we became very disjointed up front and Lavery was less effective. John-Jules is nowhere near this level at present.

No point taking Jerry off, if you can’t replace him with someone who can do better, even if he was having a relatively poor match.
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
And there you are….

I’ll stick with my judgement over yours on Jerry. If you did watch the game again, when he went off, we became very disjointed up front and Lavery was less effective. John-Jules is nowhere near this level at present.

No point taking Jerry off, if you can’t replace him with someone who can do better, even if he was having a relatively poor match.
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I predicted to my son before the season started that Yates would struggle at this level.Nothing that we have seen so far gives me any reason to change my mind.
 
Our players not quick enough physically or mentally. Willingness and desire is there but control of the football is sub-standard for the Championship. Why can opposition players bring down and control a ball.. then find a pass but ours can't? Answer: because they are better players. Too many of ours not up to this level on current showing. Lots of people on here moaning about the defence..but for me it is midfield where the main problems lie. Ward and James are a weak pairing in the middle..Bowler ok but Anderson not good enough..neither is CJ in my opinion..he may have pace but you need control in this league and his 1st touch is more League1/2. Did at least create more chances tonight. Hoping for some more quality coming in before the deadline to change things otherwise its going to be a long hard season.
 
To be fair to Jerry most of our big chances were created when we had two strikers on.
We did seem to go off the boil when the subs came on
 
gjr69 said:
Not my sort of football 2020 but they are totally at liberty to play that way. I agree with you in so far as they deserved the win because they were better at their type of football than we were at ours. We need to learn, improve and probably need 3 players better than anything we currently have.
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gjr69

I'm not sure it's anybodys type of football but all about winning.

I'm just in now and see they drew at Peterborough tonight, not the worse result but maybe I'd better stop blowing smoke up their @rses until they've beaten somebody other than us.

I have the benefit of commenting after tonights game but I can't argue with your assessment of us that I'm thinking you made before kick off.
 
mrjammers said:
We look way off the pace at this level. All three teams we’ve faced look to have more energy and guile - especially in midfield areas! The season we went up to PL we had Adam, Southern and Vaughan – of the current squad, Grant Ward is the only one close to these three. From the games I’ve seen (Bristol City, Cardiff and Coventry), the games were dominated by strong midfield players - especially the latter two. Against Bristol City we came up against the experienced pairing of King and James.

Cardiff had Pack and Ralls. Coventry tonight had four good midfielders in Sheaf, Hamer, O’Hare and Allen. With our formation, we should have controlled the game but their energy and quality on the ball gave the advantage to them. Kevin Stewart and Kenny Dougall are good players but not sure they are up to a 46 game season at this level.

Connolly will prove to be a good acquisition, as will Richard Keogh. James Husband looks comfortable as LH CB and has been quality so far. Chris Maxwell looks like he could eclipse his terrific performances last season, especially with Dan Grimshaw waiting in the wings.

Keshi Anderson puts a good shift in and has undoubted ability and Reece James has done whatever has been asked of him competently.

Up front, Shayne Lavery and Jerry Yates look to have already built an understanding. Gary Madine’s return will be interesting as he offers a very different threat to Championship defences – his awareness, goal scoring and general experience could be key.

Think Shayne Lavery will be a key player this season snd will score a few goals. Really need a central midfield playmaker though!
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You sound like you've gone bonkers matey!
 
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