Casey gone

Good move. He will play at a good standard and we already have four other centre halves plus Connolly
- EDIT FIVE - I can't count. Forgot our long throw specialist.
 
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Hmmm strange, I didn't see this happening to be honest, thought he looked all over the place against QPR, however appeared to have come on somewhat against Barnsley where he scored, however that was Barnsley who were dire last year.

Given we paid in the region of £1 M for him (allegedly) I thought he'd have seen a fair bit of action, however at 22 he needs to play games now and maybe MA has told him he's likely to be back up this year. Thorniley cannot leave now unless we bring in two centre backs.

Interesting where this leaves Tharme, who is actually a year older that Casey, always thought Tharme was a centre back tbh but he played RB against Southport so perhaps he's backing up JG this season.
 
He’s probably 5th choice (behind Marv, MUR, Hubby, Thorniley) although I’d argue Connelly too might be an option

Makes sense at this stage of the season with few defensive injuries at CB and the kid needing way more games.

One more space in the 25

Think Thame will go out too - hopefully at Div 2 team not non league again
 
....and the juggle to gain some space for a couple of new signings in the 25 man squad begins.

I think the loan will do him good and give him some game time. Imagine all those lentil burgers he'll get through 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
 
Lost Seasider said:
Where do you get that figure from? I was under the impression the fee was closer to £100k.

Possibly add-ons might push it up towards £1m.
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Tbh I might be wide of the mark, I seem to remember a trusted poster on here at the time of his signing mentioning it was around a million. Could be bollocks but he had two years left on his contract at Leeds plus an add on year so might not be too far wide of the mark.
 
Thatseasider said:
Tbh I might be wide of the mark, I seem to remember a trusted poster on here at the time of his signing mentioning it was around a million. Could be bollocks but he had two years left on his contract at Leeds plus an add on year so might not be too far wide of the mark.
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It was a low initial figure but it went up with appearances, Internationals that sort of thing so it was potentially up to a million but I doubt he has budged from the initial price yet.

I agree with Middxile, I would think Thorniley is well back in favour, I have no idea why Quitchley didn't seem to rate him, he's certainly Championship standard. Get him contract extension if Apper's rates him. Otherwise if he is off too then we need a new centre half in.
 
Thatseasider said:
Tbh I might be wide of the mark, I seem to remember a trusted poster on here at the time of his signing mentioning it was around a million. Could be bollocks but he had two years left on his contract at Leeds plus an add on year so might not be too far wide of the mark.
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I don't think the club is likely to spend that sort of money on an unproven 20 y/o CB, but an add-on heavy deal might push it towards that level if we were to win the Premier League.
 
I was hoping Olly would make the Championship grade this season but obviously MA knows how best to manage his career.
Good luck Olly, you're joining a well run, ethical club, who play good football. Work hard, stay fit and force them to select you every week, so that you'll come back to us ready to play in the Championship the next season (yes we will be a Championship team in 2023/24) 🍊 🧡
 
Hoping he has a really good season but the rest of them play crap and the club get back to back relegations, or better still, go out of business. Bunch of sodding hypocrites, pushing the Vegan agenda but quietly letting the players sneak out and stuff their faces with Greggs pasties
 
He looked very poor against Peterborough (didn't they all), but I'd be a bit worried if he was first choice this season if I'm honest. If we don't sign anyone else, then it has to be Keogh and Marv as first choice, with Thorniley and Connolly providing cover.
 
Good move for us, and him. He's not quite there yet. He needs a full season as the main man in a defence in a decent league. Hopefully he'll get 30+ games under his belt and come back fitter, stronger and match ready for his breakthrough season with us.
 
I suppose the question is where does Tharme fit into the squad?

I don't think it's safe to go with just Marv/Keogh/JT with Connolly/Husband as back up since those two might be needed elsewhere, so either Tharme is here to play, or the club has someone else lined up for the season.
 
Lost Seasider said:
I suppose the question is where does Tharme fit into the squad?

I don't think it's safe to go with just Marv/Keogh/JT with Connolly/Husband as back up since those two might be needed elsewhere, so either Tharme is here to play, or the club has someone else lined up for the season.
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Probably just a cheap punt off a tip off to see if he can adapt/how quickly he can adapt, and if he has more to his game than a long throw.

Kind of thing you'd do in league one or two really. Like pushing on and signing Olly Casey anyway after promotion.
 
poolfc said:
Probably just a cheap punt off a tip off to see if he can adapt/how quickly he can adapt, and if he has more to his game than a long throw.

Kind of thing you'd do in league one or two really. Like pushing on and signing Olly Casey anyway after promotion.
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The same could be said about Sonny Carey.
 
Staggered at this tbh. Didn’t we pay £1m for him? It’s little wonder we say this year we haven’t got any money - we’re not even giving a chance to those who we have forked out for.
 
Lost Seasider said:
The same could be said about Sonny Carey.
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Yep. Luton were linked with him and we were linked with Allan Campbell at the same time. That got flipped around somewhere along the line and they got a midfield starter in and got to the play offs. And we got someone who Critchley couldn't find a role for either side of breaking his foot on Boxing Day when he had to try and cover at centre mid as it was an obvious squad gap all season. Threw up more questions than answers.
 
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Not sure I agree with this one with Keogh’s dodgy hamstrings.
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Think it's more calf muscles than hamstrings he has a problem with. Looked like he'd got pushed a bit too much second half of last season. Certainly that Cov away game you could tell they'd got the order of starters wrong after they called back Thorniley and let Gretarsson go. Critchley only seemed willing to use Casey as last pick rather than any sort of master development plan to me.

Get now why he tried to find ways around things with bringing Keogh in, even though he looked like he was paying us at the start. The likes of Connolly & James offering more than one position squad cover on a budget as well. No resale value in it but 2-3 for the price of 1 and it helps keep you in a job.
 
Thatseasider said:
Hmmm strange, I didn't see this happening to be honest, thought he looked all over the place against QPR, however appeared to have come on somewhat against Barnsley where he scored, however that was Barnsley who were dire last year.

Given we paid in the region of £1 M for him (allegedly) I thought he'd have seen a fair bit of action, however at 22 he needs to play games now and maybe MA has told him he's likely to be back up this year. Thorniley cannot leave now unless we bring in two centre backs.

Interesting where this leaves Tharme, who is actually a year older that Casey, always thought Tharme was a centre back tbh but he played RB against Southport so perhaps he's backing up JG this season.
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And your course as regards the fee?
 
hertfordseasider said:
It was a low initial figure but it went up with appearances, Internationals that sort of thing so it was potentially up to a million but I doubt he has budged from the initial price yet.

I agree with Middxile, I would think Thorniley is well back in favour, I have no idea why Quitchley didn't seem to rate him, he's certainly Championship standard. Get him contract extension if Apper's rates him. Otherwise if he is off too then we need a new centre half in.
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I’m not a big fan of Thorniley either to be honest. He’s not bad by any means, but there were several times last season where he lost concentration which led to goals. The last QPR goal away was diabolical. Their player made such an obvious run into the box for the cross and Thorniley was too busy ball watching. Think he did a similar thing at Fulham away if I remember correctly, he was ball watching and let Mitrovich waltz past him.

For me he’s okay but I’d rather we not depend on him all season.
 
JT would be ideal LCB of three, he’s got a good long range pass in him.
In a back two however…

Lacks height and pace imo. 11 out of 10 for attitude and commitment tho.👍
 
Think Thorniley’s lack of pace was shown up more with Critch’s preference for a high line, which doesn’t seem to be Appleton’s choice. Seems to favour depth and the low block.

Might also blunt tge effectiveness of Grimshaw/Maxwell as sweeper-keepers…
 
I would have preferred him to stay, sounds to me like this could be a big part of his contract gone before he gets much of a chance to play for us, wouldn’t be a problem if we haven’t paid big money for him. When he returns for us next season how long left on his contract, remember we paid in the region of 1 million
 
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