Carey

I'm not a fan of his so take what I say however you wish.
For me he's never awful and he wasn't bad today either, he just doesn't really contribute anything. He floats about on the periphery of the game with a few nice touches here and there but without really ever taking hold of a game. If he could just assert himself into a game there is a player in there but he just never does and I think it's got to the stage where he has had long enough to show it. Because of that I think he should be a squad player or moved on and we should bring in another CM. I've nout against the lad but I just don't see him as a starter. Having said all that, nobody else has grabbed that place either so for me there is still 1 space available in CM for someone alongside Norburn and then also Dougall (who I thought was excellent today)
 
Critchknows said:
I'm not a fan of his so take what I say however you wish.
For me he's never awful and he wasn't bad today either, he just doesn't really contribute anything. He floats about on the periphery of the game with a few nice touches here and there but without really ever taking hold of a game. If he could just assert himself into a game there is a player in there but he just never does and I think it's got to the stage where he has had long enough to show it. Because of that I think he should be a squad player or moved on and we should bring in another CM. I've nout against the lad but I just don't see him as a starter. Having said all that, nobody else has grabbed that place either so for me there is still 1 space available in CM for someone alongside Norburn and then also Dougall (who I thought was excellent today)
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Weir, Morgan and Dembele competing for the Carey position. I'd give it to Dembele and Dougall was very good today.
 
tangysider said:
Not long ago CJ was vilified as not even being a footballer. Carey will continue to improve but needs game time for that to happen.
Hubbie when asked which player could play at highest level said Carey could make it all the way to the Prem, so obviously they see something in him
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Hamilton just needs to be used in the right way, he has always had attributes that will make him a good player.
Husband saying Carey could make it all the way to the Prem means nothing, I like Husband in the position he is playing this season and he has always seemed like a good pro but the Carey comment should be taken with a sack of salt.
 
BFCSouthStand said:
I'm inclined to disagree a little. His work rate is excellent and his level of involvement today was very good. I know he makes errors but he's learning all the time and it's sometimes easy to forget how young he really is.
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He's 23 in January. Not young for a footballer these days, entering his prime and needs to up his game or he won't last at this level.
 
Eternaloptimist said:
It’s a team game and Carey played his part.
But typical of some on here even though we win 3 - 0 they still have to look for someone to slag off
I can only assume you focus solely on Carey just so you can highlight every single mistake.
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To be honest, I don't often slag players, but that game absolutely bypassed him. He didn't look to play forward, didn't dribble, passed woefully, and never looked like making a tackle. If Virtue was fit he wouldn't be starting.
 
Adds nothing always arrives a second after the play has moved on, no attacking drive or physicality but I think there is a player in there. It's not going to happen for him at bloomers but would not be surprised if /when he moves on he shines at his next club.
 
Critchknows said:
I'm not a fan of his so take what I say however you wish.
For me he's never awful and he wasn't bad today either, he just doesn't really contribute anything. He floats about on the periphery of the game with a few nice touches here and there but without really ever taking hold of a game. If he could just assert himself into a game there is a player in there but he just never does and I think it's got to the stage where he has had long enough to show it. Because of that I think he should be a squad player or moved on and we should bring in another CM. I've nout against the lad but I just don't see him as a starter. Having said all that, nobody else has grabbed that place either so for me there is still 1 space available in CM for someone alongside Norburn and then also Dougall (who I thought was excellent today)
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I have to agree. I, along with many others, expected him to become a stand out player this season but it just isn't happening yet. It's early days and the team are still not firing on all cylinders so I'm not going to write him off just yet but I feel he does need to impose himself on games much more or we'll end up leaving him behind.
 
tangysider said:
Not long ago CJ was vilified as not even being a footballer. Carey will continue to improve but needs game time for that to happen.
Hubbie when asked which player could play at highest level said Carey could make it all the way to the Prem, so obviously they see something in him
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Appleton also said that Dom Thompson would make millions for the club. That proves one opinion doesn’t make it so.
 
Loco said:
He passed it to a teammate who had a speculative shot.
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Correct. I’ve watched every game he,s played and just can’t see his contribution. Today 2 attempted shots both weak, has an annoying habit of passing backwards when we are going forwards. Can’t or won’t tackle. Waves his arms around and points all the time completely aimlessly and worst of all runs away from any action..
Surely he has had his chance. Unless he starts getting stuck in and contributing use him as a last 5 min sub.
 
He takes part in the game rather than influencing the game for me.
He didn’t have a bad or good game yesterday but was definitely going to be the first player to be replaced.
I do believe there’s a player in there, but too many times he goes missing from games or the game passes him by.
As others have said though that position he plays, no-one has made a claim for owning it yet. Him, Morgan or Weir, maybe Virtue if ever fit?
 
Hooleys said:
He takes part in the game rather than influencing the game for me.
He didn’t have a bad or good game yesterday but was definitely going to be the first player to be replaced.
I do believe there’s a player in there, but too many times he goes missing from games or the game passes him by.
As others have said though that position he plays, no-one has made a claim for owning it yet. Him, Morgan or Weir, maybe Virtue if ever fit?
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Was it not Carey’s excellent run retention of possession in a dangerous area and subsequent pass that set up Dale for his goal ?

Oh no sorry, my bad…

We’re supposed to describe the goal as a “speculative shot” , because Carey got the assist.🙄
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Was it not Carey’s excellent run retention of possession in a dangerous area and subsequent pass that set up Dale for his goal ?

Oh no sorry, my bad…

We’re supposed to describe the goal as a “speculative shot” , because Carey got the assist.🙄
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The speculative shot wasn’t my comment so don’t associate it with me😜.
Out of the eleven players on the pitch yesterday I thought he probably contributed the least and presumably so did the manager as he replaced him first.
Personally yesterday, like I said previously I didn’t think he had a good game or a bad game yesterday, generally I don’t think he influences the game enough, that’s not dismissing his role in the assist, just my assessment of his overall play this season, but like I said previously no-one else has staked a claim for that position either.
 
I am not a big fan and I don't see what he contributes , but I feel there is nothing gained by having a go after a good win and not only Critchley [who I still have my doubts] ,but the previous managers kept playing him . Are they all wrong?
 
Carey clearly has a ability and did create the 2nd goal but that aside he was poor. Simple passes going astray, large periods of the game passing him by and doesn't really stand out at all. Maybe it's a confidence thing but he really does need to wake up or he'll be missing a great opportunity. I'm not a massive fan of Albie Morgan either but do think Weir or Dembele would be a better option.
 
Insider said:
I'm not going to slag off any player from a 3-0 winning squad and very strangely FotMob scored him 7.6 to King Kenny's 7.4. (My MOM).
I don't disagree with the criticism and I'll just say on current form he's fortunate to be getting a start.
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I agree with that and particularly that Dougall was MOM.
 
Albert Ross said:
Appleton also said that Dom Thompson would make millions for the club. That proves one opinion doesn’t make it so.
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True but Hubbie comes across as someone who knows the game and what is required.
I am not writing Thompson off either, he needs to cut out the silly bookings and mistakes but still believe he has potential to become a regular starter
 
1953forever said:
Carey passes sidewards and back words today he was the poorest pool player
Needs to try to influence a game more and not always pick the easy option.
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He's in the team to provide the bit of magic that opens up defences, I don't see him doing it.
If a goalkeeper, centre back or centreforward was as ineffective they would be dropped, Carey is hiding in the gray area that comes with playing in that role. He isnt directly responsible for anything so as long as he doesn't mess up massively and the team picks up points he keeps getting picked.
I think it's time to give Dembele a go in that position.
 
thought he had quite a good game yesterday, drove the ball forward when he could, chased down through balls when they were put in the right place and sometimes when they weren't, got into decent positions in the box as he always does, with a bit more luck he might already have 3 or 4 goals this season.

on pain of being very repetitive, hes played in the wrong position, he needs to be more central and in a more advanced position. i think its similar to paul scholes for england, for manure he was imperious, Zidan thought he was one of the best in the world, but under England coaches who tended to be defensively minded and want to play rigid systems he always got stuck out on the left to accommodate both Gerard and Lampard (who didnt work well together anyway) where he was much less effective. Im not saying Carey is Paul scholes but i do think there are similarities.

Playing the flat three across the middle means with Norburn in the middle the other two do get forced a bit wide, Dougall manages the position better by staying more central, but carey who is i think expected to be something of a creative force ends up in a bit of a no mans land. I think there is the same with albi morgan, and if dembele was played there it would reveal a similar problem. Weir tends to play that role a bit better and that role in a flat middle three suits Virtue very well.

I dont think hes played badly when he has played but like many trying to fit into a rigid system its not doing him any favours, can he adapt to the point where he can control a game.

If critchley plays carey or dembele or albi morgan they need a more free role in a more advanced position behind the strikers. It could be that it is something that he is working towards by making sure that carey et al understand their defensive responsibilities when out of possession.

i could of course be talking absolute shisser though.
 
Carey is worth persisting with. He’s a player. It’s clear to see he’s not brimming with confidence but it’ll only take a goal like Dale scored yesterday and his form could drastically turn.
 
tangysider said:
True but Hubbie comes across as someone who knows the game and what is required.
I am not writing Thompson off either, he needs to cut out the silly bookings and mistakes but still believe he has potential to become a regular starter
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I like Thomsons effort and enthusiasm, cut out the mistakes and he will be more than useful, but in nobody’s world will he be worth millions. Neither will Carey, he doesn’t have the effort or enthusiasm. He seems quite content to just plod along on the periphery and make the occasional contribution.
 
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